brokenergy Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Good for you, it takes only 5 min to register for a BioWare account, all you give a email and made up user name. If you feel that you must feel that way for something so small as that, then by all means don't buy the game. All I see it as a silly excuse. I understand people who have limited Internet access and it is understandable but to have normal Internet access complain for something that takes about a min is silly. Sorry but that excuse doesn't even fly with me. And as for TW2, non-GOG editions uses Steam DRM for digital and usual Atari DRM for retail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElliotKane Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Brokenergy, OK, you have me curious, now. What level of DRM do you think is justifiable for a single player offline game? And why? At what point do you think the company would be going too far? (As a - still irrelevant - side note: according to Gamebanshee: The Witcher 2 will launch DRM-free worldwide (on retail editions).) Edited February 2, 2011 by ElliotKane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thandal Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 No disk check ever made requires you to be online, or to register with a company... For those who are fine with this kind of DRM, well, I hope you enjoy the game. I'm not fine with it, which means I will never play the game unless the company relents. Just the way it is.So, you run what OS on your rig? 'Cuz if it's a legit license for any current version of Windows, you already did "register (your computer) with the company". And it's already phoning home regularly to ensure that your copy is still legit. And you can't claim "but if I WANTED to I wouldn't have to connect to keep using Windows." While true, also irrelevant. You do use Windows, and you do connect, so you ARE participating in Microsoft's DRM scheme. This isn't much different (in practice). You're claiming what's known in civil suits as "theoretic harm", which gets your case thrown out since you haven't actually suffered any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElliotKane Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Thandal, Yeah, well, the choice with Windows is simple: don't use it and forget ever being able to play games ever again or use it and hate that you have to. Same question to you, though: when it comes to games, what level of DRM do you think is justifiable for a single player offline game? And why? At what point do you think the company would be going too far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sync182 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 IMO, going too far is World Of Warcraft: the game is only playable online, and you have to pay a monthly fee for the privilege AFTER you pay for all the game materials. I'm fine with the game checking in every so often, so long as I don't get screwed for game play if it misses even a single check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorfish Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 5. If you try to play the game on more than 5 machines in a 24 hour period, it will not let you play the game. Wait...what? This seems worded disingenuously as it reads like "the game locks you out," as opposed to "you can only play it on the 5 computers you played it on today until tomorrow." I'll assume the latter is true for now unless it was indicated somewhere that hitting the limit shuts you out completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ell46 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Thandal - thank you that sounds a bit more reasonable. Brokenenergy - I don't go always go online when I play DA for 2 reasons (1) I lock down my internet connection to stop any software from updating while I play and (2) I have that option disabled in the game settings, so I only go online to BW when I choose to, which isn't very often. Edited February 2, 2011 by ell46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenergy Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 5. If you try to play the game on more than 5 machines in a 24 hour period, it will not let you play the game. Wait...what? This seems worded disingenuously as it reads like "the game locks you out," as opposed to "you can only play it on the 5 computers you played it on today until tomorrow." I'll assume the latter is true for now unless it was indicated somewhere that hitting the limit shuts you out completely. You can still install DA2 on infinity computers on infinity times, you can play on only five in any given 24 hour period. It means that if you use a 6th pc, you wont be able to play on the 6th pc only. You'll still be able to play the game on the 5 that you have already. ell: I have bad Internet, it keeps going in and out at time. I have to use another computer to have constant Internet connection on high speeds. Besides, unlike Steam, DA2 will not update without your permission and the fact that I can go in and out doesn't really matter to me because it doesn't glue me to the Internet like Ubisoft's DRM does. You can remain off on x amount of days before you connect again. You can still turn it off after that, it's a pain but I would rather deal with that than to deal with Ubisoft. Besides that requirement is not set in stone yet and will subjected to change as Fernando Melo wrote... ...This system, apart from being much more user and system friendly in a lot more subtle ways than most commercial drm software, has none of the first 3 items/restrictions. And the jury is still out on the last item on the list (including whether to even have this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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