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I used to have way more mods than this back in the day, so I don't know exactly what the issue is here. But anyway....

 

P.S. I'd add it as something right within my post, but, I have no idea how.

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This is how to do this...

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Armamentarium.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Evantal's Dual Wielding.esp

ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp

15_classes_v1_0.esp

HTS.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

HTS-WithMessages.esp

Knights.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

tkHairPack01.esp

ArmamentariumVendors.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Living Economy.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Respawn_Week.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp

OOO-Level_Normal.esp

OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp

OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp

OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp

OOO-Potions.esp

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp

OOO-BirthSigns.esp

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp

OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp

Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp

Birthsigns Expanded.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

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Edit after looking over: As for your possible mod problem.

You should deactivate the MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp because you have it in your beautifullpeople mod. Personally I think DR Combat moves should be loaded before times block.

Also, have you run BOSS? (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516) <- BOSS

If you run it you should post it's list in a spoiler box as well. It gives you notes on the mods.

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Hey Yami, thanks so much for these tips. I'm going to try them out and see what happens. Again, appreciate the help. I'll keep you posted.

 

 

Ok, so after running BOSS and deselecting MaleBodyReplacerV4 I still CTD. But as asked, these are the notes from BOSS.

 

 

Special Mod Detection

FCOM not detected.

OOO detected.

Better Cities detected.

 

 

Recognised And Re-ordered Mod Files

Oblivion.esm

 

Note: Masterlist Revision: 2638

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.Spells, Graphics, Invent, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}

Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.1]

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Relev}}

Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.5]

 

HorseCombatMaster.esm

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: "http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537"

Note: Recommend installing UOP Supplemental for additional fixes: "http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710"

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Note: For russian version GOTY please move this esp before Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp (for UOP quest fixes).

Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]

Note: Dummy file to load Better Cities .BSA

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version.

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

Living Economy.esp [Version 3.62]

Note: Don't use 'Living Economy' and 'Living Economy - SI' together. Pick one.

Living Economy - Items.esp [Version 3.62]

Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

 

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Body-M}}

Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp [Version 432558]

 

ArmamentariumVendors.esp [Version 1.0]

Incompatible with: newer 'Armamentarium Complete' version. Consider updating.

Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 9.6]

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, R.ChangeSpells, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.32.Final]

 

OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.32.Final]

 

OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.32.Final]

 

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-Birthsigns.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-Dangerous_traps.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-Potions.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp [Version 1.33]

OOO Specific Note: Don't use with the FULL version of OOO, already included.

OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33]

 

ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp

Incompatible with: Better Cities.

Scribe Supplies.esp

Note: Not Better Cities compatible. Already included in Better Cities IC Market District.

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

 

Knights.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages, Factions}}

Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Note: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal.

Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Graphics, Scripts}}

Note: Make sure you have v3.0.1 or later, which removes a CTD bug with the Harrada root.

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

 

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"

Birthsigns Expanded.esp [Version 3.21.]

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Names}}

Note: May be a bit imbalanced when used with Race Balancing Project

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Relations, Invent}}

MidasSpells.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Invent}}

Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

Note: Use no more than one Timed Block plugin.

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

Note: Use no more than one Timed Block plugin.

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

Note: Use no more than one Timed Block plugin.

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Note: See "http://omploader.org/vMmJlbA/DRtestfix.zip" for a hotfix for CTD issues.

Note: Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide"

OOO-Level_Normal.esp [Version 1.33]

 

tkHairPack01.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Hair}}

Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Eyes}}

Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, Body-M, Graphics}}

Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.9.5]

 

Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.9.5]

 

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.9.5]

 

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.9.1]

Note: Only use if using Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 4.9.0]

 

Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp [Version 4.9.5]

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages}}

HTS.esp

 

OOO-Respawn_Week.esp [Version 1.33]

Note: Respawn mod

Note: Use only one Respawn or Timescale mod

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH:Sound, Graphics}}

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

Unrecogised Mod Files

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

 

Unknown mod file: Evantal's Dual Wielding.esp

 

Unknown mod file: 15_classes_v1_0.esp

 

Unknown mod file: HTS-WithMessages.esp

 

Unknown mod file: witcherarmor.esp

 

 

 

Done.

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When does it CTD? Immediately? On load screen? when you do something in particular? After a set time? Randomly while playing? In a specific location?

 

Is it a CTD or other type crash? CTD (Crash To Desktop) means the game just dumped you back to your desktop. However, many people have begun to use it as a generic term for any kind of crash. Which makes figuring it out more difficult as different types of crash are caused by entirely different things.

 

The most common crash I have seen while playing is the black screen crash. where you get a black screen and block of text saying that Oblivion has crashed - you have to Ctrl-Alt-Del and close Oblivion to recover. Most often after playing for well over an hour - usually caused by the RAM memory leak bug in the Game engine.

 

A true CTD, usually happens when the game is loading, it flashes a black block in the upper left corner and just returns you to your desktop with no message. Most often from a mod that requires a missing master or a mod needing OBSE when it is not loaded first.

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It looks like you have Wrye Bash, so here's something else to try.

 

Here's an example from my modlist. (Note: I have been getting CTDs as well.)

 

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/Kai-Ryu/Wrye.png

 

The plugin for battlehorn that is highlighted is dis-selected because of the master highlighted in red. It's missing a master. You might want to check in Wrye for any of these

 

Notice the different text color of the mods underlined in blue. That means they are merged with the Bashed patch. They should be deactivated as they will run through the patch.

 

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/Kai-Ryu/WryeRebuild01.png

 

This is how you make a bashed patch, just right click your current Bashed patch and click the "Rebuild Patch" button that I highlighted in turquoise.

 

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/Kai-Ryu/WryeRebuild02.png

 

After that you should not get this right away, you should get a list and it will tell you which mods can be merged, then this. Don't touch anything in the black area unless you read up on what they do. But click the turquoise highlighted button.

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Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. So here's where we are at right now.

 

Firstly, it was an immediate CTD. The game wouldn't even hit the Bethesda logo. However I found the culprit, it was that I had Harvest Flora checked off for DLC's I don't have. Once deselected, it was taken care of and I could get in the game. However, I know have a whole new bag of problems! Upon getting out into the Imperial City, the first thing I was struck with was that every single NPC had black, soul less little eyes. I did as well, but I had Cernasites Dragon Eyes mod, but I'm not sure if it's that, or what mod is causing the default eyes to be black.

 

After that I saw floating heads with the big WTF!? I'M A MISSING MESH! yellow tag. At this point, I had OOO light running, so what I did is I re-installed OOO but did the full version and deleted and recreated the 1.33 OMOD patch. Once I did that, I went back into the game. Normal soldiers look fine, I go up to the Imperial City center to look at the royal guard; the male version is fine, but the female is missing her whole body. Also, everyone still has black eyes. I did also see one other yellow missing mesh tag. It was above a guards head who was stationary at a City doorway, when I opened the console to click on it, it simply said "Wilderness of Cyrodil" whatever that means. So, after re-installing OOO and using it in full, female royal guard torsos are missing, and I have a missing mesh for "Wilderness of Cyrodiil".

 

This is all so far... I haven't even explored any tombs, caves, or any other cities. All these issues are taking the wind outta my sails :-/

 

EDIT: I will post a screen of what things look like in Wrye Bash. I used BOSS to try and eliminate any mods running in the same boot order, but, hasn't seemed to work.

 

 

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d21/Newbs85/loadorder.jpg

 

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Mods like Andragorn_Weapons_Armor could cause mesh issues. Try redownloading the mod and copying the meshes over, or rebuilding the OMOD (If you use an OMOD version). This is the same for body replacers, try reinstalling them.

Black eyes tend to come from cosmetic mods that change the default eyes. You could try replacing the default meshes from your Oblivion DVD. Or you could try a default eye replacer. That's worked for me when I had a black eyes issue.

 

Edit: Not just Andragorn, any mod that replaces meshes.

Edited by YamiKai
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