CTD not sure why

[Darkomen43]

SO long story short ive been trying to start a new modded game fresh with everything and at first i started with some mods and my 1st person camera would shoot about all crazed. so ive reinstalled skyrim and mods a few imes now and now witha a few less mods and a few more patches i thought maybe id have it. I did not install any sneaking animations or joys of perspective this time around but...now i cant even get the game open. Ive been trying to get it running for over a week now and for the life of me i can not seem to catch a break. So i figured id post it all here and start a cry for help

 

Im useing LOOT, dual sheath patcher and wyrebash as well as generating FNIS after any changes.

 

PC specifications are Alineware M17

 

Windows 8.1

Nvidia GTX 770M

Intel Core I7-4700MQ 2.4ghz Quad core

16gig ram

 

My mods are as follows

 

MODS LIST AS ORDER INSTALLED THROUGH NMM HAVE NOT RUN ANY PATCHERS YET

 

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Dragonborn.esm
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
moonpath.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
WM Flora Fixes.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
Campfire.esm
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
AOM.esm
MolagBalsInferno.esm
ORS_SolitudeGate.esm
TERAArmors.esm
JSwords.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
SkyUI.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp
TrueStorms.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
Purity.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
iHUD.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp
DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Amaterasu - The Great Spirit.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
ELFX - Moonpath.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp
Grimy Utilities Interface.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
PumpingIron.esp
SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
SkyTweak.esp
Frostfall.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp
Footprints.esp
Vampirelordroyal.esp
Undeath.esp
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Skytest USKP.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
SamuraiEstate.esp
sjel blad castle.esp
winterhold_improvements.esp
VLCollisionFix.esp
RavenCastle.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
CCF_Revenge of Enemies_Patch.esp
AOM.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Heimfeigr.esp
FushiginaDungeon.esp
MzarkWonders.esp
EK_RingLimiter.esp
ABT - Bolts Renamed for BS and CCO.esp
ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp
ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp
ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp
ConvenientCrossbows.esp
-Stickier_Arrows- Fix.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
SeranaSecret.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
w2salem.esp
summersetisles.esp
FISS.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
HBetterBows.esp
ElementalArrows.esp
LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp
TERA Weapons.esp
throwingweapons.esp
UniqueBows.esp
KCEAssaultRifles_scope.esp
Dragonbone Weapons.esp
Inferno Weapons and Armors Set -The Arms of Hell Flame-.esp
ShieldsofSkyrim.esp
TearofAbyss.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
DeadlyMonsters.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
VioLens.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
VampireLordFlys.esp
UnblockActivateNoWereNoMap.esp
Better Vampires.esp
BVandRB_Formlist.esp
Nature of the beast.esp
Naruto - Overhaul.esp
jutsu.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
RealShelter.esp
RSPatch.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
AOS.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
AOS2_DD Patch.esp
AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp
AOS2_Purity Patch.esp
AOS2_FIO Patch.esp
AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
XPMSE.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
HarvestingAnimation.esp
FNIS.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
ISC PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
CACO_USKP_Patch.esp
CACO_Hunterborn_Patch.esp
CACO_USLEEP_Patch.esp
CACO_CCOR_Patch.esp
CACO_Campfire_Patch.esp
CACO_AlternateNames.esp
CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp

CACO_UniqueBooze_Patch.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
TrueStorms-Purity.esp
PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp
PerMa-Hunterborn.esp
ABT - Progressive Damage (BS and CCO).esp

 

 

Load order is (195 plugins Total) I USED THE PERMA ORDERING FOUND HERE!

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59257/?tab=5&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D59257%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D2213034&pUp=1

 

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
WM Flora Fixes.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
Campfire.esm
ORS_SolitudeGate.esm
moonpath.esm
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
AOM.esm
MolagBalsInferno.esm
TERAArmors.esm
JSwords.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
SkyUI.esp
FISS.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
iHUD.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
UIExtensions.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
WetandCold.esp
Nature of the beast.esp
AOS.esp
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Purity.esp
TrueStorms.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
RealShelter.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Undeath.esp
winterhold_improvements.esp
OBIS.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
w2salem.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
AOM.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
sjel blad castle.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Heimfeigr.esp
Cloaks.esp
RavenCastle.esp
SamuraiEstate.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
TERA Weapons.esp
Amaterasu - The Great Spirit.esp
Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp
Grimy Utilities Interface.esp
PumpingIron.esp
SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
SkyTweak.esp
Footprints.esp
Skytest USKP.esp
CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
VLCollisionFix.esp
CCF_Revenge of Enemies_Patch.esp
OBISDB.esp
EK_RingLimiter.esp
ABT - Bolts Renamed for BS and CCO.esp
ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp
ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp
ConvenientCrossbows.esp
-Stickier_Arrows- Fix.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
SeranaSecret.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
HBetterBows.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
ElementalArrows.esp
KCEAssaultRifles_scope.esp
Dragonbone Weapons.esp
Inferno Weapons and Armors Set -The Arms of Hell Flame-.esp
ShieldsofSkyrim.esp
BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
DeadlyMonsters.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
VioLens.esp
Better Vampires.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
CACO_AlternateNames.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp
ELFX - Moonpath.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp
CACO_Hunterborn_Patch.esp
Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp
Frostfall.esp
FushiginaDungeon.esp
MzarkWonders.esp
TearofAbyss.esp
jutsu.esp
Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp
Vampirelordroyal.esp
UniqueBows.esp
summersetisles.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
throwingweapons.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
VampireLordFlys.esp
UnblockActivateNoWereNoMap.esp
BVandRB_Formlist.esp
Naruto - Overhaul.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
RSPatch.esp
Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
AOS2_FIO Patch.esp
AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
AOS2_DD Patch.esp
AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp
AOS2_Purity Patch.esp
AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
XPMSE.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
HarvestingAnimation.esp
FNIS.esp
ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
ISC PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
CACO_USLEEP_Patch.esp
CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
CACO_CCOR_Patch.esp
CACO_Campfire_Patch.esp
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
TrueStorms-Purity.esp
PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp
PerMa-Hunterborn.esp
ABT - Progressive Damage (BS and CCO).esp
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

 

Edited January 13, 2016 by Darkomen43

[Purr4me]

235 plugins? um that's way too much hun.

[Darkomen43]

Aww fiddlesticks... Id suppose that would be a concern haha. Ive run over 200 mods at one point but they were all form steam workshop and most of them were small... unlike now. But im glad you said that,

went through them and ended up removing some high impact mods like warzones and a spell overhaul animmalica, ect. as well as some weapons/armour mods Turns out i had some comparability issues i missedas well.

 

I mean.....

Edited January 12, 2016 by Darkomen43

[Darkomen43]

Alright sorry for the double post here but. I updated the first post with my current setup. fresh install of all mods deleted them all form the data folder and deleted nexus mod managers virtual install folder and install info and then verified cache.

Reinstalled everything yadda yadda......game launches and I go to start a new game and CTD...

 

Very frustrated here...is it a compatibility issue...load order? wrong patches or somethings not patched...im losing my freaking mind here people!

Edited January 12, 2016 by Darkomen43

[Purr4me]

I would suggest you first run the game by it's self......before ever installing any mods.

 

First verify the game does "NOT" have issues with your PC...because there might be a problem there.

 

for us here...post your PC's specs please...under instructions as given, raw game runtime and zero mods installed.

 

if the game runs ? now you can install one mod at a time and test each one for CTD issues....here is why.

 

Some mods you may have downloaded may in fact be corrupted BY the download process..regardless of reasons.

 

looking for a needle in a very large haystack...this makes it easier to find.

 

1 at a time test run. tools used and how. we are not going anywhere.

[Purr4me]

we help those that help them selves....and if not, well it's frustration city.

[Darkomen43]

My apologies for not referring to the stickies of how to ask for help. I will update my first post here shortly with my PC specs and after doing a complete reinstall of skyrim i will run the game and give any details needed. I will also attempt to install mods 1 at a time until i find the bugger thats responsible. Strange I did not think of doing that myself...

I will post again with results tomorrow..err later today (1:48 am -7 Mountain time)

[Purr4me]

12:57 PST here. most people get it done in an hour or so. it's a mess, all the massivly different systems and headaches involved.

I have a brand new bottle of Excedrin. I'm ready.

[Purr4me]

I like the tunes but, it eats bandwidth here ,at least it does for me anyways. I use cell technology to connect to the networks. every page load cost me money. please remove the graphics.

tablets have small amounts of room.

[Purr4me]

Your machine meets requirements. More than enough power, so it is a software issue.