Help with Papyrus debug log?

[kettering]

I'm experiencing straight-to-desktop crashes around every 30 minutes or so - sometimes more, sometimes less. They don't happen in a particular place, just randomly. However, I'm not too savvy when it comes to Papyrus logs, so I was just wondering if someone could help me decipher them? It seems to me like there are some issues with Footprints (which I've disabled just now; I'll test it out to see if that helps) and something to do with Convenient Horses... I'm just not quite sure what.

 

I don't know how to copy the slimmed down version of the Papyrus log from Papyrus Log Viewer, sorry. D: Here's a Pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/qLbM5C84

 

And my load order:

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

3 3 Dawnguard.esm

4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

5 5 HearthFires.esm

6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

7 7 Dragonborn.esm

8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

9 9 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

10 a Falskaar.esm

11 b Wyrmstooth.esp

12 c ApachiiHair.esm

13 d DynamicLoot.esm

14 e ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

15 f GetArrowsBack80.esm

16 10 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

17 11 SkyMoMod.esm

18 12 SPIKE.esm

19 13 TERAArmors.esm

20 14 Nock2Tip.esm

21 15 Extra Encounters Reborn - Basic.esm

22 16 Better Dynamic Snow.esp

23 17 mintylightningmod.esp

24 18 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

25 19 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

26 1a fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

27 1b ImmersiveSpells.esp

28 1c Moss Rocks.esp

29 1d WetandCold.esp

30 1e Player Size Adjuster.esp

31 1f SkyUI.esp

32 20 SkyTweak.esp

33 21 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

34 22 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

35 23 potions_poisons_0_1.esp

36 24 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

37 25 ETaC - Complete.esp

38 26 ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

39 27 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

40 28 ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

41 29 3DNPC.esp

42 2a Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

43 2b Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp

44 2c Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

45 2d Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

46 2e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

47 2f ImmersiveLoot.esp

48 30 TradeBarter.esp

49 31 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

50 32 Distant DetailHF.esp

51 33 SeabreezeEstate.esp

52 34 SeaPointSettlement.esp

53 35 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

54 36 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

55 37 ESFCompanions.esp

56 38 Immersive Whiterun.esp

57 39 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

58 3a Unique Places.esp

59 3b morninghood manor.esp

60 3c WATER DG + DB.esp

61 3d PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

62 3e Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR Patch.esp

63 3f PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp

64 40 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp

65 41 Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp

66 42 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

67 43 TheChoiceIsYours.esp

68 44 NoEyeAdaptation.esp

69 45 ImmersiveCells.esp

70 46 Cloaks.esp

71 47 HarvestOverhaul.esp

72 48 Run For Your Lives.esp

73 49 quest_thebiggertheyare.esp

74 4a ACE Enchanting.esp

75 4b RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

76 4c ImprovedFishBASIC.esp

77 4d 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

78 4e BabettesFeastBalanced.esp

79 4f Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp

80 50 HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp

81 51 CookingExpanded.esp

82 52 black mage armor.esp

83 53 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

84 54 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

85 55 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

86 56 Immersive Weapons.esp

87 57 Water and Wind Destruction.esp

88 58 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

89 59 ACE Archery.esp

90 5a Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

91 5b HigherLevelEnemies.esp

92 5c higherlevelenemies_dawnguard.esp

93 5d quest_nomercy.esp

94 5e SMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp

95 5f Serenity.esp

96 60 Serenity SeaPoint DLC Patch.esp

97 61 RevampedExteriorFog.esp

98 62 Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp

99 63 NoxUE2.00.esp

100 64 tos_amber_guard.esp

101 65 Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp

102 66 Extra Encounters Reborn - CSP.esp

103 67 Immersive Patrols II.esp

104 68 BosmerArmorMATY743.esp

105 69 Tame Beast.esp

106 6a Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp

107 6b Nock2Tip.esp

108 6c ImmersiveLoot - ImmersiveArmors.esp

109 6d Armored Circlets.esp

110 6e 1nivWICCloaks.esp

111 6f 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

112 70 DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp

113 71 DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp

114 72 DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp

115 73 DreamBurrowsSageOutfit.esp

116 74 DynamicLoot_DB.esp

117 75 DynamicLoot_DG.esp

118 76 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

119 77 ImmersiveLoot - Dragonborn.esp

120 78 Scoiatael Weapons.esp

121 79 Svartbough.esp

122 7a TERAArmors.esp

123 7b Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp

124 7c Lock Overhaul.esp

125 7d DeadlyDragons.esp

126 7e When Vampires Attack.esp

127 7f quest_seaofghosts.esp

128 80 Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

129 81 Weapons & Armor_FasterArrows.esp

130 82 FasterArrows.esp

131 83 FasterArrows75.esp

132 84 LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp

133 85 Proper Aiming.esp

134 86 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

135 87 Convenient Horses.esp

136 88 Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp

137 89 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

138 8a Unlimited_Rings.esp

139 8b tos_laintardale.esp

140 8c StaminaCarryWeight_25.esp

141 8d more summonables.esp

142 8e tos_granitehall.esp

143 8f Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

144 90 Disparity.esp

145 91 HillHouse.esp

146 92 ACE Melee.esp

147 93 DungeonQuestAwareness.esp

148 94 Chesko_Frostfall.esp

149 95 WATER-RND Legendary Patch.esp

150 96 HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp

151 97 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

152 98 ImmersiveLoot - Dawnguard.esp

153 99 AyleidSanctuary.esp

154 9a Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

155 9b quest_sorcery.esp

156 9c IngredientsOfTamriel.esp

157 9d More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp

158 9e Dragonbone Weapons.esp

159 9f Dragonbone Weapons - Faster Arrows.esp

160 a0 HolmwoodNahkin.esp

161 a1 quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp

162 a2 ImmersiveCells - Dragonborn.esp

163 a3 GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp

164 a4 Vellamo.esp

165 a5 ACE Armor.esp

166 a6 WATER Plants.esp

167 a7 Dogsofskyrim.esp

168 a8 BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

169 a9 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

170 aa ImmersiveCells - Dawnguard.esp

171 ab Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

172 ac Dread Huntress Armor.esp

173 ad WSCO - OriBetterMale.esp

174 ae Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp

175 af LoH 1.esp

176 b0 summersetisles.esp

177 b1 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

178 b2 Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

179 b3 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp

180 b4 Pre PaMa CCF Wintermyst Patch.esp

181 b5 Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp

182 b6 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

183 b7 Unique Uniques.esp

184 b8 Hedge Mage Armor.esp

185 b9 theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp

186 ba DisableRangedKillCams1.6.esp

187 bb moredragonloot.esp

188 bc ACE Synergy.esp

189 bd ScoutArmor.esp

190 be ACE Realistic Fighting.esp

191 bf ACE BYOG.esp

192 c0 ACE Magic.esp

193 c1 Wind Destruction.esp

194 c2 Brows.esp

195 c3 NUHairstyles.esp

196 c4 numenume Hair.esp

197 c5 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

198 c6 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

199 c7 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

200 c8 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

201 c9 RND_BabettesFeast-Patch.esp

202 ca RND_ETaC-Patch.esp

203 cb RND_USKP-Patch.esp

204 cc RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp

205 cd FalskaarRNDHotfix.esp

206 ce Cooking Expanded - RND Support.esp

207 cf Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

208 d0 BW Lydia.esp

209 d1 WATER Falskaar.esp

210 d2 calyps-bosmer.esp

211 d3 IridumEyes2.0.esp

212 d4 LoH 3.esp

213 d5 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp

214 d6 WSCO - Better NPCs.esp

215 d7 Extra Encounters Reborn - HSR.esp

216 d8 Extra Encounters Reborn - Dawnguard.esp

217 d9 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

218 da PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

219 db LockOverhaulandPerma.esp

220 dc ASG PerkusMaximus Patch.esp

221 dd ASG Apocalypse Patch.esp

222 de Dwemertech - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

223 df PerMa_USKP master patch.esp

224 e0 LoH 2.esp

225 e1 PerMa_Survivalism.esp

226 e2 UltimateDragons.esp

227 e3 Thunderchild - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

228 e4 EEO-Disparity Patch_nuska.esp

229 e5 ImprovedFishBASIC-RND.esp

230 e6 Water-RND Falskaar Patch.esp

231 e7 Archmage Crafting - Enchanted Items.esp

232 e8 Archmage Crafting - Unenchanted Clothing.esp

233 e9 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

234 ea ASIS-Dependency.esp

235 eb PatchusMaximus.esp

236 ec RaceMenu.esp

237 ed RaceMenuPlugin.esp

 

Thank you very much in advance!

Edited September 5, 2015 by kettering

[vram1974]

Read my sig.

[kettering]

I've cleaned my save with the program before (barring the last step, which I'm not keen on trying at the moment) and it hasn't really seemed to fix the problem. I stopped wearing items enchanted with 'hardening armor' and it helped for a bit, especially while inside dungeons, but outside I still seem to crash.

[vram1974]

You should try deleting your active scripts, see if it helps.

[kettering]

Aaaand that didn't do anything either. :( Managed to run for about 20 minutes and finish a quick dungeon, only to crash when I returned to the surface and got attacked by a dragon.

[vram1974]

Ok, I'm looking at your load order for the first time. Nothing jumps out at me as being a poor mod but i really think you're pushing your luck with 237 plugins.

 

Think about this. How many of those mods are script intensive? When you load the script cleaner what does it say your total number of scripts are? 14,000?

 

Your computer can only handle so much info at once, and even if your computer is good you're dealing with a scripting language that struggles when it gets overloaded. Your CTDs will drop if you remove script heavy load orders, merge plugins, clean dirty files (some from my steps 1-10 in my sig).

 

One of the first steps toward solving CTD insanity is to admit that pushing toward the 255 mod limit is the primary cause of instability. Can it be done? Yes. But it takes a lot of knowledge and proper load order and compatibility.

 

Try and think about mods you could live without or mods that could be replaced by more effective and efficient ones.

 

You can probably also remove several plugins just by using a TES5EditMerged patch (which you're supposed to be using with Perkus Maximus anyway, as well as the bashed patch you're not using).

 

That's just one example I can think of where you seem to have not read the owner's manual on the mod you downloaded.

 

90% of CTDs are caused by not reading the mod description for load order, compatibility and prerequisites.

[kettering]

Yeah, I've kind of figured that the number of mods I have might be an issue. I do have a very strong rig, but I suppose I've pushed things a bit too far. I was actually at 255 before and have already downsized, but with PerMa patches it makes testing which ones I can remove without issue a more lengthy process than I'm used to, so I'll admit I've slacked on it.

 

Also, I've read the Perkus Maximus mod page many times and no where does it mention that bashed patches - or TESEdit patches - are required. :S I've spent a lot of time reading about mods and working out load orders, though with as many mods as I've used, both currently and previously, there's certainly a possibility I've missed things. However I don't just slap mods together without reading a thing about them, and I don't often have problems that I can't fix myself. That being said, this is not something I'm extremely savvy about, so sometimes there are things I flat out do not understand.

 

Anyway, I'm going to bed now, but I will mess around with that tomorrow. Thank you for your help.

[vram1974]

Yeah, I've kind of figured that the number of mods I have might be an issue. I do have a very strong rig, but I suppose I've pushed things a bit too far. I was actually at 255 before and have already downsized, but with PerMa patches it makes testing which ones I can remove without issue a more lengthy process than I'm used to, so I'll admit I've slacked on it.

 

Also, I've read the Perkus Maximus mod page many times and no where does it mention that bashed patches - or TESEdit patches - are required. :S I've spent a lot of time reading about mods and working out load orders, though with as many mods as I've used, both currently and previously, there's certainly a possibility I've missed things. However I don't just slap mods together without reading a thing about them, and I don't often have problems that I can't fix myself. That being said, this is not something I'm extremely savvy about, so sometimes there are things I flat out do not understand.

 

Anyway, I'm going to bed now, but I will mess around with that tomorrow. Thank you for your help.

 

Granted I've only played PerMa once but I used a Merged patch and a Bashed patch as per the installation instructions in this video: