darkciper5 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 hi, i was playing oblivion then while using obmm to soart out load order after running boss, all my files esm, and esp files for reset to 01-02-2006 and now some things just dissapeared from the game, don't know how or why that happened. game still starts and runs, but odd things happen, and things no longer work like they are described in the mod read me's need help with load order, i also used the oblivion content validator, maybe that messed things up, i am thinking of reinstalling oblivion, the main game, and hoping all the mods would work. also i got missing mesheses when i copied all the meshes into correct forlders. 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MarkInMKUK Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 BOSS uses the date and time stamp to set the order in which files load. They SHOULD all end up with the same date, and with increasing times from top to bottom of the list. (1) Check you have downloaded the latest masterlist.txt for BOSS, and have overwritten the original one.(2) Check whether there are any mods which BOSS didn't recognise be reading the text file. I notice you don't have a Bashed patch.esp - does that mean you are not using Wrye bash to handle mod conflicts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkciper5 Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 i was using Cybiades island mod, and i really liked it, but recently, the ship to that island dissipated, and all i did was run boss a few times and obmm to check load order, and the "top of the world" mod, the house is never there on the IC tower, and i don't know how to use wrye bash to handle conflicts, i tried to use it, but can't figure out how to actually operate it. i don't usually download a lot of mods after i start oblivion, i like to have all mods there mostly, unless i find something interesting, which i rarely do aside from the things i already have. date and time stamp, so it resets the date and time on the files?, why would the load order be different each time i add a mod? like the other mods get shifted around? ... what about the missing meshes bug? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkInMKUK Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) BOSS doesn't CHECK load order, it CHANGES load order - that's where the "Sorting" bit of its name comes in. In OBMM - have you added or removed a mod which had a colour that was NOT blue or green for the little square next to the mod name? If so, that's possibly where your missing mesh problem came from. Whenever you add a mod, it is added to the list with the date of the file in the archive. If that is before or after an existing mod, it'll squeeze in between them. When you use BOSS, it then changes that date to get the load order correct. However, BOSS does tend to assume you are using it with other files such as OBMM or Wrye Bash to handle conflicts, like where two mods both change the same texture file. If two mods have changed the same mesh or texture, and you then deleted one mod along with its meshes and textures, the previous version of the mesh or texture does not magically reappear, so you get missing meshes until you reinstall the first mod. If you take the time to learn how to install stuff with BAIN (Bash Installer facility) then that problem is greatly reduced, but I've yet to find a walkthrough for BAIN that didn't assume you already knew how to use it. Edited February 28, 2011 by MarkInMKUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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