Deleted2177411User Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Can I raise the amount that it's using or does it already have so much extra left over? It is already massively larger than Oblivion default. This is what TweakGuide says about that setting: So, then I'm running with 512MB. If I can't in fact force the game to use the added RAM then I guess I'm screwed on this one. There is a mod called NoLoad. This mod removes the "Loading Area" text. But it will not do anything about the slow loading and the way your controls are frozen during the time when the message would ordinarily be displayed on the screen. This page is attempting to get me to subscribe to fileplanet.com so that's not going to do it. Thanks anyways! Do you have a pagefile set? With big amounts of RAM, its often better to completely turn it off as you really dont need it, and some games/programs will run better. No, I don't have pagefile turned on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demidekidasu Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Can I raise the amount that it's using or does it already have so much extra left over? It is already massively larger than Oblivion default. This is what TweakGuide says about that setting: So, then I'm running with 512MB. If I can't in fact force the game to use the added RAM then I guess I'm screwed on this one. There is a mod called NoLoad. This mod removes the "Loading Area" text. But it will not do anything about the slow loading and the way your controls are frozen during the time when the message would ordinarily be displayed on the screen. This page is attempting to get me to subscribe to fileplanet.com so that's not going to do it. Thanks anyways! Do you have a pagefile set? With big amounts of RAM, its often better to completely turn it off as you really dont need it, and some games/programs will run better. No, I don't have pagefile turned on. The "preloadsizelimit" setting is often missunderstood, and setting it too high will cause you more problems than it solves. What it actually is, is simply the preload buffer, not a working set memory limitation(which is defined by the LAA flag in the .exe file headers, but the game is not going to use it if it has nothing to load in there!) Thankfully, Oblivion remains perfectly stable if given the LAA flag, so RAM Booster is an unlikely culprit, IMO. I could well be wrong though! Just bear in mind that setting the preload buffer too high can give you massive headaches, as the game's engine simply cannot handle extreme amounts of data and will cough and splutter shortly before keeling over and dying. It might be worth lowering the amount to something far more sensible than what it is currently at, to see if this is the problem! As for your answer about the system page file, fair enough. Was just trying to narrow the list of possible causes down :thumbsup: You know...Now I think about it, I recon it could well be the preload limit being set too high... Think about it for a minute - if the game is trying to load much more data than it is realistically capable of, this could theoretically result in pauses/stutters when moving to new cells/areas, as the engine simply cannot move the data into RAM fast enough... make sense? If your hardware was slower, this would actually result in crashes, as there would be a double-layer bottleneck thing going on, leaving the engine going, "Need new data. Need it now! GIMME NOW! QUICKLY! ...Oops... I forgot what I needed it for..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 [...]This page is attempting to get me to subscribe to fileplanet.com so that's not going to do it. Thanks anyways![...] Fileplanet does not require a subscription, it has free servers as well. Just create a user account and download from the free public servers, much like you do with many other file sharing sites among the vast interwebs. However I suggest you use the mod Message Remover Pack, since it's the most complete and functional one I've found over the years. It contains multiple ESPs to remove certain messages. Or if you need to save some ESP slots you can safely merge them into one ESP using a utility such as TES4Gecko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demidekidasu Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 [...]This page is attempting to get me to subscribe to fileplanet.com so that's not going to do it. Thanks anyways![...] Fileplanet does not require a subscription, it has free servers as well. Just create a user account and download from the free public servers, much like you do with many other file sharing sites among the vast interwebs. However I suggest you use the mod Message Remover Pack, since it's the most complete and functional one I've found over the years. It contains multiple ESPs to remove certain messages. Or if you need to save some ESP slots you can safely merge them into one ESP using a utility such as TES4Gecko. Whilst that mod may prevent the "loading area" messages from showing, you are missing the point that the OP shouldnt be getting them in the first place on that hardware... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Whilst that mod may prevent the "loading area" messages from showing, you are missing the point that the OP shouldnt be getting them in the first place on that hardware...Nope, I didn't miss anything, I've read the thread. I did however single out this one aspect and offer advice, that fileplanet does not require a paid subscription, and an alternative, Message Remover Pack, for an already suggested mod. I thought it was clear that I was only focusing on one aspect of this thread, since that's the only part I quoted. Everything else has been covered and I had nothing further to offer. Really there was no reason for your rebuttal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demidekidasu Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Whilst that mod may prevent the "loading area" messages from showing, you are missing the point that the OP shouldnt be getting them in the first place on that hardware...Nope, I didn't miss anything, I've read the thread. I did however single out this one aspect and offer advice, that fileplanet does not require a paid subscription, and an alternative, Message Remover Pack, for an already suggested mod. I thought it was clear that I was only focusing on one aspect of this thread, since that's the only part I quoted. Everything else has been covered and I had nothing further to offer. Really there was no reason for your rebuttal. Sorry, I didnt mean for it to come accross quite like that! I was just saying that removing the messages isnt what will fix the issue... I got the impression that you had missunderstood what the OP was complaining about. My appologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted2177411User Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 It might be worth lowering the amount to something far more sensible than what it is currently at, to see if this is the problem! I brought my RAM down to about 300MB with no change. I'm not in front of the computer right now but it was between 300-350MB, something like that. As for your answer about the system page file, fair enough. Was just trying to narrow the list of possible causes down :thumbsup: I didn't mean any insult to your question. I may have just phrased my answer wrong I guess. However I suggest you use the mod Message Remover Pack, since it's the most complete and functional one I've found over the years. It contains multiple ESPs to remove certain messages. I tried using it but after following the directions it doesn't show in the load list within the launcher. Or if you need to save some ESP slots you can safely merge them into one ESP using a utility such as TES4Gecko. I have yet to use this yet or even try it out. I have found in the past that mods don't work well in the Steam version unless I'm using OBMM to implement the files. Now that I think of it I'll have to check if the MRP from the previous quote shows up there. Fileplanet does not require a subscription, it has free servers as well. Just create a user account and download from the free public servers, much like you do with many other file sharing sites among the vast interwebs. I have yet to set one up though I may already have one from a while back. I'll try again later. Whilst that mod may prevent the "loading area" messages from showing, you are missing the point that the OP shouldnt be getting them in the first place on that hardware...Nope, I didn't miss anything, I've read the thread. I did however single out this one aspect and offer advice, that fileplanet does not require a paid subscription, and an alternative, Message Remover Pack, for an already suggested mod. I thought it was clear that I was only focusing on one aspect of this thread, since that's the only part I quoted. Everything else has been covered and I had nothing further to offer. Really there was no reason for your rebuttal. Hey, cool down guys! No reason to get worked up over this. Really, the issue is plaguing me so if anyone is going to get frustrated it better as hell be me who is getting mad here. Either way, I thank you both for taking the time to guide me through this issue. If there is no solution then I can just make due. The game is so well made to begin with that a little loading text won't be so bad. Just cuts down on my immersion a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demidekidasu Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I suggest lowering it to much less than 300mb! Lol, I would say about 200-250 max... Just to clarify... You know I am refering to the PRELOAD limit, right? And sorry if it seemed like an argument was brewing. I thought Smooth613 missunderstood the topic, and then Smooth613 missunderstood my reply - probably because I worded it in a rather unpleasant way to be perfectly honest, which I didnt really mean to! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 [...]I tried using it but after following the directions it doesn't show in the load list within the launcher. Then you didn't properly install the mod.[...]I have yet to use this yet or even try it out. I have found in the past that mods don't work well in the Steam version unless I'm using OBMM to implement the files. Now that I think of it I'll have to check if the MRP from the previous quote shows up there.The STEAM version is no different than the retail version concerning mods or modding utilities. Only OBSE, Oblivion Script Extender, requires one additional file to work with the STEAM version, which is included in the OBSE archives. Other than that the only difference is one has a disc, the other doesn't. I've used both versions extensively over the years and never once had a problem that was due to the version I was using. STEAM never has been, and never will be, the source of modding problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted2177411User Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 The STEAM version is no different than the retail version concerning mods or modding utilities. Only OBSE, Oblivion Script Extender, requires one additional file to work with the STEAM version, which is included in the OBSE archives. Other than that the only difference is one has a disc, the other doesn't. I've used both versions extensively over the years and never once had a problem that was due to the version I was using. STEAM never has been, and never will be, the source of modding problems. I have had some issues with impementing other mods that don't have just a basic OBMM file for them. I've also had problems with some others such as the two Fallouts plus some other non-Bethesda games like GTA IV. GTA IV is a royal pain sometimes. To be honest, I only got into PC gaming about three years ago. I was more of a console game player aside from Doom or Duke Nukem. It wasn't until I got a new job in the field and funds to build a computer that I tried out "STEAM" and modding in general. So it's very probable that I am in fact doing something wrong. Unfortunately, I also grew up with Macs and not PCs so yeah, there may be some things I'm missing here. Just to clarify... You know I am refering to the PRELOAD limit, right? Correct. I included a snip of what I was changing in one of my first posts. I suggest lowering it to much less than 300mb! Lol, I would say about 200-250 max... Ah, I'll have to change it again then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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