String3rbe11 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Hi everyone first time poster long time lurker. I've downloaded a bunch of mods here (using Mod Organizer) and I'm having some issues. My load order seems to be correct, cleaned everything I could via TES5Edit, no rogue scripts in my save files (started a new games so the save files are quite small) and I'm still having problems. Which leads me to believe some particular mod isn't playing nice. The problem is every 2-3 minutes my game will freeze. If I try to enter a big city (say whiterun) the game freezes on the black loading screen indefinitely. I can have a guard throw me in jail to get into the city and that works, but the second I try to leave the jail and enter the city proper I get caught on that loading screen. And If I'm just messing around in the fields within that 2-3 min point my game will freeze. At this point I dont know what to do. Mod organizer and TES5Edit says everything is cool but obviously there is a problem I cant identify. So if any of you sages out there could lend a hand I would be eternally grateful - here is my load order: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDragonborn.esmFalskaar.esmApachiiHairMales.esmApachiiHair.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmRaceCompatibility.esmAzarHair.esmOblivionHairPackAIO.esmRSkyrimChildren.esmLCOA.esmSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esmNock2Tip.esmCompanionArissa.esmmoonpath.esmTravellersOfSkyrim.esmAMatterOfTime.espFootprints.espCharacterMakingExtender.espChange Follower Outfits Redux.espethereal_elven_overhaul.espConvenient Horses.espChange Follower Outfits Redux -- Dawnguard.espBetter Stealth AI for Followers.espFantasy Soundtrack Project.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espHelgen Reborn.espSNOW CITY 7.espTravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.espChange Follower Outfits Redux -- Dragonborn.espChange Follower Outfits Redux -- Hearthfire.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espSolitude Reborn.espUndeath.espHeight Adjusted Races with True Giants - Smaller Giant Edition.espArmor and Clothing for RSChildren - Playable Override + All DLC Patches.espBetterDarkBrotherhood.espRSChildren - Complete.espOBIS.espOBISDB.espCivil War Overhaul.espBirdsofskyrim.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espAnimallica.espLurking in the shadows.espAuroraFollower.espHolidays.espHebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.espEMCompViljaSkyrim.espEnhancedCharacterEdit.espSOTGenesisMod.espBirdsHFclean.espskyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.espInconsequential NPCs.espTheFrontier.espRaceMenu.espTrueStorms.espRaceMenuPlugin.espRun For Your Lives.espCloaks.espInigo.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espWondersofWeather.espRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espPurewaters.espRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espSkyUI.espTrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espTomahawkACIIIWepMod.espOrdinator - Perks of Skyrim.espRSChildren_V.espTrueBrows.espDW Commoners.espUFO - Dawnguard AddOn.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espDragonmournInn.espTheDomain.espUFO - Heartfire AddOn.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.espfallentreebridges.espSMIM-Merged-All.espiHUD.espmoonpath_questdata.espquest into the depths.espAdalMatar.espImmersive Patrols II.espKRUZIIK.ESPAgentOfRighteousMight.espDeadlyDragons.espGDRangerArmor.espHothFollower.espBijin Warmaidens.espSlavePackRiekling.espHothFollower UFO Patch.espLCOAUpdate.espPopulated Cities 2.espNock2Tip.espBeautiful Whiterun.espaciiibowandarrows.espTauriel The Hobbit.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.espConan_Hyborian_Age.espMzarkWonders.espsummersetisles.espRealisticWhiterun.espLight Elven Armor.espvMYC_MeetYourCharacters.espWolfFollower.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espErynielElfV2.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Edited August 22, 2015 by String3rbe11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin1971 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Could be a setting in your .ini files too. Have you changed them? Have you messed with your Papyrus values, for example? By the way, I don't necessarily think it's related to your current issue since this is a new game (?), but Skybirds has well documented issues. Edited August 22, 2015 by Corwin1971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
String3rbe11 Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hi, no I've never done anything with the .ini files or Papyrus values either. I tried disabling Skybirds and started a new game, using 'Live Another Life' started at the inn in Whiterun, tried leaving the inn and still the perpetual loading screen remains :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin1971 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Seems like a memory issue. You have a lot of NPC mods, which may have something to do with that. How much RAM does your system have? Not VRAM, regular RAM. So, you could try taking out some NPC mods (OBIS, Travellers of Skyrim, Inconsequential NPCS, etc.) You could also try Safety Load. I've never had to use it myself, but a ton of people vouch for it. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/? Edited August 22, 2015 by Corwin1971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaskos Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Safety Load causes CTD issues on the escape menu (confirmed myself) and sometimes other menus. I uninstalled it and replaced it with SMSE http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305 and have had no issues since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin1971 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Safety Load causes CTD issues on the escape menu (confirmed myself) and sometimes other menus. I uninstalled it and replaced it with SMSE http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305 and have had no issues since.SMSE was made obsolete long ago by updates to SKSE. Like I said, I haven't used Safety Load, but it doesn't "cause CTD issues on the escape menu", full stop. If it automatically did so, it wouldn't have 33,000 endorsements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
String3rbe11 Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 Hi, no I've never done anything with the .ini files or Papyrus values either. I tried disabling Skybirds and started a new game, using 'Live Another Life' started at the inn in Whiterun, tried leaving the inn and still the perpetual loading screen remains :confused:I have 8gb of ram. I'll try these suggestions with the unselecting some NPC mods and using Safety load and report back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaskos Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Safety Load causes CTD issues on the escape menu (confirmed myself) and sometimes other menus. I uninstalled it and replaced it with SMSE http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305 and have had no issues since.SMSE was made obsolete long ago by updates to SKSE. Like I said, I haven't used Safety Load, but it doesn't "cause CTD issues on the escape menu", full stop. If it automatically did so, it wouldn't have 33,000 endorsements. No it wasn't. Myself and numerous other people still experience infinite loading screens with the SKSE patch while we do not with SMSE / Safety Load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corwin1971 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Safety Load causes CTD issues on the escape menu (confirmed myself) and sometimes other menus. I uninstalled it and replaced it with SMSE http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305 and have had no issues since.SMSE was made obsolete long ago by updates to SKSE. Like I said, I haven't used Safety Load, but it doesn't "cause CTD issues on the escape menu", full stop. If it automatically did so, it wouldn't have 33,000 endorsements. No it wasn't. Myself and numerous other people still experience infinite loading screens with the SKSE patch while we do not with SMSE / Safety Load. Cut and pasted from the very page you link to: "If you're using the new build of SKSE that has support for changing the memory allocation values, you don't need SSME." If the set-up you have works for you, great. I'm a believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Having Sheson memory's fix and the recent version of SKSE may not hurt anything, but it's not doing anything extra for you either. A new user trying to get things working should get accurate info. Edited August 23, 2015 by Corwin1971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaskos Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) I am giving him accurate information. You two are making baseless accusations based on what you've read rather than what you've tested. I'm using the most recent stable build of SKSE, and without SMSE, I get infinite loading screens with a mod loadout that doesn't involve many texture/mesh upgrader mods. With SMSE, I no longer get these infinite loading screens. Next time you want to call someone's information inaccurate, make sure you verify it yourself first. Edited August 23, 2015 by Rhaskos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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