Invisible Walls

[Duriel7]

Hi all,

 

Me again... I know, it's a pain.

So I got some invisible walls in some tunnels, like this one :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8y5uwXBKxs

But in one place called sewer I don't remeber what, somewhere by Dupont stations, between enclosed metal/wood covers, a door downstairs which leads to a two ways tunnel with supermutants fighting off Talons inside.

And another one passed the Arlington Cemetery, coming from Arlington/Wasteland Metro, taking the other Metro door, Arlington Services or something like that, passed a grotto after killing some raiders, there's a tunnel which comes to another little shrinked tunnel with bricks and ammo boxes, with two Mirelurks. Here, there is another invisible wall.

 

I tried disabling my mods which add places and cells, DC interiors, Georgetown Expansion and Into the Ark. None worked.

I tried to find a fix, but I found only one for Capitol Building, which I never visited in this game yet.

 

Also, this is my fourth game and I'm trying to visit all the little locations I used to skip before, to visit a little more and play as a tourist, funny way to say. And I'm pretty sure there were no invisible walls in my three previous games, as I visited the last one I spoke about, passed Arlington Cemetery. And I visited some other places without problems, here I can only say for these two, but I'm pretty sure I will find other places with invisible walls inside, and I'm not very advanced, as I am only searching my father who is in Vault 112.

 

If somebody can explain where do this bug come from, and how it is set in place, that would be so nice.

I heard/read that we can find maybe these walls in the GECK and try delete them, but I'm not sure what I read, maybe it's only bulls***.

 

EDIT : Some precisions : The doors after the Mirelurks leads to Potomac B14 something, to give the precise place.

Then, I tried trhowing some items to the invisible wall... weapons do pass throughout the wall, but not items like cans or milk bottles. Very strange. I can use tcl command to pass through but it's annoying doing that all the time :D

Edited November 7, 2015 by Duriel7

[Purr4me]

Googled...(http://www.moddb.com/games/fallout-3/addons/james-invisible-wall-bugs-remove)

pictures too. at least there is that copy left.

 

and it's no bull if I understand the sentiments?

[Duriel7]

Bad words are censored, that's okay, it's not very polite to say those, I'm sorry :D but you understood it.

 

Yeah I found this one too, I wasn't convinced by it. But Itried it and It didn't work at all. For my walls, I don't know for others.

 

Thanks for replying though.

[Purr4me]

Do any of the walls you experience..are they saved ? what I mean is, can you send me a saved game with the data at that spot so I can see if I can create the same issue using your saved game file...?

 

the problem is, what's running, how you ended up creating them and where they are in order to locate and eradicate them.

 

I can contact that author VIA phone and see if he is willing to update or grant me permission too update that one. I understand the theroy some what but even I can change the out come...move the walls around by mods load orders OR DLC placements.

[Duriel7]

Yep, I'll edit to put my file here.

 

Plus, I used the James walls removal anyways, just for prevention, and I just did the Big Trouble quest for BigTown, and, when I fast traveled anywhere, when I leave the BigTown cell even just walking, the game crash on saving, quick saving, or console command saving.

I tried taking my previous big save with this mod, it crashes in my Megaton house, when I load up without this mod, it doesn't crash.

I saw this http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/918428-fallout-3/61866318 thread, and the guy has James bla bla remover... I don't know if it's normal the game crashes with this mod or not, but I'm somewhat annoyed having lots of bugs I never had in the past... wtf is going on here... am I cursed or something ? :D big big mess.

 

Another thing is, since last time, I created another little mod just to up the HP given by some food and Nuka Cola, but that's all, I don't think it is the cause.

I'm pretty sure it is Georgetown Expansion or Into the Ark, because I had DC Interiors before and I never never never, I insist, encountered invisible walls.

Now, same as James Walls Remover, removing the mod post-bug doesn't change anything, the game will have this walls anyways, and, for James' mod, the game will crash anyways.

 

I can't and I WON'T ask you to do all that for me, I won't be able to thank you for that work decently. I'll just remove GeogreTown Expansion/Into the Ark in my next game if I have one, and I'll see if I get these walls.

But for now, I'll just take back my previous big save and redo another time Big Troubles for thoses weak guys of BigTown, and see if the game crashes really because of James' mod.

 

Maybe it's due to two mods I DLed (Imperfection creatures and Less Ammo - More Fun 2015 version) this morning to enhance my gameplay, but, if it was the case, it wouldn't have crashed taking my previous big save without those and with James' mod I believe.

It remembers me in Skyrim with the mod that adds camps all over the country, it crashed many times conflicting with I don't remember what, ended up deleting this mod. I believe all the mods that adds locations or modify locations, adding or removing things, are very tricky to use, in Bugthesda games.

 

I thank you for willing to help, I can leave you my yesterday evening save when I hadn't the three mods yet. I'll advance till the wall in Arlington Services tunnels for you to see the wall. The other if I can retrieve it I'll give the save too.

 

EDIT : Here's the save, you just have to try walk and see if you have the wall, for me, whatever mods I delete it is still here :

http://www.filedropper.com/invisiblewall

 

EDIT 2 : As I thought, when I redid the quest taking my previous big save, coming to Megaton or another places caused no problems at all, it was James' mod that caused the crash when save.

Edited November 8, 2015 by Duriel7

[Purr4me]

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Correctif - Base.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] RRCompanionVault.esm

[X] RR5MoreMales.esm

[X] RR5MoreFemales.esm

[X] RRGuards.esm

[X] HairPack.esm

[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

[X] Imperfection.esm

[X] Correctif - Fallout 3.esp

[X] Correctif - Operation Anchorage.esp

[X] Correctif - Broken Steel.esp

[X] Correctif - Point Lookout.esp

[X] Correctif - The pitt.esp

[X] Correctif - Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] RRWastelandPosters.esp

[X] RR Vanilla Companion Integration.esp

[X] GeorgetownExpansion.esp

[X] Newark.esp

[X] hair_add_npc.esp

[X] GrayWolf-CombatSansArmure.esp

[X] Armes WWII - Volume 01 Fr.esp

[X] Armes WWII - Volume 02 Fr.esp

[X] TS.esp

[X] medkit and toolbox respawn.esp

[X] Enclave Ammo Box Respawn.esp

[X] Ammo Box Respawn.esp

[X] Interior Resets.esp

[X] richvendors.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] Casier kits armes.esp

[X] Fallout 3 Better Food and Drink.esp

[X] Fallout 3 Better Armors.esp

[X] Fallout 3 Better Weapons.esp

[X] Classic Fallout Weapons BETA.esp

[X] ArmorDisguisesFR.esp

[X] RealisticBulletsWMKtracers.esp

[X] MaxLevelWorkaround-BS.esp

[X] MaxLevelWorkaround-HP-BS.esp

[X] SkillCheck - AZERTY.esp

[X] Less Ammo - More Fun.esp

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For one thing, this is what's loading in your game. most of these I do not use nor have, for another, your over "debugging" with debuger mods.

load order some what a mess. Currently this morning, there are no edit tools available to me here on the site...so i'LL WAIT till they come back online.

 

Jim's mod is not in this saved game so that Eliminates any involvements With "James Invisible Wall Remover V2"

[Purr4me]

I need a link to these mods (Correctif)

[Purr4me]

Are you "French?" because a lot of results are french language...I ask because there is a possible conflict from the engines being used there.

 

http://patches.bethsoft.com/

[Purr4me]

well now / seems beth went belly up on the patch links..hmm, two systems verified blank pages.

 

I'll ses what's going on...can't have games with out patches.

EDIT: (https://cdn.bethsoft.com/fallout/3/patches/1.7/Fallout3_1.7_English_US.exe)

 

there ya go.

kitty

Edited November 8, 2015 by Purr4me

[Purr4me]

tests conducted showed James Invisible wall remover does not remove that wall, due to it being outdated, there were other versions "V3" that were once online here but I was asked to remove it by the author,

 

Now the good news is "Last know Good filesComplete" has an updated version of that code with in it, I installed it and was able to proceed.

 

here is where things got messed up, the server location where the files were contained were reported as an attack site by those that received the files when asked.

 

Thus, James removed them so any links to them are null and void.

 

in that package contained the works of "Fallout3 Remastered".

 

the procedure was posted here BY me as to obtain them...but you can't any longer because they are gone.

I am only authorized to share the files according to the instructions I posted and no other manner, I am authorized to upload only in temp status for access, means you get only one click...after you have clicked on the file, they are removed from the servers as Ordered By the author.

 

This stinks...but you what stinks even more ? people not appreciating shared resources and ruining things for others. That program fixes your issue cold.

PM me as I posted.

 

search here "remastered"

 

sorry..no direct links here.

 

kitty