Crash to Desktop (CTD) whenever I attempt at any form of the three saving methods.

[JefferyKoslov]

Hello.

 

So, last night I had finally decided to shut off my computer, rather than telling it to sleep like I usually do. I had been half-way through the Soul Cairn, and in the morning when I went to load up said save, it had loaded just fine but it crashed each and every time I tried to save. It irritated the hell out of me. I loaded the save previous to that one and it let me save the game from then on out. However, each time I saved, little did I know that I had just crossed a boundary in which something corrupted my game. (I shut off my computer because my anti-virus and anti-malware programs needed to restart my computer in order to finish updating. Before I shut off my computer, it let me save it just fine. Now it mysteriously crashes every damned time I try to save, whether it be a hard-save, quick-save, or auto-save. I have already created at least five other playthroughs in which I gave up any hope of fixing the problem and just decided to create yet another new game. This time I refuse to create a new game. One way or another I will get this problem fixed. No, my mods didn't seem to be an issue beforehand. All of my mods played properly and worked just fine.

 

As for my mod list, itself: (Total of 133, these are just my active mods.)

 

 

 

【Skeleton】XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended

A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads

Alternate Start - Live Another Life - Alternate Start - Live Another Life

Amazing Follower Tweaks - AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage_1_01

Amazing Follower Tweaks - AmazingFollowerTweaks_1_66

Animated Clutter

ApachiiSkyHair - ApachiiHelmetWigs_v_1_0

ApachiiSkyHair - ApachiiSkyHair_v_1_6_Full

Armored Skeletons and The Walking Dead - Armored Skeletons v3_1

Auto Unequip Ammo - Auto Unequip Ammo v5_0

Better Decapitation Gore Texture - BeyondTom New Decap Gore

Better embers - better_embers

Birds and Flocks - Birds and Flocks

Bloody Dragon Bones - Bloody Dragon Bones 4k

Book Covers Skyrim - Book Covers Skyrim 3_2 LEGENDARY - Desaturated

Burn Freeze Shock Effects - BFS Effects 3_6 - BSA

Burn Freeze Shock Effects - BFS Effects 3_6 - Dragonborn Dawnguard

Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-

Caliente's Vanilla Outfits for CBBE

Cinematic Fire Effects 2 HD - Cinematic Fire FX 2

Climates Of Tamriel - Weather - Lighting - Audio - Climates Of Tamriel - Dragonborn Patch

Climates Of Tamriel - Weather - Lighting - Audio - ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch

Climates of Tamriel - Weather Patch

Cloaks of Skyrim - Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2

Cloaks of Skyrim - Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2 Dawnguard

Convenient Horses - Convenient Horses v5_0

DCF_plugin-36125-1-3

Deadly Spell Impacts

DovahBling Jewelry -Rings - Necklaces - Bracelets- - DovahBlingReplacer CombinedPack v1_4_2

Dragonbone Ebonsteel Armor - Dragonbone Ebonsteel Armor 2-0b

Duel - Combat Realism - Duel Combat Realism 7 cleaned

Dynamic Things - Woodpiles and Barrels and More Oh My - Dynamic Things

Enchanted Arsenal

Enhanced Blood Textures

Fences of Skyrim - No more flickering fences - Fences of Skyrim - Barbed Wire Edition

Footprints - Footprints v1_00 - Legendary

Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival - Frostfall 2_6 Release

Guard Dialogue Overhaul - Guard Dialogue Overhaul

HD Enhanced Terrain - HD Enhanced Terrain PRO - Blended Version

HOPv - Horses On Patrol - Vanilla - HOPv(1) - 1_2

Horse Armors for Skyrim - Horse Armors v1_5

Immersive Animations

Immersive Armors - Immersive Armors v7_1

Immersive Armors for CBBE - TBBP - Bodyslide - Immersive Armors for CBBE

Immersive Beds

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul - Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul

Immersive Fallen Trees Mod - ImmersiveFallenTreesMod-v1-6SmallFix

Immersive HUD - iHUD - Immersive HUD - iHUD

Immersive Interiors - Immersive Interiors 0-2-5

Immersive Patrols - DLC Main Aggressive IP 2.0.3

Immersive Soulgems - Immersive Soulgems HighRes 1024x2048

Immersive Sounds - Compendium

Immersive Weapons - Immersive Weapons

Improved closefaced helmets - ICH_Optional chitin helmets with glass goggles

Improved closefaced helmets - Improved Closefaced Helmets (Legendary Edition)

INIGO - INIGO V2.0

KhajiitChild Maisha - Khajiit Child Maisha Additional Version

KJ Tattoos - Overlay Plugins for RaceMenu - KJ Tattoos 4K

LeanWolf's Better Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer

LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons - LeanWolfs Better-Shaped Weapons SkyRealism-Shiny patch v2.0.04

Legionettes - Legionettes v_1_0_3a

LiFE - Lith Face Enhancement -CBBE-UNP-UNPB - LiFEv11 CBBEv32

Luminescent Luna Moths - Luminescent Luna Moths

Main Font Replacement - Magic Cards Font

My little hatchling Ram-Ku-Argonian boy - main file

My little kitty Ma-Rakha-Khajiit boy - original-main file

NARC - No Animals Report Crimes - 0 NARC - Dawnguard and Dragonborn

Necromancy-- Undead FX - Reanimate FX v5 Update 3 Fixed

No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu - noboringsleepwaitmenu

OBIS - Organized Bandits In Skyrim - OBIS 2.01

Oblivion Gates - Oblivion Gates v3 Skyrim and Dawnguard DLC - Inigo Compatible

Oblivion Gates in Cities - Oblivion Gates in Cities

One With Nature - Dynamic Animals and Creatures - One With Nature

Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel-V3

RaceMenu - RaceMenu v3-2-2

Realistic HD Ingots - Realistic HD Ingots

Realistic Lighting Overhaul

Realistic Needs and Diseases

Realistic Paper - Realistic Paper MAIN

Realistic Ragdolls and Force

Realistic Water Two

Refracting Stalhrim CBBE UNP 7Base with optional transparency

RND Patch Pack

Roman Imperial armor and weapons - Additional retextures by JedJTL and SPQRLegate

Roman Imperial Armor and Weapons-10740-1-9-9

Ruins_Clutter_Improved_2-8-14227-2-8

Safety Load - SafetyLoad 1_2

Shadowmarks - Shadowmarks

Shooting Stars - Shooting Stars v1_041

ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer - ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller 1_3

Signs of Skyrim - Ragged Flagon fix

SkyFalls + SkyMills

SkyRealism - Shiny > NOTE FROM ME: (All files were downloaded, but it would be pointless to post them all as individuals in my opinion.)

Skyrim - Enhanced Camera - Enhanced Camera

Skyrim Child Overhaul WIP - SCO Dragonborn

Skyrim Child Overhaul WIP - SCO HD Textures

Skyrim Child Overhaul WIP - SCOverhaul V2

Skyrim Darkness Immersive corpse - Skyrim Darkness

SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators 1_38-10175-1-38

SkyUI

Solstheim Overhaul - Dead Edition

Splash of Rain - Splash of Rain v1_051

Stable uGridsToLoad - Cell Stabilizer

Static Mesh Improvement Mod

Supreme Storms - Supreme Storms for Climates of Tamriel 3_1

T3nd0s Skyrim Redone

The Skyrim Distance Overhaul Beta (S.D.O.)

Transparent wave spray Retexture by Pfuscher - waves 1.0

True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.5

Ultimate Spinning Arrows - Ultimate Spinning Arrows

Unique Booze Bottles HD - Unique Booze Bottles v1

Unique Border Gates - UniqueBorderGates-All

Unique Uniques

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch

Unofficial High Resolution Patch

Unofficial Skyrim Patch

Vilja in Skyrim - 1_ViljaVer4_01Full

Vilja in Skyrim - 2_ViljaInSolstheimAddOn_Ver2

Vilja in Skyrim - 3_A Vilja Custom Face for the CBBE Body

VioLens - A Killmove Mod

Vivid Clouds and Fogs

Wearable Lanterns - Wearable Lanterns 3_0b

Wet and Cold

 

 

 

Any help with this and the ability to get this fixed would be greatly appreciated.

 

- Koslov.

[CaptainPatch]

Just to be certain: The game _does_ start without any CTDs?

 

That many mods, I believe it's safe to say you use the Nexus Mod Manager. The checkboxes on the Plugins tab can be a very useful tool. Given that you get crashes at the exact same place, try this:

 

Ignore the check boxes for the Skyrim, Update, and the DLC .esm files. Uncheck about 1/3 of the remaining boxes and start the game. (You will get a message that says that the Save you are trying to Load relied on mods no longer present. Ignore that message for now. See if the game CTDs. Yes/No, note the mods you had unchecked. Exit the game without Saving. Recheck all of those boxes and uncheck the next 1/3. Repeat the procedure. Then again for the last 1/3.

 

If you are lucky the problem will persist with only one group of mod files. In which case it's just a matter of narrowing down just which one (if you are lucky) is causing you problems. Then just leave that one unchecked and go back to playing the game.

 

Unfortunately, with 133 mods installed, there's a large probability that there are several mods causing you grief.

[JefferyKoslov]

Just to be certain: The game _does_ start without any CTDs?

 

That many mods, I believe it's safe to say you use the Nexus Mod Manager. The checkboxes on the Plugins tab can be a very useful tool. Given that you get crashes at the exact same place, try this:

 

Ignore the check boxes for the Skyrim, Update, and the DLC .esm files. Uncheck about 1/3 of the remaining boxes and start the game. (You will get a message that says that the Save you are trying to Load relied on mods no longer present. Ignore that message for now. See if the game CTDs. Yes/No, note the mods you had unchecked. Exit the game without Saving. Recheck all of those boxes and uncheck the next 1/3. Repeat the procedure. Then again for the last 1/3.

 

If you are lucky the problem will persist with only one group of mod files. In which case it's just a matter of narrowing down just which one (if you are lucky) is causing you problems. Then just leave that one unchecked and go back to playing the game.

 

Unfortunately, with 133 mods installed, there's a large probability that there are several mods causing you grief.

 

A friend of mine over Steam mentioned that mods tend to have the ability to not show any problems until you're in late-game as he's learned the hard way with a 400+ hour character in Skyrim. So, I must say that sucks. I hope that it's fixable, because I do not intend to lose even more saves like this constantly. And yes, the game starts up and loads everything just fine, but whenever I try to save? Forget about it, I can't even leave my house without a crash.

Edited August 5, 2015 by JefferyKoslov

[Hallinskioi]

Do you use LOOT? Which is the most recent mod installed? Could that be giving you problems?

[jones177]

Hi

 

As saves get older they require more resources. They also grow in size.

I have over 250+ mods. My first save is about 8mb. my last save on a character is about 30mb.

The size & stability also depends on how many DLCs you do.

I use Skyrim as a fantasy simulator so I rarely advance the main quest past getting Breezehome. These saves stay stable(few CTDs) all the way through their life. The saves that go through Dragonborn are less stable. The ones that go through Dawngard are not stable at all.

 

Besides keeping a good load order you need to use a few utilities.

 

You need to use SKSE with Sheson's memory patch. My game won't even run for 10 minutes without it.

You need to use Skyrim Performance Monitor to see if you are running out of resources.

 

You may need to switch off your anti-virus and anti-malware programs while you play.

You may need to switch off some processes in windows. Google it.

 

Updates can mess with your game. I have all auto updates switched off. This year alone Windows updates have stopped my mouse from working twice. I had to use restore.

A video driver update allowed Skyrim freezes to take out my computer. I had to unplug then re-plug in my computer to get it going again.

 

Good luck with your game.

 

Later