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questions about miscegenation in Dragon Age


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I will do my best not to get too graphic. I just got done playing a Dwarven rogue, who had a relationship with Leliana, Morrigan, and Zevran. Said Dwarf also made a baby with Morrigan. I've checked the wiki, and it seems regardless of the PC's race, he or she can make love to humans or elves(strangely, there don't seem to be any dwarven romance options for non-dwarven characters). The City Elf origin involves humans sexually assaulting female elves. I also believe that one of Zathrian's daughters was "with child" after being sexually assaulted by humans. Last, I read a codex about the ancient elves which I believe said something about human genetics being dominant(and hence them withdrawing from human interaction), does this mean that a "half-elf" is born fully human?

Anyway, here are my two questions: First of all, no one says anything about the warden having an interracial relationship, yet there don't seem to be any interracial couples in Ferelden( although human males seem to have a penchant for sexually assaulting female elves. There is also the Pearl, which has prostitutes of all three races, but no actual "couples").

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There are interracial couples in Ferelden, you just haven't seen them. Soris (CE's cousin) marries a human and leave for Highever. Iona is an elf who had a relationship with a human and Alistair is a son of an elf and human. With that said there are no half-race in Thedas, the devs believe (and I agree) that it will complicated everything in a biological sence. It is implyed that there is half-dwarves but there is no hard or solid case to answer (save a codex entry). So no, all half-races (especially elves) appear human. Oh and hornless qunari are not human/qunari off-spring but a genetic defect that is considered special.
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... Oh and hornless qunari are not human/qunari off-spring but a genetic defect variation that is considered special.

Fixed that for ya'! :thumbsup:

 

Nah, it was fine in the first place, hornless qunari are considered as genetic defects by biological standards. They are missing the gene that gives them their horns. What the qunari do with them is up to them and their culture.

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... Oh and hornless qunari are not human/qunari off-spring but a genetic defect variation that is considered special.

Fixed that for ya'! :thumbsup:

 

Nah, it was fine in the first place, hornless qunari are considered as genetic defects by biological standards. They are missing the gene that gives them their horns. What the qunari do with them is up to them and their culture.

I was going based on the info I remembered, (which I thought I got from a dev post on the BSN) then found just now on the DA Wikia (empasis added); "Qunari" article:

 

"In Dragon Age II, it is revealed that most qunari have horns. Some are born without them, but it is not considered a defect - on the contrary, those born without horns are considered special, as they are meant for a special role in qunari society such as a Ben-Hassrath or an envoy to the other races. Sten, as a soldier of the Beresaad, falls into this category. It is not uncommon for qunari who betray their beliefs to remove their own horns (as in the case of Armaas), though the reason for this act is not yet clear.[1]"

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I know that, I'm basing my info on biological terms. Like I said, biologically, it is considered a defect but in Qunari culture, it is considered special. It's not like it hasn't happened before.
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I know that, I'm basing my info on biological terms. Like I said, biologically, it is considered a defect but in Qunari culture, it is considered special. It's not like it hasn't happened before.

Gosh, and here my reading indicated that hornlessness was just "a genetic variation", rather than a defect. Guess I'll have to dust off my copy of "Qunari Biolology" for a closer look. :laugh:

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My dear friend, most Qunari have horns, only a small minorty have no horns. You cannot state that it is a variation, hence they would be more common. It's is considered a defect by biological standards, I think you need to re-read that quote you gave me. The Qunari don't see it as a defect, it's a cultural thing, just like people in India (a recent example) don't consider a baby with four arms as twins fused together.
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The Qunari don't see it as a defect, it's a cultural thing, just like people in India (a recent example) don't consider a baby with four arms as twins fused together.

That is a really bad analogy for a number of reasons, as last I checked, the Qunari aren't polytheists that worship a hornless god. Still, the whole horned/hornless Qunari thing is just a tad off-topic, as I was more curious about mixed-race children(and by extension interracial sex and social attitudes towards it in Dragon Age). However, since we are all talking about Qunari anyway, I think I can end the debate quite easily,

 

1.) Qunari are make-believe, and therefore talking about their genetics would not make sense. Like most fantasy games, most things don't make sense when you get too sciencey about them, that is why Dragon Age is called fantasy, and not science fiction. Case in point, how the hell does a Dragon fly, it has tiny wings and weighs about 20 metric tons!!

 

2.) Whoever designed Sten didn't put horns on him for whatever reason. When making DA2, Bioware probably wanted to add horns to the Qunari in order to differentiate them from the humans(because without the horns, they really are just big humans, just as elves without pointy ears are small ones).

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1.) Qunari are make-believe, and therefore talking about their genetics would not make sense...

 

2.) Whoever designed Sten didn't put horns on him for whatever reason. When making DA2, Bioware probably wanted to add horns to the Qunari in order to differentiate them from the humans...

We know all that, Jiggalopuff! :tongue:

 

In fact, I am presuming that BKE had her tongue as far in her cheeck as I did. But you're right that we strayed rather far off-topic in considering one of the apects of the DA-verse" in a (semi-)serious manner... Except that's exactly what the whole topic is, now isn't it?

 

I believe both BKE and I were really more interested in the impact of hornlessness (regardless of its "cause") on Qunari society. Just got a bit side-tracked with the "technicalities", that's all. :laugh:

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