Martial Artists

[Marcus Wolfe]

I've just gotten off Soul Caliber II. I watched samurai and ninja fight. I want Oblivion to look more like that.

Nothing big, just change the attack/block animations (especially sword and hand to hand), give fighters some stances, other cool stuff. We have mods that give us samurai/ninja weapons and armor, so why not a mod that lets us fight like them? This might be complicated, but it's possible. This could, of course, be quest induced, to make it easier to choose between following the samurai's Bushido learning Kendo (swords) and karate/judo (hand to hand), or following the ninja's way learn ninjitsu (hand to hand) and using various ninja weapons, like smoke bombs and chainblades.

 

I am 5th kyu in Shotokhan Karate. I may be able to offer some insight, but other than that, Google and Wikipedia.

[ninja_lord666]

Ok, first it's ninjutsu. Ninjitsu it a common name for it, but it's really called ninjutsu.

Secondly, from what I hear, new animations are very difficult. Don't count on this being made.

 

If you wait, chris 07 is working on a mod that will incorporate samurai and ninja. You will be able to choose if you want to follow the samurai, or the ninja. Septim741 and I are helping him. However, it will not have new animations...sorry.

[Marcus Wolfe]

First, thanks for the ninjitsu correction.

 

Second, thanks for informing me of this soon to be mod,

 

but Third, why would there be no new animations? Being a samurai is not about the armor, samuari sometimes fought in very little when they were caught off guard. I could also say the same about the ninja. It's about having dozens of cool sword/hand moves at your disposal and so many enemies to distribute them on.

 

I guess i sound a little bratty, but I was expecting little more. PLEEEEASE could you go out of your way to give it some new animations? I'll find some way to pay you back/ thank you......

[Abramul]

While new animations could be done, they would have to replace the existing animations for ALL characters.

Hopefully, this'll be changed in V.

[ninja_lord666]

but Third, why would there be no new animations? Being a samurai is not about the armor, samuari sometimes fought in very little when they were caught off guard. I could also say the same about the ninja. It's about having dozens of cool sword/hand moves at your disposal and so many enemies to distribute them on.

 

I guess i sound a little bratty, but I was expecting little more. PLEEEEASE could you go out of your way to give it some new animations? I'll find some way to pay you back/ thank you......

Like I said, it's not very feasible. They aren't the easiest thing to mod, and, like Abramul said, they would replace all the animations. You'd have common bandits pulling off ninja-like moves.

[Marcus Wolfe]

oh, I see. Hmm..... maybe you should try the Mark leveling system:

You would deliberatly change everybody's animations.

Everyone's stating animations would be the same, but.....

When you level up in a sword/handtohan, you use new animations.

Whether these new animations look like samurai kendo and karate or like ninjitsu depends on stats

Strength, Speed, Agility, Blade, Hand to Hand, Athletics, Block: For both ninja and samurai, but strength more for samurai, speed and agility more for ninjas

Endurance, Willpower, Heavy Armor, Blunt, Speechcraft, Mercantile: For Samurai

Intelligence, Personality, Light Armor, Marksmanship, Sneak, Security, Acrobatics: for Ninja

I understand this would be extremely difficult. I do not expect you to go along with it. I will be very pleased if you do. I can help you with Samurai, regardless of whether or not you use new animations:

Samurai were an elite warrior class. There are two ways to become a Samurai. A) Be the child of a Samurai B) Prove yourself on the battlefield so that a Samurai adopts you. Everyone in the family of a Samurai was considered to be a Samurai, regardless of age or gender. Samurai were unlike other soliders, they had to supply their own weapons and armor, but were free from taxes. Samurai worked for the Daimo of their clan, who often was fighting other Daimos. The Shogun was the military ruler, and all Daimo had to report to him every few years.

 

I hope your mod goes well!

[Povuholo]

No new animations, but if it's ninja you want...

 

Link

[Marcus Wolfe]

Thanks but no thanks. I'm a Samurai kinda guy. Ninjas would be there for 2 purposes:

A)To add a stealth class to balance the Samurai warrior class

B)Because the worlds of Ninja and Samurai intertwine, as Ninja were often hired by Samurai for tasks he was to honorable to do himself, such as Assasination, spying and sabotage (those, by the way, should be the 3 main themes of any ninja guild/clan quests you incorporate in your mod.

 

Come to think of it, The Samurai armor seems to be lacking in Heavyness. THe ones we have now are ok, but there needs to be one other kind of Samurai armor. Y'know, the excessively large and glorious one? Like this:

http://t1.images.live.com/images/thumbnail...4178d3ef87427a8

or like this:

http://t2.images.live.com/images/thumbnail...24893e75207beaa

And, we need nodachies. A Nodachi is like a Dai-kantana, but even bigger. Here's a pic or 2:

http://t2.images.live.com/images/thumbnail...9c88e2603c4ca3d

http://t4.images.live.com/images/thumbnail...794d9350b035099

Yeeah, it would do as much damage as a war hammer!

[BranniganZapp]

could you not just add a race that is a monster add all the animation there and then make it pick able for a race if you cant edit the face or gender then make have equable masks that give the face and gender or have clothes as well this way all the animations would not bleed over to all the n.p.c. like the bandits ?

or in this case three classes of fighting hell this could be a work a round two weapons fighting as well.

but I digress I don't know if thats even possible. not a modder

and if did work can you Imagen all the mods just to have the cloths work for the monsters LOL

[Marcus Wolfe]

could you not just add a race that is a monster add all the animation there and then make it pick able for a race if you cant edit the face or gender then make have equable masks that give the face and gender or have clothes as well this way all the animations would not bleed over to all the n.p.c. like the bandits ?

or in this case three classes of fighting hell this could be a work a round two weapons fighting as well.

but I digress I don't know if thats even possible. not a modder

and if did work can you Imagen all the mods just to have the cloths work for the monsters LOL

GGAAHHH!!! bad grammar alert! We are in serious need of punctuation!

 

HAHHAHAHA!

Ok. that's out of my system. I've told Marco (From Marco's Samurai armor) To check this post out, and hopefully it should result in a new update of Marco's Samurai armor featuring overly large and glorious armor suits as well as nodachis.