Help with "Viconia DeVir" (Voiceless)

[Kraphomus]

Hi there everyone!

 

I've recently installed the mod called "Viconia DeVir" and, somehow, she is completely voiceless (reinstalling the ESP or sound files doesen't seem to fix the problem).

Although I had some similar problems in the past (my oblivion version was the spanish one), I managed to solve them upacking the voice BSAs and changing the voice folders name to their english version counterparts. This time this doesn't seem to work.

 

If there's anything I can do to make it clearer, please, let me know.

 

PS.: Here is my load order

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  underdark.esm
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]
03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]
05  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
06  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
07  CURP_Controller.esm
08  CM Partners.esm
09  HorseCombatMaster.esm
0A  TRoN.esp
0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]
0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.1]
0E  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]
0F  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]
++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]
10  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]
11  Living Economy.esp
12  Living Economy - Items.esp
13  Cutthroat Merchants.esp
14  FormID Finder4.esp
15  Streamline 3.1.esp
16  DLCHorseArmor.esp
17  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
18  DLCOrrery.esp
19  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
1A  DLCVileLair.esp
1B  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
1C  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1D  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1E  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
1F  KohdiScimitar.esp
20  Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
21  DLCThievesDen.esp
22  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
23  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]
**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
24  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]
25  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
26  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
27  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
28  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
29  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
2A  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
2B  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
2C  KvatchAftermath.esp
2D  kingdomofAlmar.esp
2E  kingdomofAlamar_OOO.esp
2F  Sheogoraths_Accords_of_Madness.esp
30  OOO-TheNecromancer_Landtear_Fix.esp
31  TheElderCouncil.esp
32  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp
33  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp
34  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
35  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
36  DLCFrostcrag.esp
37  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
38  Knights.esp
39  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
3A  RTT.esp
3B  The Lost Spires.esp
3C  Blood&Mud.esp
3D  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
3E  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 7.3]
3F  TheNecromancer.esp
40  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
41  Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp
42  Elsweyr plantations & co..esp
43  Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp
44  Walkabout.esp
45  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6]
46  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]
47  CUO_Leyawiin.esp
48  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
49  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
4A  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
4B  xulTheHeath.esp
4C  XulEntiusGorge.esp
4D  TheNecromancer-EntiusGorge patch.esp
4E  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
4F  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
50  TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
51  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
52  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
53  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
54  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
55  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
56  Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp
57  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
58  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
59  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
5A  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
5B  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
5C  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
5D  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp
5E  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
5F  xulPantherRiver.esp
60  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
61  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
62  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
63  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]
64  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
65  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
66  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
67  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
68  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
69  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
6A  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
6B  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
6C  OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp  [Version 1.0]
6D  NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 5.0.1]
6E  BarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
6F  FightersGuildContracts.esp
70  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 4.1.1]
71  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]
72  Disenchant.esp
73  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
**  Dark Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  Dark Dungeons -  SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
74  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 3.1]
++  1em_Vilja_as_Custom_by_Xtudo.esp
75  UnderdarkSaga.esp
76  UdarkSagaFFF.esp
**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]
77  LandMagicPatch.esp
78  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

[chakaru11]

This is a total shot in the dark, but sometimes it helps to just open the esp in the CS and save it without changing anything. At least that helps with the english version of Oblivion, so that the esp automatically drops to the bottom of the load order and is practically one of "your" esps. Edited April 7, 2011 by chakaru11

[Kraphomus]

Tried, still no results... any other help would be deeply appreciated!

[Astymma]

Well Viconia, as far as game files go, looks for her voice in data\sound\voice\UnderdarkSaga.esp\High Elf\F\

I would verify that you didn't bash her into your bashed patch as a High Elf and thereby redirect her to the standard High Elf voice.

Also check to see if your udarksagaFFF.esp didn't do something either.

 

Oh, and @Chakaru, I wouldn't recommend doing that with any esp that has an esp master dependency or you'll break that dependency relationship.

Edited April 7, 2011 by Astymma

[Kraphomus]

Ok then, I've reinstalled a fresh versionof the esp, checked that the voice files were where they were supposed to and uninstaled underdarksagaFFF.esp: No results so far.

 

About what you said of "verifying if I didn't bash her as a high elf... can you please be more specific? how do I check/solve that? I started modding my game not so long ago, and I can't understand what you said (I'm still not familiar to wyre bash).

 

Once again, TIA!

[Astymma]

Ok then, I've reinstalled a fresh versionof the esp, checked that the voice files were where they were supposed to and uninstaled underdarksagaFFF.esp: No results so far.

 

About what you said of "verifying if I didn't bash her as a high elf... can you please be more specific? how do I check/solve that? I started modding my game not so long ago, and I can't understand what you said (I'm still not familiar to wyre bash).

 

Once again, TIA!

 

Well wrye bash, if you merge races, will collate all the races together to avoid *undesired* conflicts (if you check merge races when bashing your patch). I haven't looked at the Viconia esp in a long time but I know she uses the high Elf voice files released with the mod. My assumption is that wrye bash is smart enough to not redirect custom esp voice files but if the esp lacks any bash helper tags it just might redirect her to the High Elf voice directory instead of the esp's custom high elf voice directory. A fast way to check would be to copy all of her voice files from the custom directory to the game's base high elf voice file directory and see if she can now speak. It shouldn't harm anything to do so.

Edited April 8, 2011 by Astymma

[Kraphomus]

I've tried it and it doesen't work either...

 

Is there any way to manually arrange the folders in order for de ESP to recognise them? Can I track where does the ESP look for the voice files in the CS?

 

PS.: Have I mentioned that I DO have subtitles when I talk to her or when she talks to other people (I use Elys silent voice).

 

EDIT:After some time trying to understand how the CS works, I've found that this mod is looking for the spanish name of the voice files (Alto elfo), instead of the english ones, as any other mod of mine does. Still don't know why, but it seems renaming the folders fix it.

Edited April 8, 2011 by Kraphomus

[Astymma]

I've tried it and it doesen't work either...

 

Is there any way to manually arrange the folders in order for de ESP to recognise them? Can I track where does the ESP look for the voice files in the CS?

 

PS.: Have I mentioned that I DO have subtitles when I talk to her or when she talks to other people (I use Elys silent voice).

 

EDIT:After some time trying to understand how the CS works, I've found that this mod is looking for the spanish name of the voice files (Alto elfo), instead of the english ones, as any other mod of mine does. Still don't know why, but it seems renaming the folders fix it.

 

Well, I'd suggest using TES4Edit to check the files instead of the CS. It's a far simpler method and will show you exactly what overrides what in your load order. It's also a quick and easy editor for your esp's. It will also show you language conflicts in your esp's which will always show as an override of a default value. Since your installation is a Spanish installation, I'm assuming by default the "Imperial Market District" for example is named "Barrio del mercado de la Ciudad Imperial" and all the other locations follow the same Spanish naming conventions? If so, I'd imagine nearly all English-language mods will show a ton of overrides because all their entries use the English installation names. Do your path names of your installation also use Spanish words? The default location of a voice file is data\sound\voice\(name of esp or esm, Oblivion.esm for vanilla game voices)\(Race Name)\(Gender, M or F)\ so if yours are located in data\sound\voice\UnderdarkSaga.esp\High Elf\F\ that would be correct for an English-language installation... perhaps Spanish uses something like datos\sonido\voz\UnderdarkSaga.esp\High Elf\F\ ?

 

Edit: LOL, just noticed you found the problem and it was language oriented... glad you found it :) LOL, I even quoted your edit mentioning you found it... it really pays to read ;)

Edited April 8, 2011 by Astymma