CrusaderX Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Ah yes, that actually clears quite a bit up, thanks. One thing I forgot to mention is that I moved Fo4 from my regular harddrive to my SSD, as well as NMM.I thought I had gotted away with it.... :/ Edited January 20, 2016 by CrusaderX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusaderX Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 No, uninstall, not just deactivate, that's why you do not delete the NMM folder if you put it there. When you setup NMM you had to set a few file paths, one was where downloaded mods should be stored. Should be the same hd but a folder outside of steam or wherever your fallout is. NMM installs the mod from that folder and even if you uninstall the game the mods will still be there, ready to be installed again when you reinstalled the game. If you do not uninstall them before deleting fallout, NMM thinks they are still installed. Hopes this makes some sense, if in doubt also look at the S.T.E.P. Wiki. It has an extensive discription what to do and how to before installing mods. Will save you a lot of frustration. Not sure if they updated for FO4 but anything that applies to Skyrim, applies to FO4 Ok, I just got done backing everything up and then uninstalled all the mods using NMM, but I still have quite a few files in the plugins tab. Is this something that needs my attention (Or rather your's, because I have no idea what I sould do if it is something important)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilibran Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Those are probably leftover from when you moved NMM to SSD, NMM still thinks those esp's are active or sees them in the Data folder i think. Go to the Fallout 4 Data folder, should look something like > \Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data (or use the Open folder icon in NMM, should give you the option to open the game folder, NMM Mod folder and NMM install info folder) And see if there are any esp files. Probably not unless, did you install any mods manually? if so those mods will not be uninstalled by NMM and you will have to re-download those. If you are 100% sure you uninstalled all mods in NMM and NMM does not store the downloaded mod files in the Fallout 4 steam map (some people inadvertantly set it up incorrect), you can uninstall the game via steam, delete the FO4 folder with any left behind files (Also check the FO4 folder under mygames delete that once you backed up the old savegames, Then do a fresh installation, start the game once, make those 2 vanilla savegames (back them up to), then try one of your old saves and start reactivating mods as i described earlier. Most importantly is to check that NMM is installed correctly, You can find all your downloaded mods in the folder > Nexus Mod Manager\Fallout4\Mods There you will see all the zipfiles of the mods you downloaded and they should be safe, ready te be installed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuJooGuppy Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I am sorry, but I find it silly to say things like "Bethesda wont be getting any of my money in the future!" about an issue caused by modding. The thing is, not only is a mod & user created issue, thus not even Bethesda's fault, its even MORE not their fault as you are using mods created WITHOUT their official tools and official support - meaning you are modding the game in a make shift manner.. You should be fully prepared for it to result in save corruption / game issues, and not even remotely blame Bethesda. This isnt to say FO4 is bug free and perfect, but you are blaming them for a fire you lit the match and poured the gasoline on o.O Just silly sir. You at least have a save that isnt too far back that works. I always backup saves :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusaderX Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Those are probably leftover from when you moved NMM to SSD, NMM still thinks those esp's are active or sees them in the Data folder i think. Go to the Fallout 4 Data folder, should look something like > \Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 4\Data (or use the Open folder icon in NMM, should give you the option to open the game folder, NMM Mod folder and NMM install info folder) And see if there are any esp files. Probably not unless, did you install any mods manually? if so those mods will not be uninstalled by NMM and you will have to re-download those. If you are 100% sure you uninstalled all mods in NMM and NMM does not store the downloaded mod files in the Fallout 4 steam map (some people inadvertantly set it up incorrect), you can uninstall the game via steam, delete the FO4 folder with any left behind files (Also check the FO4 folder under mygames delete that once you backed up the old savegames, Then do a fresh installation, start the game once, make those 2 vanilla savegames (back them up to), then try one of your old saves and start reactivating mods as i described earlier. Most importantly is to check that NMM is installed correctly, You can find all your downloaded mods in the folder > Nexus Mod Manager\Fallout4\Mods There you will see all the zipfiles of the mods you downloaded and they should be safe, ready te be installed again. Yea, seems like the files left over mods are there (esp files).But since I already backed up that folder, I should be able to just delete it completely, right?Because there are some files in there which are not ESPs. I am sorry, but I find it silly to say things like "Bethesda wont be getting any of my money in the future!" about an issue caused by modding. The thing is, not only is a mod & user created issue, thus not even Bethesda's fault, its even MORE not their fault as you are using mods created WITHOUT their official tools and official support - meaning you are modding the game in a make shift manner.. You should be fully prepared for it to result in save corruption / game issues, and not even remotely blame Bethesda. This isnt to say FO4 is bug free and perfect, but you are blaming them for a fire you lit the match and poured the gasoline on o.O Just silly sir. You at least have a save that isnt too far back that works. I always backup saves :smile: I overreacted, which is hopefully at least a bit understandable (100 hours is a lot of time). I was just very surprised that a game as simple as Fallout 4 would react in such a way to a simple texture mod, when in other games deleting and adding code was completely fine. Edited January 22, 2016 by CrusaderX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuJooGuppy Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Oh, over reacting is understandable, its also why I didnt call you names aside from being 'silly' :P. I can understand the frustration. And I dont argue one bit that bethesda games are quite buggy lol, the oddest things can send them into a bad bad place. Glad it seems like you at least are getting to the source of the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusaderX Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Does Fallout 4 detect any saves automatically, even if they are on another harddrive?I deleted everything from the original folders after doing the backups, but now that I reinstalled it, I can still access all the saves. No files were left in the folder on my initial harddrive, nothing on my SSD (which is where I moved the files a while ago) and I removed the My Games Fallout 4 folder as well. Just checked it, the game automatically restores the saves folder in My documents > My Games and adds all the saves from my backup folder. I tried disabling the Steam Cloud automated update function now and will re-install Fo4 another time.I have a feeling that it could work now. Edited January 22, 2016 by CrusaderX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusaderX Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 OK, folders are cleaned and Fo4 does not remember my saves. Will do the rest of what was suggested on page 1 tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuJooGuppy Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The saves returning is normally steam cloudsync restoring them... when i reformated, it restored some really old saves (I normally play offline, so cloud only had a few saves) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusaderX Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 If it still CTD's Start activating all mods one by one, start the game loading one of those two "vanilla" saves untill it crashes or not. If it crashes check for known issues/conficts/loadorder for the last activated mod, dl any compatibility patches if there are any. If there are no compatibilty patches and loadorder does'nt matter then leave it unchecked. If it conficts with another mod, decide which one you want to keep. Once you have all mods you had previously activated, and the game does not CTD on those vanilla saves, you can try loading one of the old ones and hope it does not crash again. It's a tedious, time consuming job, but your only option to try to save your progress and get as much modded content back. All right, game is installed completely fresh, not a single old file in any of the new folders. The saves which worked before still work, but the 70% which cause the game to crash still do just that, in exactly the same way. But with all the mods I used to run, I really don't feel like putting in all the time to attempt to fix this anytime soon.Thanks a lot anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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