Exalerion Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Hi there! I'm having this FPS problem that more people reported to experience that most likely has something to do with ELFX in the first place since the problem is often posted there. But the strangest thing for me is that the FPS drops (which I'm going to explain about below) also occur when I play VANILLA Skyrim!! So it is NOT mod-related I guess.. The older threads on the ELFX page didn't really help me out much so I'll make a new one here too. The problem is that sometimes in interiors, and rarely also in exteriors, I get this HUGE FPS drop when I look at certain objects or areas. In interiors I normally always have a solid 60+ FPS (Vsync). But when I look at certain objects or in a certain direction, my FPS goes from 60+ all the way down to about 10-15 FPS in the worst case!!! Sometimes is seems to have something to do with a lightsource, but a lot of the time also not! For example: I'm sneaking around in Castle Volkihar: Solid 60 FPS as always, but when I look at the center of a door (to an exterior cell) in the Undercroft, my FPS just drops to 20! (like wtf?) Or when I walk trough a small, dark passage with a few candles in the Undercroft with 60 FPS and then turn right into another part of that dark passage with a few candles, my FPS just randomly drops to a terrible 10-15 FPS at worst! The candles aren't causing the FPS drop, it's more like the walls, and what's behind them (nothing). When I just look at walls, my FPS drops to 10-15 at worst. Apart from RealVision ENB FULL for ELFX and ELFX itself, I don't use any other lighting mods. Nothing overwrites the ELFX meshes. AND YES: I've already tried the things in the sticky post on the ELFX posts page. I've also already tried these mods:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60603/?http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/32505/?But there are not Chandeliers anywhere near me when those FPS drops occur... 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Edited August 20, 2015 by Exalerion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exalerion Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Does anyone have a solution for this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm22112 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 HiTry this mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/32505/? Skyrim Project Optimization, works with ELFX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exalerion Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Thanks jpm22112, but I've already tried that mod too, and it doesn't work! (At least not for the FPS problems I have) :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm22112 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Hi againI remembered looking at this mod too (you have probably tried it) http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60603/?Unofficial Enhanced Lights and FX ELFX SMIM ENB fps performance patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exalerion Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) In my first post I said that I already tried that mod too, and it doesn't work.. But thanks again anyway! Any other suggestions? Edited August 18, 2015 by Exalerion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exalerion Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 BUMP Does anyone have an idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin1971 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I don't have time to go through all of those settings, but I have a couple of thoughts for you.One, did you work your way up to these settings, testing as you went? I realize you have a nice computer, but some of these settings are crazy high. Like fShadowDistance=15000.0000....shadows are one of the most resource intensive things in any game, and you're asking the engine to render (very high resolution) shadows almost twice as far as the "very high" default settings. Try lowering that to a reasonable number, see what happens. There are lots of other settings that you have set very, very high. The other one I'll mention is more specific; you have your fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS set to 2000. All your other Papyrus settings are default, so I'm not sure what happened there. This should be left at 500. If you Google for awhile, you'll find lots of people suggesting you raise those default values, but you'll find even more advising you to keep them at the default settings, especially the one you have set for 4x normal. Basically, even if there are no scripts being run, you're telling the engine to devote a lot of time to running them, which directly cuts into frame rate. Your slowdowns may have nothing to do with what you're looking at. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lackesis Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 use "Skyrim INI Manager" disable the "high detail reflection" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exalerion Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) I don't have time to go through all of those settings, but I have a couple of thoughts for you. One, did you work your way up to these settings, testing as you went? I realize you have a nice computer, but some of these settings are crazy high. Like fShadowDistance=15000.0000....shadows are one of the most resource intensive things in any game, and you're asking the engine to render (very high resolution) shadows almost twice as far as the "very high" default settings. Try lowering that to a reasonable number, see what happens. There are lots of other settings that you have set very, very high. The other one I'll mention is more specific; you have your fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS set to 2000. All your other Papyrus settings are default, so I'm not sure what happened there. This should be left at 500. If you Google for awhile, you'll find lots of people suggesting you raise those default values, but you'll find even more advising you to keep them at the default settings, especially the one you have set for 4x normal. Basically, even if there are no scripts being run, you're telling the engine to devote a lot of time to running them, which directly cuts into frame rate. Your slowdowns may have nothing to do with what you're looking at. Good luck! Yes, I've tested all of the settings that are (much) higher than default, to determine the visual/performance change. The reason for fShadowDistance=15000.0000 is to make trees in front that are a bit further away of me look much better. Trees without shadows cast on them look very bright, pale green. My shadowresolution is only set to 2048 (even 1024 right now), this is certainly not high. And the performance impact between 15000 and 8000 is only 1 or 2 fps average. But we're talking about exterior shadows here, and my problem only accurs in interiors, so it doesn't matter anyway. Lowering it to as low as 1500 doesn't help a thing. Most of my extremely high settings only affect exteriors. As for the fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000: since I have a pretty heavy scripted mod-setup, a lot of people recommend setting it to 2000, or increasing the BudgetMS settings. I don't know if this is truly helpful, but setting it to default (500) doesn't help a thing. But anyway, thanks for your thoughts on this! :wink: Edited August 20, 2015 by Exalerion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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