Fallout 3 Plugin Load Order

[Sonic144]

Hi to everyone

 

After I exit the Vault (I mean 101 @ the beginning) the game crashes when I am near Springvale .

It also crashes in the wasteland, if i am far away enough from the exit of Vault 101. So I cannot leave the region around the the vault 101 - "Cave".

 

Here is my Load Order

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

[X] StreetLights.esm

[X] Lings.esm

[X] LingsDLC.esm

[X] FNNsys.esm

[X] Destruction.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] xCALIBR.esm

[X] xCALIBRuniverse.esm

[X] Project Beauty.esm

[X] 20th Century Weapons.esm

[X] Megaton Expansion Project V03.esm

[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm

[X] COMM.esm

[X] Vehicle Overhaul.esm

[X] RZW_Master.esm

[X] RZW_Television.esm

[X] Vault 101 Revisited.esm

[X] CubeExperimental (EN).esm

[X] TheInstitute.esm

[X] CyberneticDawn.esm

[X] EVE.esm

[X] Apocalypse Armory.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] LingsFinerThings.esm

[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

[X] Globaltravelsystem.esm

[X] GTSEssentials.esm

[X] GTSDeathCanyon.esm

[X] AmyWong.esm

[X] RHKBrisaAlmodovar.esm

[X] EnclaveCommander-OA-Pitt-Steel.esm

[X] CRI-Squad-new.esm

[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

[X] Sharing and Caring Companions.esm

[*] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp

[*] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp

[*] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp

[*] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp

[*] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] ObjectPlacementFix.esp

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[*] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

[*] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

[X] CASM.esp

[X] Fallout Safe Exit v1.1.esp

[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

[X] More Hotkeys.esp

[X] Feng Shui.esp

[X] GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp

[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp

[X] We Jazz.esp

[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-FixOptRemOld.esp

[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-FixOptAddNew.esp

[*] ArefuExpandedByAzar-FixEyes.esp

[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-FixMisc.esp

[X] Existence2.0.esp

[X] Loki_HistoricSpeeches_v1.esp

[X] Clawpeak.esp

[X] GTSPointLookOut.esp

[X] GTSThePitt.esp

[X] GTSCOMM.esp

[X] XenoTec Corporations.esp

[X] Magnexus.esp

[X] SpaceAdventure.esp

[X] CRI-HQ.esp

[X] Predators.esp

[X] NotSoFast.esp

[X] HeirApparent.esp

[X] IntoTheDeepWoods.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp

[X] MegatonContracts.esp

[X] Regulators.esp

[X] BoSPatrols.esp

[X] DN_RecyclingMachine.esp

[X] Sack of Holding.esp

[X] solarcharger.esp

[X] QuantumPipeV2.esp

[*] Destruction - Main.esp

[X] Destruction - Main - Statics.esp

[*] Destruction - DLC.esp

[X] Destruction - DLC - Statics.esp

[X] FPS Knife Hotkey.esp

[X] bzArmour.esp

[X] bzBodySuits.esp

[X] bzFatigues.esp

[X] Bonds Big Town.esp

[X] More2Megaton.esp

[X] CGi_MegatonHouse_Extension_UK.ESP

[X] Spring vale rebuilt.esp

[X] SecretOfParadise.esp

[X] Vault88.esp

[X] TecVault.esp

[X] TranquilityHome.esp

[X] Alpha.C.E.v.esp

[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp

[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp

[X] UndergroundHideout.esp

[X] DanielsFamilyVault.esp

[X] KORsVaultHome.esp

[X] Player Mansion.esp

[X] Broadway_cinema.esp

[X] DCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.esp

[X] RZW_SilentVideoCollection.esp

[X] RZW_VideoCollection00.esp

[X] RZW_VideoCollection01.esp

[X] RZW_VideoCollection02.esp

[X] RZW_VideoCollection03.esp

[X] RZW_VideoCollection04.esp

[X] greenerworld.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[*] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

[*] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

[*] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp

[X] DWCRedux.esp

[X] Refurbishes [ALL].esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[*] WMKAA12Shotgun.esp

[X] Allanx_JL21.esp

[X] m200intervention.esp

[X] 20thCWItemPlacement2.esp

[*] 20cen Icons.esp

[X] TG Armor Collection.esp

[X] DIM TYPE3 conversions.esp

[X] Type3Accessories.esp

[X] Type3Clothes.esp

[X] Type3BodyWear.esp

[X] NEVECv1.esp

[X] Persona_and_Secret.esp

[X] Dogmeat Leather Armor - CRAFT.esp

[X] Ghostbodysuitv3.esp

[X] LeatherBackpack - eng.esp

[X] Mysteriouswoman_clothesaddon.esp

[X] UWWUT_WT.esp

[X] UWWUT_WT - TP Addon.esp

[X] UWWUT_WT - BS Addon.esp

[X] UWWUT_WT - WMK Addon.esp

[X] ImmersiveHealth.esp

[X] EVE.esp

[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

[*] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp

[*] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp

[*] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

[*] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

[*] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] eyes_hairpack_en.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[*] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

[*] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[*] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

[*] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

[*] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

[*] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

[X] LingsFinerThings.esp

[X] LingsPrettyThings.esp

[X] LingsPrettyThings-BrokenSteel.esp

[*] xCALIBRuniverse.esp

[X] xCALIBRUniverse - WMK.esp

[*] xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp

[*] xCALIBR_20CW_v5.12.esp

[*] xCALIBRammo_override.esp

[X] xCALIBRuniverse_LingsBrokenSteel.esp

[*] MegatonContracts-Linged.esp

[X] xCALIBRuniverse_LingsPrettyThings.esp

[X] Apocalypse Armory.esp

[*] Apocalypse Armory - Optional Historical Names.esp

[X] Apocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.esp

[X] Apocalypse Armory - CALIBR.esp

[*] Apocalypse Armory - xCALIBR.esp

[*] Apocalypse Armory + WMK.esp

[X] Apocalypse Armory + EVE.esp

[X] Rivens_Eyescapes.esp

[X] AQFH.esp

[X] AQFH2.esp

[X] LucyWestCompanion.esp

[X] AmyWong - FOSE.esp

[X] AmyWong - DLCs.esp

[X] AmyWong - CALIBR 1.3 (FWE 5).esp

[X] AmyWong - FWE 5.esp

[X] Follower Amata ULTIMATE.esp

[X] Mysteriouswoman_dressncoat.esp

[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp

[X] FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp

[X] UsableCigarettes.esp

[X] Glow Sticks.esp

[*] Owned!.esp

[X] T_R_A_S_C_H.esp

[X] ShellRain.esp

[X] I'll Touch What I Want.esp

[X] ColeensTent.esp

[*] Core Robots - The Eyebots.esp

[X] Core Robots - The Protectrons.esp

[*] Fellout-pipboylight.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp

[X] Fellout-Full.esp

[*] Fellout-Anchorage.esp

[*] Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

[X] Fellout-PointLookout.esp

[X] Fellout-Zeta.esp

[X] PureWaterLR.esp

[X] F3UmpaAnimation.esp

[X] The Groovatron.esp

[X] The Groovatron_DLC_Pitt_Addon.esp

[X] The Groovatron_DLC_PL_Addon.esp

[X] XENH.esp

[X] RHKBrisaAlmodovar-HF1.esp

[X] AmyWong - Load Order Fix.esp

[*] Destruction - CP - Fellout.esp

[*] FNNsys - FWE.esp

[X] Fallout 3 Tweaks.esp

[X] Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[ ] Bashed Patch, 1.esp

 

* = merged or integrated into Bashed Patches, 0.esp or Bashed Patches, 1.esp (ONLY one is active ). The difference between BP0 and BP1 : BP 1 has less plugins integrated.

It does not matter which Bashed Patch I use (or even if use Bashed Patch at all), it keeps crashing. The same with FO3Edit - Merged Patch.

 

Vanilla Fallout - NO CTD at all

 

So I guess it's a load order issue. Any suggestions?

[GrizzlyUK]

First off, Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm should be right after Fallout3.esm and before the DLC .esm's, as per the FAQ section of the Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch readme:

Q: What's the best place to put the Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch in the load order?

A: The Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch should ALWAYS be set to load first to avoid conflicts with other mods, the file date of Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esp has been set to 01\01\2001 so you won't have to worry about changing the load order.

 

Now onto other things that you need to look at. Have you checked that all those mods you say have been "merged or integrated into Bashed Patches" have actually been fully merged or integrated? Have you checked each mods readme file to ensure that you have any and all required files? Also check for any info about known incompatibilities and details on getting different mods working together. Make sure you have the correct versions, some mods require specific versions of other mods to work properly so don't just blindly install the latest versions.

 

Unfortunately, the more mods you install the harder it becomes to get them all to play nicely together. It gets even harder once you start adding in the big overhaul mods like MMM, FOWE etc. In this case, seeing as you say you can't get away from the Vault 101 entrance without the game crashing, I'd suspect either required mod(s) are misssing or there's a conflict of some sort. Try creating a new Bashed Patch but do not fully merge or integrate any mods, that way you can enable all installed mods and see if the game still crashes. It's never easy finding the cause of a crash, it could be load order, missing required mods, incompatible mods or any number of possibilities.

Edited February 8, 2011 by Grizzly_UK