no1s Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Been trying to fix this for a few months now. I get CTDS after 5-10 mins of game play. I have cleaned the Master files and used Loot to do my load order GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Falskaar.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1Campfire.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1RSkyrimChildren.esm=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=1HighResTexturePack02.esp=1HighResTexturePack03.esp=1Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1Footprints.esp=1Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp=1Extended UI.esp=1BlackHorseCourier.esp=1AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1HonedMetal.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1NB-Scars.esp=1Differently Ebony.esp=1RSChildren - Complete.esp=1Bounty Gold.esp=1DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp=1SplashofRain.esp=1Unique Grasses.esp=1JaxonzRenamer.esp=1iHUD.esp=1AHZmoreHUD.esp=1ImmersiveSpells.esp=1NonEssentialChildren.esp=1PocketMoney.esp=1Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp=1RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp=1RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp=1JaxonzEnhGrab.esp=1RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp=1SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp=1Skyrim Radioactive.esp=1RealisticRoomRental.esp=13DNPC.esp=1Purity.esp=1Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1tox Alchemy Unlock Effects.esp=1Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1Rebirth Monster.esp=1LPBards.esp=1WSCO - OcciFemaleVNL.esp=1GarrettThiefArmor.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1NoRoadPredators.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp=1Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp=1TimingIsEverything.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1WSCO - OcciMaleVNL.esp=1YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp=1Civil War Overhaul.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1SBF All In One + DLC.esp=1WSCO - Better NPCs.esp=1Unique Uniques.esp=1Pre PaMa IW Patch.esp=1FAMP2.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp=0RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp=1SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1Windfull Skyrim.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1MoonAndStar_MAS.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Beautiful Whiterun.esp=1aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1skyforgedWeapons.esp=1HOPv - Horses On Patrol - Vanilla.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp=1Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp=1The Honored Dead.esp=1Cloaks.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=11nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1SeranaDialogEdit.esp=1SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Immersive Citizens - RRR patch.esp=1More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp=1RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1SofiaFollower.esp=1DarkSkyrim.esp=1Bear.esp=1RealisticWhiterun.esp=1ArtOfTheCatch.esp=1Equipping Overhaul.esp=1Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1dovahkiinrelax.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Master.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp=1OverflowingEnchant.esp=1Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp=1Dead Body Collision.esp=1PerMaDefluffedPerkDescriptions.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1real_dovahkiin_strength.esp=1SunRune.esp=1winterhold_improvements.esp=1CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp=1CWINPCImprovements.esp=1CWIWCIPatch.esp=1Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 1.esp=1 Any ideas? Thank you in advance ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm22112 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 HiLooking at your mod list I would say the trouble makers are Immersive citizens ,tried this and found it caused issues. Immersive creatures is ok if you have a light mod list but I had problems running this and revenge of the enemies together. Dawn of Skyrim all major Cities adds loads of scripted npcs and objects to the game which again in a lightly modded game works well but when you have other big scripted mods like immersive citizens interacting with it that then can cause crashes. I tend to stay away from scripted mods that change AI or add loads of extra spawns, follow the simple rule "just use one of each" if you think it looks like it effects similar aspects of the game that you have already modded don't use it! So if I you were you I would rebuild from scratch leaving out some of the mods I mentioned and test the game as you mod. I have killed my game many many times but following my simple rule I now run 170 mods with hardly any issues, it can be done! don't give up! Hope my ramblings are of some help to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg88 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 You need to run the Perma patch (\Data\SkyProc Patchers\T3nd0_PatchusMaximus) Now, i can't say for certain whether it's the source of your CTD but Perma needs that patch to function properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenWorldAddict Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) HiLooking at your mod list I would say the trouble makers are Immersive citizens ,tried this and found it caused issues. Immersive creatures is ok if you have a light mod list but I had problems running this and revenge of the enemies together. Dawn of Skyrim all major Cities adds loads of scripted npcs and objects to the game which again in a lightly modded game works well but when you have other big scripted mods like immersive citizens interacting with it that then can cause crashes. I tend to stay away from scripted mods that change AI or add loads of extra spawns, follow the simple rule "just use one of each" if you think it looks like it effects similar aspects of the game that you have already modded don't use it! So if I you were you I would rebuild from scratch leaving out some of the mods I mentioned and test the game as you mod. I have killed my game many many times but following my simple rule I now run 170 mods with hardly any issues, it can be done! don't give up! Hope my ramblings are of some help to you.Immersive Citizens doesn't add any scripts to the game. The mod author said that himself, so that mod isn't a problem. However if you read the mod author's compatibility article, you'll know that Skyrim Radioactive is not compatible with Immersive Citizens. Also Immersive Citizens and Revenge of the Enemies, don't change the same thing. Immersive Citizens changes the ai packages inside the cities, towns and villages of Skyrim, where as Revenge of the Enemies only effects all hostile locations. Go ahead and check the author's compatability article and make sure that every mod that you are using is compatible. With that said, Immersive creatures and immersive patrols both add new spawns and change the leveled encounters lists. You can actually turn off the extra spawns for immersive creatures though. I don't see a bashed patch in your mod list. Are you using one? For such a big mod list with many mods that affect the leveled lists, you should be using a bashed patch. Also, get skyrim performance monitor and make sure that you're problem isn't a memory issue, remember that skyrim has a memory cap and if it goes above that the game crashes. Mods that are script heavy and mods that add lots of new objects to the game consume a lot of memory. I recommend giving the Skyrim Project Stability guide a check through. Reading that has resolved a lot of stability issues. Anyway, getting crashes is always frustrating, so good luck in resolving it. Edit: By the way, Dawn of Skyrim does not add scripts. It adds npc's that have their own ai packages, but those packages will be effected by Immersive Citizens. Mods that add new npc's don't add new external scripts to the game. The definition of script heavy mod is a mod that adds extra scripts that run outside of most in game objects. These scripts run on a regular basis which can cause problems if you have too many ongoing external scripts running simultaneously. Remember extra scripts consume lots of memory. I looked through your mod list, though. It doesn't look like you have a lot of script heavy mods, so that may not be your issue. Edited August 28, 2015 by OpenWorldAddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1s Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Thanks for the tips guys ^^ going to make changes to my mod list now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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