spoiler questions about miscegenation in Dragon Age

[Jiggalopuff]

Thank you Thandal, congrats on your modship by the way. Do you accept bribes? :biggrin:

 

Anyway, what I don't like about the whole horn issue is that is seems pretty much like a bad retcon. But, while we are talking about Qunari anyway, how come Sten won't put out for the player, does he consider non-Qunari women too fragile?

[Thandal]

Well, he does offer to go a round with Morri! :laugh:

By the time he gets to suggesting she might want to heat a prybar in a fire first, she seems to lose all interest. :sick: :tongue:

[brokenergy]

 

That is a really bad analogy for a number of reasons, as last I checked, the Qunari aren't polytheists that worship a hornless god. Still, the whole horned/hornless Qunari thing is just a tad off-topic, as I was more curious about mixed-race children(and by extension interracial sex and social attitudes towards it in Dragon Age). However, since we are all talking about Qunari anyway, I think I can end the debate quite easily,

 

Not really, I'm stating that what science states is different from what people percieve. The Qunari people percieve that it is special, while science states that it is a defect. If it was a variation, there would be more hornless Qunari around.

 

1.) Qunari are make-believe, and therefore talking about their genetics would not make sense. Like most fantasy games, most things don't make sense when you get too sciencey about them, that is why Dragon Age is called fantasy, and not science fiction. Case in point, how the hell does a Dragon fly, it has tiny wings and weighs about 20 metric tons!!

 

Well duh, it's a game not real life. :rolleyes:

 

2.) Whoever designed Sten didn't put horns on him for whatever reason. When making DA2, Bioware probably wanted to add horns to the Qunari in order to differentiate them from the humans(because without the horns, they really are just big humans, just as elves without pointy ears are small ones).

 

Sten was suppose to have horns in the first place but was removed because of helmets and cliping issues on doors. That's also the reason why Shale took so long to program as well and was eventually released as a DLC. It's not a recon, the original Qunari did suppose to have horns. In eariler concepts they also had hooves and a lizard tails but those were scraped because the devs didn't like it much.

[Sync182]

It's human nature to want to know "Why"?

 

Ye canna defy human nature. ;)

[brokenergy]

It's human nature to want to know "Why"?

 

Ye canna defy human nature. ;)

 

Yes, that's it. I must have my whys!

 

In anycase, the op's question is answered. So case closed, lock thread, or leave it to dust.

[naomis8329]

Lol this topic has had me smiling somewhat and I have found this very interesting.

 

The children from Elven-Human and Dwarven-Human relationships tend to be Human rather than the "other race" looking. As mentioned Alistair is the son of an Elf and a Human and he is tall, blonde and looks like his father. It has been stated through the game that Humans are drawn to Elves due to their beauty (whether it be in a nice way or in a horrid way) and that Humans also find Dwarves exotic and are drawn to them as a result. However most dwarven women on the surface are normally married or stick to their own kind and most humans are not allowed into Orz due to it being none accessible by none dwarves other than nobility or Wardens.

 

I find the subject very interesting and it has been suggested that there have been relationships between Qunaris and Humans but this is inferred through different stories and articles that have been written.

 

Elves are unfortunately looked upon as a sub-species in DA and therefore "play things" for those that are of a mind, I like to think that the majority of inter-racial partnerships are based on love not just lust and want.

 

I suppose it depends on what you want to believe and how you want to interpret the story lines and the books (if you have read them). I also guess that for those of us who have played the Elderscrolls games we like to believe that Elves are held in a higher regard than as portrayed in DA. I know I was shocked the first time I played through DAO as a human never mind an elf.

[brokenergy]

There isn't any supposed relationships between a Qunari and human in Qunari lands (hence one of the reasons why I stated that hornless Quanri are genetic defect in biological terms). Qunari treat having kids the same as horse breeders treat top breeding studs.

[Stevej101]

If it's a defect or not is really not the point though right? That it is alluded to that the hornless ones are special is the point.

 

Then again, mom and dad said I was special when they put me on the little bus too. :laugh:

[Jiggalopuff]

I suppose it depends on what you want to believe and how you want to interpret the story lines and the books (if you have read them). I also guess that for those of us who have played the Elderscrolls games we like to believe that Elves are held in a higher regard than as portrayed in DA. I know I was shocked the first time I played through DAO as a human never mind an elf.

TBH, I mentally lump all the TES races into two groups, the "humans", and the "furries"( Khajitt, Argonian, orcs). I never really paid much attention to race, as they all looked the same to me. As for Dragon Age, they seem to be the same as all Tolkien and D&D elves, they are all a bunch of pointy-eared hippies that like bows, nature, and used to rule the world. Mind you, DAO elves seem to be of lower status than most other elves. for one would like to see a world where humans are an underpriveleged minority, instead of the ruling class.

 

hornless Quanri are genetic defect in biological terms

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First of all, what are Qunari horns even used for? By calling hornless Qunari defective, that is implying that the horn offer some sort of physical advantage. For all we know, hornless Qunari such as Sten are genetically superior since they have more room for brain mass in their head. What about snakes, are they simply defective lizards since they lack feet?

 

 

The children from Elven-Human and Dwarven-Human relationships tend to be Human rather than the "other race" looking. As mentioned Alistair is the son of an Elf and a Human and he is tall, blonde and looks like his father.

mixed race children looking human does make sense from several perspectives. It would be rather convoluted and difficult it a lot of characters had the leniage of several races(E.G. quarter elf half dwarves). If Alistair has a baby with Anora, might it have elf ears? that would be really funny if the Crown Prince(ss) were a "knife ear".

[brokenergy]

 

First of all, what are Qunari horns even used for? By calling hornless Qunari defective, that is implying that the horn offer some sort of physical advantage. For all we know, hornless Qunari such as Sten are genetically superior since they have more room for brain mass in their head. What about snakes, are they simply defective lizards since they lack feet?

 

 

Same could be said for about an extra finger or an toe, it's there for show. Horned Qunari are the norm of DA, hornless Qunari are not. Geez, people need to get over the fact that just because a culture believes it's special doesn't mean it could be considered as in genetic. For all we know Qunari come from something that resembles a human. For the final time I'm stating this; most Qunari have horns, only a few don't. In real life genetics, it is considered a defect, for it to be a variation there needs to be more. End of story.

Edited February 12, 2011 by brokenergy