nicktheduke Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hi all, Been trying to mod Fallout 3 for the last few days but still having problems... Usually when I play Bethesda games, I prefer using a bashed patch and have little to no problems at all. However when I bash my load order for FO3 and try escaping from the vault at the start of the game, a few of the security guards have Pipboy gloves in their inventory. I can grab these from their bodies but they are missing icons (PipOS error 26) and simply disappear when I drop them to the ground. I know this shouldn't happen and it's a small error but I'm worried about playing any further and there be more items like this. When I use a merged patch, I do not have this problem but certain mods are missing from the merged patch which were included in the bashed patch. I've read that bashed patches are more in-depth and fix more issues. Based on my load order, I'm wondering if a merged patch will be enough to play the game without any problems OR do I need the bashed patch instead? If I do need the bashed patch, how do I fix the Pipboy glove problem and how will I know this won't happen again with another item/weapon/armor/etc? Please let me know. Thank you! Load Order (without merged/bashed patch): 00 Fallout3.esm 01 Anchorage.esm 02 ThePitt.esm 03 BrokenSteel.esm 04 PointLookout.esm 05 Zeta.esm 06 Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm [Version 1.9] 07 CRAFT.esm 08 CALIBR.esm [Version 1.4] 09 Project Beauty.esm 0A EVE.esm [Version 0.99] 0B FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm 0C Mart's Mutant Mod.esm 0D DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm 0E WastelandGuards01.esm 0F DarNifiedUIF3.esp 10 Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp 11 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp 12 CASM.esp 13 UPP - Pack 1.esp 14 UPP - Pack 2.esp 15 UPP - Quest Perks.esp 16 Dree Perks.esp 17 MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp [Version 2.0] 18 MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp 19 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp 1A FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp 1B FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp 1C FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp 1D FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp 1E FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp 1F FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp 20 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp 21 WeaponModKits.esp 22 WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp 23 WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp 24 WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp 25 WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp 26 WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp 27 WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp 28 LeatherBackpack - eng.esp 29 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 2A Fellout-Full.esp 2B Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp [Version 3.3] 2C URWLENB-002-Interiors.esp 2D UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp 2E Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp 2F waterfix.esp 30 HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp 31 RubblePilesFix.esp 32 FO3_WRP.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oubliette Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/09/Both-Both-is-good-GIF.gif?gs=a Bashed patches and merged files are entirely different animals, which is why some items are missing from your merged file that are included in your Bashed patch. There's no reason to not have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktheduke Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Hi again... So I'm wondering if anyone can tell me how to determine what is causing my FO3 to CTD? Is it my Merged/Bashed patch? Is there a crash log maybe? - I'm using latest ENB + Midhrastic 2.0 + FOSE loader + Fallout Stutter Remover + Merged patch (with no leveled lists) + Bashed Patch + MasterUpdate... - Only using 53 mods which I've sorted using BOSS... - I've made the .ini edits like bUseThreadedAI=1 + iNumHWThreads=1... - I've done pretty much everything I can find on Google and my computer should be more than capable of handling FO3... But the game keeps crashing randomly whether it be exterior or interior within an hour of playtime or less, so I'm having to use CASM to save every 3 minutes of the game... It's getting very frustrating... Can anyone help? + My Load Order: http://pastebin.com/C2KezGLX + My Merged Patch config (when opened with FO3Edit): http://pastebin.com/cyPuKYyD + My Bashed Patch config: http://pastebin.com/fWvRbfzH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acelogan Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Bashed patches and merged files are entirely different animals, which is why some items are missing from your merged file that are included in your Bashed patch. There's no reason to not have both.I've read multiple places, as well as seen mention in a few videos, that using both a merged patch AND a bashed patch can cause issues. Edited August 22, 2015 by acelogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acelogan Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hi again... So I'm wondering if anyone can tell me how to determine what is causing my FO3 to CTD? Is it my Merged/Bashed patch? Is there a crash log maybe? - I'm using latest ENB + Midhrastic 2.0 + FOSE loader + Fallout Stutter Remover + Merged patch (with no leveled lists) + Bashed Patch + MasterUpdate... - Only using 53 mods which I've sorted using BOSS... - I've made the .ini edits like bUseThreadedAI=1 + iNumHWThreads=1... - I've done pretty much everything I can find on Google and my computer should be more than capable of handling FO3... But the game keeps crashing randomly whether it be exterior or interior within an hour of playtime or less, so I'm having to use CASM to save every 3 minutes of the game... It's getting very frustrating... Can anyone help? + My Load Order: http://pastebin.com/C2KezGLX + My Merged Patch config (when opened with FO3Edit): http://pastebin.com/cyPuKYyD + My Bashed Patch config: http://pastebin.com/fWvRbfzHMy first thought is it's Blackened; make sure that Blackened is not included in the Merged patch, and then to place Blackened AFTER the merged patch in the load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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