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I tried deactivating some mods in the MCM. Seriously, I have like... 10 to 20+ mods in the MCM and a lot of those use scripts fairly heavily right? Especially stuff like Hunterborn, Frostfall AND "Sands of Time".

 

Deactivating 3-4 of the mods in there seemed to improve things slightly, and the suggested Skyrim.ini tweaks improved things a little further (though not as much as deactivating some stuff).

 

If mods are 'deactivated' do their scripts still run at all? Is it better to fully uninstall?

 

I'm now optimising all my textures and BSAs using SMCO (after backing up all my mods), it's a bit of a pain doing all my mod organizer mod folders one by one :') but hopefully should be worth it

 

Thanks everyone for all your help so far

 

Edit:

 

Here's a quick and dirty export of all my mods (not all of them are active... but most of them are):

 

 

 

"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\3rd Person Finishers Only"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\A Matter Of Time - Clock Widget"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Aetherium Swords & Armor Compilation"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Amazing Follower Tweaks"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Apachii Hair"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Apocalypse Spell Pakcage"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Arrowsmith - Dawnguard Edition - v1"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Ashara Erin and Sienna - Followers"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Bank of Skyrim v2.05"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Bashed Patch, 0"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Better Breezehome - Fully Upgradable - Dawnguard and Hearthfires Edition"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Better Vampires 6.9"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Black Market More Gold"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Bloodskal Armor"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Book Covers Skyrim - v3.1 - Legendary Edition"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Calientes Vanilla Armor - Bandit Pack - v1.0"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Calientes Vanilla Armor - Combined Pack - v2.1"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Calientes Vanilla Armor - Soldier Pack"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Cell Stabilizer - Stable uGrids to Load"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Character Creation Overhaul"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Chillrend Weapons - v1"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Circlet Crafting"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Civil War Overhaul"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Climates Of Tamriel - Dawnguard Patch"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Climates Of Tamriel - Dragonborn Patch"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Climates Of Tamriel - Sounds"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Climates of Tamriel - Weather Patch"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Complete Skyforge"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Daedra of Coldharbour"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Deadly Dragons"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Deep Elf (Dwemer) Race Mod"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Dremora of Morrowind"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Dremora Race Mod"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Dwemer Beards"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Dwemer Garb"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Elemental Arrows"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Enchanted Arrows and Bolts"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Enhanced Lights and FX"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Enhanced Lights and FX - Dawnguard"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Enhanced Lights and FX - Dragonborn"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Equipping Overhaul"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Extended UI"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Falskaar"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Familiar Faces"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\FISS - FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Scripts"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\FNIS - Fores New Idles in Skyrim"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Followers Can Relax"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Followers Can Relax - AFT Update"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Followers Can Relax - Serana Patch"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Forgotten Dungeons DLC v1"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Forgotten Dungeons v18"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Frostfall"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Gemling Queen Dragon Claws"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Gemling Queen Jewelry"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposit 2K"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Heavy Armory - Dawnguard Addon"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Heavy Armory - v2.4b - Dragonborn Version"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Heavy Elven Armor - Thalmor Leveled Lists Version"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\HiRes Legible Road Signs - Version 3"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Hoamaii Clearsky Hideout"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Hunterborn"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Immersive Armor Mash-Ups"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Immersive Armors"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Immersive Jewellery"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Immersive Weapons"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Interesting NPCs - 3DNPC"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Ishs Souls to Perks"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\JContainers"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Kerplunk Watery Rocks"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - MCM Special Edition"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\LC Immersive Looting - No Eggs"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Light Bonemold Armor - Fully Integrated"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Lockpick Pro - Lockpick Cheat"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Lore Weapon Expansion"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Lore Weapon Expansion - Blade of Woe"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Lustmord Vampire Armor - v1.2 - HD"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Memory Blocks Log"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Moonpath to Elsweyr - v9.5 beta"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\More Dungeons v2"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\More Hair Colors"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Morrowind Looking Glass Retexture - v2"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Move it - AFT Tweak"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Move it - Followers can Relax - SCTM Idles Addon"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Move it - Less Wait Time"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\No Bloom - Fix Eye Adjusting"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\No Blur & Fix Eye Adjustment"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Oblivion Realm Series Gate of Solitude & Morthal Pain"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\One Tweak"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Perk Points Reset for MCM"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Perkus Maximus - Gold is Weightless Again"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Poison Foods - v1.30 - Assassination Contracts"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel-V3"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\PsiKotic's Necromancy Mod"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Pure Waters - Legendary"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Quieter Spider Footsteps"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\RaceCompatibility with fixes"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\RaceMenu - v3.1"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Random Alternate Start"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Real Glaciers - v2"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Real Roads for Skyrim"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Realistic Ragdolls and Forces"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\RealVision ENB 266d"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Safety Load - v1.2"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Sands of Time - Ultimate Deadly Encounters"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Serana No Hood"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Shadow of Morrowind v0.6c"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\SKSE - Scripts & INI File"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\SkyFalls + SkyMills"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\SkyMoMod"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\SkyMoMod - Dawnguard - LF"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Flora Overhaul 2.0"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Immersive Creatures"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Performance Plus - Pine Needles FX"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Performance Plus - Rainfall FX"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Performance Plus - Snowfall FX"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Performance Plus - The Rift - Aspen Leaves FX - Super Performance"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Sewers v4.12"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Visuals The Outdoors - v1.4"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators - Dawnguard"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators - Dragonborn"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\SkyUI"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Snow Elf Race Mod"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Sofia - Follower"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Soul Forge Mystic Arena"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Sounds of Skyrim - The Dungeons"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Summonable Golden Saints and Dark Seducers"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD 2K"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Terrain Bump"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\TESVAL - v1.3"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Thats Ice"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\The Asteria"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\The Cartographer's Map Markers"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\The Field Lab"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\The Lost Wonders of Mzark"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\The Reserve"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\The Skyrim Distance Overhaul Beta (S.D.O.)"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Torcs"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Unique Grasses and Groundcovers - Nature and Landscape Enhancement"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Unique Uniques"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Unofficial Dawnguard Patch"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Unofficial Dragonborn Patch"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Unofficial Hearthfire Patch"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Unofficial High Resolution Patch"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Unofficial Skyrim Patch"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Verdant Grass"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Victoria Velina - Revamped - Follower"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\WarmongerArmory - DLC"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\WarmongerArmory - Leveled List"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\WarmongerArmory - Vanilla"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Wearable Lanterns - v3.0b"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Wintermyst v3.02"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Wyrmstooth"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Wyrmstooth Map Marker Hotfix"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Wyrmstooth Travel Crash Hotfix"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\Xavier - Necromancer Follower"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\XCE - Xenius Character Enhancement"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\XPMS"
"D:\Games\Mod Organizer\mods\ZZJay's Wardrobe"

 

 

 

So... 167 mods. I'd say at least 140/150 of them are 'active'. Note that the above is not the load order. The load and mod orders check out ok through MO and I don't ever get any CTD or anything like that. I also have a 'lite' bashed patch which is just levelled list amends.

 

Both Skyrim and all the mods are located on my secondary 4TB D-drive, which is an SSHD (hybrid) drive.

 

Could that in and of itself be causing any issues?

 

This is the SSHD:

 

 

 

ST4000DX001-1CE168
	Manufacturer	Seagate
	Heads	16
	Cylinders	219,051
	Tracks	55,858,005
	Sectors	3,519,054,315
	SATA type	SATA-III 6.0Gb/s
	Device type	Fixed
	ATA Standard	ACS2
	Serial Number	Z302SJGY
	Firmware Version Number	CC44
	LBA Size	48-bit LBA
	Power On Count	119 times
	Power On Time	68.8 days
	Speed	5900 RPM
	Features	S.M.A.R.T., APM, NCQ
	Max. Transfer Mode	SATA III 6.0Gb/s
	Used Transfer Mode	SATA III 6.0Gb/s
	Interface	SATA
	Capacity	1678 GB
	Real size	1,801,763,774,464 bytes
	RAID Type	None
		S.M.A.R.T
			Status	Good
			Temperature	32 °C
			Temperature Range	OK (less than 50 °C)
				S.M.A.R.T attributes
		Partition 0
			Partition ID	Disk #2, Partition #0
			Disk Letter	D:
			File System	NTFS
			Volume Serial Number	1C05715A
			Size	3725 GB
			Used Space	1592 GB (42%)
			Free Space	2133 GB (58%)

 

 

 

The OS is booting from a separate 120GB 'true' SSD (Samsung).

 

Thanks again!

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I hate bagging on any mod and I mean no offence at all to anybody but I would definitely dump Sands of Time. It's just a total script heavy haywire CTD machine. And I don't say this because I'm a jerk. I tried several times to install it and tweak it and work with it and basically it always comes down to the fact that this thing will blow the doors off your machine with its script heavy encounters.

 

If you have Save Game Script Cleaner you can load your save game and see which mods have loaded the most scripts into your save file.

 

http://i.imgur.com/NH0d3i8.png

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Well this certainly seems to mean something:

 

xY7Ow5R.jpg

 

What exactly does it mean and what should I do about it? or how can I 'check it out' and make some kind of intelligent decision?

 

Duly noted about SoT. I think in my heart of hearts I know I have to remove it since I use so many other things I want to keep (Hunterborn, Frostfall). I still think it's a good mod and endorse it but yes it is maniacally script heavy.

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That happens to me all the time. You can safely delete all your active scripts. Just click that whole list and "delete selected". If for some insane reason something goes wrong you merely reload the backup file.

 

Also, most active scripts when they're that high is usually some critterspawn glitch, it usually cleans itself out when you change to a new cell. I'll bet if you go indoors or outdoors and check your active scripts again they'll be back to 4 or 5.

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it makes me wonder if I could pay a programmer/developer to amend the Skyrim engine so it uses a scripting engine that isn't papyrus :') I imagine it would cost some dolla though, if it were even possible. We desperately need a 'ReScript' mod that solves these issues.

 

Edit:

 

FYI to anyone reading this, finally solved the issue by removing Sands of Time.

 

Here are the steps I took:

 

1) Deactivate the mod in MCM

 

2) Wait until it's fully deactivated, save the game and close it

 

3) Deactivate SoT in MO

 

4) Open Skyrim, reload the save and tell it to continue loading with missing content

 

5) Re-save the game and quit to desktop

 

6) Open the save with the save game script cleaner, use the primary four options along the top. Save over the old save

 

7) Re-open Skyrim, load the save. Stutter fully gone!

 

 

... moral of the story, Papyrus is awful, never underestimate 'script' lag. Even when you own a rig with a 4GHz i7, GTX 980 (4GB) and 16GB of DDR3 RAM. it still hurts you!

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Just an observation. Most of the issues my users have with SOT are because of resources not being available to support dynamic truly random spawns. No one has complained about script lag with SOT in over a year, and script lag has been hard to measure since I created the one virtual script model. With the system in place no major SOT script will run if s script is already executing.

 

Not trying to sell the mod, just expand on what I believe is the real issue. 32 bit code designed with Xbox and play station in mind resulting in a game with severely limited resources. Every user here has been fair in commenting. SOT is not for everyone.

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