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Need help. Freezing in Skyrim (go figure)


String3rbe11

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Hi everyone first time poster long time lurker. I've downloaded a bunch of mods here (using Mod Organizer) and I'm having some issues. My load order seems to be correct, cleaned everything I could via TES5Edit, no rogue scripts in my save files (started a new games so the save files are quite small) and I'm still having problems. Which leads me to believe some particular mod isn't playing nice.

 

The problem is every 2-3 minutes my game will freeze. If I try to enter a big city (say whiterun) the game freezes on the black loading screen indefinitely. I can have a guard throw me in jail to get into the city and that works, but the second I try to leave the jail and enter the city proper I get caught on that loading screen. And If I'm just messing around in the fields within that 2-3 min point my game will freeze. At this point I dont know what to do. Mod organizer and TES5Edit says everything is cool but obviously there is a problem I cant identify.

 

So if any of you sages out there could lend a hand I would be eternally grateful - here is my load order:

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Falskaar.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
AzarHair.esm
OblivionHairPackAIO.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
LCOA.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
Nock2Tip.esm
CompanionArissa.esm
moonpath.esm
TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
AMatterOfTime.esp
Footprints.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
Change Follower Outfits Redux.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Change Follower Outfits Redux -- Dawnguard.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
SNOW CITY 7.esp
TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
Change Follower Outfits Redux -- Dragonborn.esp
Change Follower Outfits Redux -- Hearthfire.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Solitude Reborn.esp
Undeath.esp
Height Adjusted Races with True Giants - Smaller Giant Edition.esp
Armor and Clothing for RSChildren - Playable Override + All DLC Patches.esp
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Animallica.esp
Lurking in the shadows.esp
AuroraFollower.esp
Holidays.esp
Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
SOTGenesisMod.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
TheFrontier.esp
RaceMenu.esp
TrueStorms.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
Inigo.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
Purewaters.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
SkyUI.esp
TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
TomahawkACIIIWepMod.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
RSChildren_V.esp
TrueBrows.esp
DW Commoners.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
DragonmournInn.esp
TheDomain.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
iHUD.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
quest into the depths.esp
AdalMatar.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
KRUZIIK.ESP
AgentOfRighteousMight.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
GDRangerArmor.esp
HothFollower.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
SlavePackRiekling.esp
HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
LCOAUpdate.esp
Populated Cities 2.esp
Nock2Tip.esp
Beautiful Whiterun.esp
aciiibowandarrows.esp
Tauriel The Hobbit.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
Conan_Hyborian_Age.esp
MzarkWonders.esp
summersetisles.esp
RealisticWhiterun.esp
Light Elven Armor.esp
vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp
WolfFollower.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
ErynielElfV2.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

Edited by String3rbe11
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Could be a setting in your .ini files too. Have you changed them? Have you messed with your Papyrus values, for example?

 

By the way, I don't necessarily think it's related to your current issue since this is a new game (?), but Skybirds has well documented issues.

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Hi, no I've never done anything with the .ini files or Papyrus values either. I tried disabling Skybirds and started a new game, using 'Live Another Life' started at the inn in Whiterun, tried leaving the inn and still the perpetual loading screen remains :confused:

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Seems like a memory issue. You have a lot of NPC mods, which may have something to do with that. How much RAM does your system have? Not VRAM, regular RAM.

 

So, you could try taking out some NPC mods (OBIS, Travellers of Skyrim, Inconsequential NPCS, etc.)

 

You could also try Safety Load. I've never had to use it myself, but a ton of people vouch for it. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/?

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Safety Load causes CTD issues on the escape menu (confirmed myself) and sometimes other menus. I uninstalled it and replaced it with SMSE http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305 and have had no issues since.

SMSE was made obsolete long ago by updates to SKSE.

 

Like I said, I haven't used Safety Load, but it doesn't "cause CTD issues on the escape menu", full stop. If it automatically did so, it wouldn't have 33,000 endorsements.

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Hi, no I've never done anything with the .ini files or Papyrus values either. I tried disabling Skybirds and started a new game, using 'Live Another Life' started at the inn in Whiterun, tried leaving the inn and still the perpetual loading screen remains :confused:

I have 8gb of ram. I'll try these suggestions with the unselecting some NPC mods and using Safety load and report back...

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Safety Load causes CTD issues on the escape menu (confirmed myself) and sometimes other menus. I uninstalled it and replaced it with SMSE http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305 and have had no issues since.

SMSE was made obsolete long ago by updates to SKSE.

 

Like I said, I haven't used Safety Load, but it doesn't "cause CTD issues on the escape menu", full stop. If it automatically did so, it wouldn't have 33,000 endorsements.

 

 

No it wasn't. Myself and numerous other people still experience infinite loading screens with the SKSE patch while we do not with SMSE / Safety Load.

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Safety Load causes CTD issues on the escape menu (confirmed myself) and sometimes other menus. I uninstalled it and replaced it with SMSE http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305 and have had no issues since.

SMSE was made obsolete long ago by updates to SKSE.

 

Like I said, I haven't used Safety Load, but it doesn't "cause CTD issues on the escape menu", full stop. If it automatically did so, it wouldn't have 33,000 endorsements.

 

 

No it wasn't. Myself and numerous other people still experience infinite loading screens with the SKSE patch while we do not with SMSE / Safety Load.

 

Cut and pasted from the very page you link to: "If you're using the new build of SKSE that has support for changing the memory allocation values, you don't need SSME."

 

 

If the set-up you have works for you, great. I'm a believer in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Having Sheson memory's fix and the recent version of SKSE may not hurt anything, but it's not doing anything extra for you either. A new user trying to get things working should get accurate info.

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I am giving him accurate information. You two are making baseless accusations based on what you've read rather than what you've tested. I'm using the most recent stable build of SKSE, and without SMSE, I get infinite loading screens with a mod loadout that doesn't involve many texture/mesh upgrader mods. With SMSE, I no longer get these infinite loading screens. Next time you want to call someone's information inaccurate, make sure you verify it yourself first.

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