3D (stereoscopic) vids of Fallout NV Gameplay

[jjk999]

I recently discovered that I could play Fallout NV (and FO3 and Oblivion) in red/cyan anaglyph 3d (thats the kind where you wear paper red/blue paper 3d specs) without buying an expensive monitor, latest greatest video card and expensive glasses.

 

I have a GeForce 9800GTX (or GTX +), The pc is vista with 2Ghz processor, 3GB ram, 32bit processing. So nothing mind blowing by this years standards. When going thru my Nvidia control panel I saw it had a section of stereoscopic controlls. I figured set up would do nothing as supposedly you need the latest greatest everything to get 3D. And you do for the kind of 3d you see in current movies. But on a whim I ran set up anyway. It took me to the Nvidia site where I was instructed which kind of set up I wanted. There was a choice for the high end version with xpensive new kinds of glasses. But next to it was the set up option for NVIDIA® 3D Vision™ Discover. The specs in the picture there were Red/Blue. I thought to myself - never mind what's in the box behind the specs - is the card I have good enough to handle 3D without adding whatever in in that box behind the Specs? So I contineud with set up and opened Fallout with stereoscopic view ennabled and with a pare of cheapo paper red cyan glasses on my head and...

 

BAZINGA!!! I was playing Fallout NV in 3d!!!

 

There are controlls you can access in game to adjust various aspecs of the 3D. You can turn it on or off and adjust how much the red and blue aspecs overlay, called parallax.

 

The colors are a bit muted. It is not necessary and Nvidia doesn't give you a choice to view it in full color like youtube does.

 

Before you ask: 3D screengrabs don't work. Screengrabs taken while playing in 3D seem to grab the image from some plane different from the plane the 3D transformation is acting on. Both regular screengrabs and screengrabs taken with Fraps were full color without red blue seperation.

 

HOWEVER: Fraps has a stereoscopic video record option. It only works if stereoscopic game play is ennabled and functioning. I tried Fraps stereographic capture with nvidia stereoscopic not ennabled to see if fraps will make any gameplay 3D. The result was a regular full color video file.

 

I next set Fraps Stereographic Video Capture to on and ennabled Nvidia Stereoscopic feature. The result was an avi that when played in regular video players looked like 2 whole videos playing next to each other.

 

I then played that video in Stereoscopic Player and BAZIMNGA II The Sequel- it was full 3d with depth!

 

HOWEVER!- I had to remap some keys. Pressing F9 starts and stops Fraps video recording AND starts FONV quickload. Same with Fraps screengrab and FONV quick save both being F8- and we all know what joys quick save/quick load have been. So either remap those buttons to ones you never touch or remember to press " ~ " before doing a Fraps video record.

 

Youtube has a new stereoscopic capability. You upload the dual video file, give it the correct tag and Youtube combines it into a red cyan anaglyph. 2 Youtube caveats:

1. You have to resize/stretch the video so Youtube will make it look correct and not squished on playback. The dual video file has the correct aspect ratio but the resulting 3d video doesn't when Youtube plays it.

2. You should use a simple video tool to make the file smaller. The 25 second clip I uploaded was 250 megs and took a long time to upload.

 

Here are some basic instructions on uploading 3d vids to youtube:

 

Getting Started: 3D Content

 

Here is the Very First (as far as I know) red/cyan anaglyph video of Fallout New Vegas gameplay:

 

 

I will be posting more vids to this thread as they are made and hope others do as well.

 

Also if you can figure out how to take a 3d screengrab that comes out please post how it was done.

 

Whoops! I am not the first to upload stereoscopic Fallout vids. Here are some more that are probably better. Upon viewing I can see that in the last 2 vids I post the makers didn't properly adjust Parallax so there is significant color ghosting and thus less 3d effect. The 3d effect looks better in game when parallax is set to quite low. I don't know if adjusting Parallax in game affects the Fraps stereoscopic capture yet.

 

This has the best parallax of these three.

 

Fallout New Vegas 3D gameplay Stereoscopic red -blue 3D Vision

 

Edited December 28, 2010 by jjk999

[MadMax08]

thats pretty awesome knowing the capability is there. i wish i had some 3d glasses to look at the video. otherwise it trips me out and i start feeling like i'm going cross-eyed haha

[frank lee]

Y'know easily half My favorite movies are in black&white, and Mono sound, and low def. I saw the last Res-Evil movie in 3D and I was bored with being hit in the face with a rusty airplane by half way through it. What was interesting was the similarity between the new 3D movies and the very first films shown in public, films of trains steaming straight at the camera that had audiences running for the exits.

The thing was, when they invented movies they had yet to invent cinema and all that means. They had to create a visual grammar and teach the audience to read it. And again with sound, and again with color and here we are again with 3D. Unfortunately all the lessons of history indicate that until the language between film maker and viewer has been developed or reinvented almost everything you will see in 3D will be crap.

 

The plus side of course, is right now the field is wide open.

 

good luck

[Paxan_1]

Hi,

you can play Fallout or any other DX Game in anaglyph stereoscopic mode with the iz3d driver. It is free for anaglyph, you only need a very powerful computer and some glasses. Recording it with fraps is easy, no extra settings are needed. The advantage of anaglyph is you can use it also with ATI and a standard monitor.

 

Try it with Dragon Age, this is very impressive. F3 and NV is only "game 3d" so the deeps aren't real. Dragon Age is "real 3d", the feeling walking through the game and fighting is very impressive.

 

Have a look here for a DA picture:

http://www.dragonagenexus.com/imageshare/image.php?id=5112

 

Its a red cyan anaglyph picture.

 

Paxan

Edited December 28, 2010 by Paxan_1

[jjk999]

 

F3 and NV is only "game 3d" so the deeps aren't real. Dragon Age is "real 3d", the feeling walking through the game and fighting is very impressive.

 

I can see the depth is nicer in general in that image then my FNV 3d views - Actually the fraps stereoscopic recording was nicer then the in game view - better paralax and color. The main problem with the nvidia 3d in game is that it displays in "optimized" (bad choice of word) red/cyan anaglyph - meaning the colors are muddied to assist the 3d though it isn't neccisary to do so. You can see this in action when you choose optimized in the youtube 3D menue under a 3D vid.

 

What exactly do you mean by "game 3d" and "real 3d?"

 

I will look up that driver you mentioned.

[jjk999]

the iz3d driver. It is free for anaglyph,

 

I downloaded it and tried it with FNV with mixed results. The colors were better. Set up was easy. Convergence was smooth and I was able to make convergence perfect on close up objects as directed in the in game iz3d in-game set up,

which is not possible with the Nvidia 3d and its controlls.

 

Also iz3d will take 3d screenshots which is cool too.

 

It's main drawback is that the 3d is not as intense in FNV with iz3d as with the Nvidia solution. Nvidia is too strong and iz3d is too light, at least with my FNV. The pipboy pops out at you with the Nvidia 3d on but not so much with ized on.

 

It's other drawback is that iz3d made my game very laggy and stuttery even when 3d is toggled off. The game ran smoother with the Nvidia option on.

 

If I turn Nvidea AND iz3d BOTH on- will I be physically sucked into my computer and have to fight my way out like in that Tron documentary?

Edited December 29, 2010 by jjk999

[Paxan_1]

Hi,

NV is very laggy with it for anaglyph. The main problem is that F3 and NV isn't real 3D. It is 3D oc ;), but it is 3D for a 2D game / user. So all the objects are 3D but the deeps are faked. It is not a problem for a 2D game with 3D effects. The thing i mean with real 3D is that all the objects are positioned in a real 3D world. This is done in DA but not in F3/NV. I haven't seen the NVidia Vision of this, only the iz3d, because i use ATI.

The problem of the "laggy" game with iz3d is that the driver is cloning the game, so you can say it is running twice on your computer. With my machine i have only 50% in frames, so it is no option for me to play F3/NV. For DA it is great, the game wont have that much power.

Btw, the iz3d option is a cheap way to have 3D, the red/cyan glasses are 1$ and the rest is free :)