how improve Fps?

[Jodi79]

I have an intel dx58so, intel Core i7, a radeon hd 4870 1Gb and 4 Gb ram (but my winxp read just 3.26..drty bstrd :verymad:! )...and a swarm of mod (and i would not give up any...rather increase them :turned: : it's not my fault! is the community that upload better mod every time i think reach the point!!!! just abdicate mtaevwd with hig texture to a common raevwd..and it's make me gnaw).

 

I use Boss, so my load order should be good: cleaned with Tesedit, merged in bashed patch with Wryebash, when requested..and i don't know anything about computer(moreover my english is....well, i think "is not" should be more correct), so immagine the pain to learn the use them.

 

i use Obse with stutter remover, pluggy, sound command, ench. music control, menuque, elys universal silent.

 

There some trick to improve Fps? or suggestion about how i shall improve my cpu(skyrim is coming..) with out sell my kidney?

 

here my mod list from wrye

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

02 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.9.5]

03 BetterMusicSystem.esm

04 bookplacing.esm [Version 1]

05 ShieldOnBack.esm [Version 3.4.1]

++ Anti-amulet cover.esp

06 TNR - THE IMPERIALS.esp

07 TNR - THE BRETONS.esp

08 TNR - THE ALTMER.esp

09 TNR - THE NORDS.esp

0A TNR - THE ORCS.esp

0B TNR - THE KHAJIIT.esp

0C TNR - THE ARGONIANS.esp

0D TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

0E TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp

0F Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.5]

10 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

11 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

12 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

13 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.2]

++ SI Powers Adjustment.esp

** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp

** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp

** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp

** TNR ALL RACES FINAL Vwalk UOS.esp

14 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]

++ _darker_nights.esp

15 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

16 Ls More Butterflies and Fireflies Not In Interiors Without Fairies 5.0.esp

17 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp

18 Weather Inside.esp

19 Rainbows.esp

++ Better Torches.esp

1A IWR-Lights.esp

1B WindowLightingSystem.esp

1C Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

1D ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

1E ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

1F CityLights - ImperialCity.esp

20 Better Camps.esp

21 DID3_DoubleTrouble.esp

22 Fishing in Cyrodiil.esp

++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]

++ FGPorter_nofollow.esp

++ Essential_Trainers.esp

23 Light Sleepers v1.0.esp

24 More Female Servants.esp [Version 1.10]

25 BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp [Version 1.0]

26 personality_idles4_nopc.esp

++ P1DlookAtShrines.esp

27 Camping.esp

28 RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.9]

29 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7]

2A RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.9]

++ Regrowing Nirnroot - Normal Plant.esp [Version 1.01]

2B RMShieldOnBack.esp

++ Guard Torches.esp

++ ValuableSigilStone.esp

2C Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.2.2]

2D Bard of Cyrodiil 2.0.esp

2E Street_Sweepers.esp

2F Crowded Cities 15.esp

** Crowded Cities 15 Vwalk.esp

30 Crowded Roads 15.esp

** Crowded Roads 15 Vwalk.esp

31 Populated Prisons.esp

32 Get Wet.esp

33 P1DlookHereYou.esp

34 Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp

35 DenockArrowToo.esp

36 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9]

37 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5]

38 DLCHorseArmor.esp

39 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

3A DLCOrrery.esp

3B DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp

3C DLCVileLair.esp

3D DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

3E DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

3F DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp

40 DLCSpellTomes.esp

++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

41 Book Jackets DLC.esp

42 GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp

43 KDClothCirclets.esp

44 Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp

45 Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp

46 Colourwheels Sexy SI Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp

47 DLCThievesDen.esp

48 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

49 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]

** DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp

4A Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

4B Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]

4C FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp [Version 1.4]

4D Diverse Imperial Armor v1.1.esp

++ blackbow.esp

4E Random Welkynd and Varla Stones and Stone Bricks.esp

4F Pack Hunters V1.1.esp

++ dangerous wilderness.esp

50 300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp

51 allinonebasement_COBLnoCM.esp

52 BJsGuildPortals1.1.esp

53 BHC_Expanded.esp [Version 1.2]

54 Housewives v101.esp

55 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

56 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts Visible From Cyrodiil.esp

57 JSRandomTasks.esp [Version 1.1a]

58 LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5]

59 NecromancerHunting.esp

5A The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4]

** The Ayleid Steps Vwalk.esp

5B Ayleid Respawn v1.0 - For The Ayleid Steps.esp

5C Valenwood Improved.esp [Version 1.02.0]

5D VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

5E VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

5F Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp

** Vampire Hunting - Order Of The Virtuous Blood Vwalk.esp

60 Valenwood Improved Vampire Hunting Patch.esp

61 DLCFrostcrag.esp

62 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp

63 Knights.esp

64 Knights - Book Jackets.esp

65 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1]

** Knights Vwalk UOP.esp

66 The Lost Spires.esp

** The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp

67 ElsweyrAnequina.esp

68 BetterMusicSystem(Elsweyr).esp [Version 1.1]

++ ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp [Version 1.2]

** ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp

69 Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp

++ Elsweyr - Drinks Patch.esp

6A Elsweyr plantations & co..esp

6B Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp

6C ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.esp

6D xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]

6E LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

6F xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

70 xulTheHeath.esp

71 XulEntiusGorge.esp

72 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

73 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp

74 Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp

75 Valenwood Improved - Fallenleaf Everglade EV - Patch.esp [Version 1.0]

76 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]

77 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]

** xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp

78 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]

79 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3]

** xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp

7A Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp

7B xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]

7C xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]

7D xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

7E xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

7F xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]

80 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]

** xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp

81 xulPantherRiver.esp

82 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

83 Valenwood Improved - River Ethe EV - Patch.esp [Version 1.0]

84 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]

** xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp

85 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7]

** xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp

86 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]

87 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

88 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]

** xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp

89 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]

** xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp

8A xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2]

8B xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

8C xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp

8D ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp

** ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts Vwalk.esp

++ Better Lava by elveon.esp

8E Cliff_CountyNames.esp [Version 1.1]

++ Cobl Bookplacement.esp

8F HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 4.1.1]

90 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

91 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp

92 fadingtorches v2.2b.esp

++ Hurt Me Bad Traps.esp

93 Finger of the mountain plugin.esp

94 NirnrootPermPotions.esp

95 NoObsoleteEnemies.esp

96 NoObsoleteLoot.esp

++ BanditMarauderswearHelmets.esp

97 MD-Leveled Dremora Armors lootable.esp

98 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]

99 RandomEncounters.esp

++ TurretDisable.esp

9A StrongerPatrols.esp

9B WolfPacks.esp [Version 1.1]

9C Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 1.0]

9D Dark Brotherhood Armor Bounty v1.0.esp

9E Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

++ Pirate_ship_fix.esp

9F ReducedBackwardsRunningSpeed.esp

A0 Basic Primary Needs.esp

A1 More Effective Enchantments.esp

A2 More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp

A3 SetEssentialActors.esp

A4 Stalk'em SI.esp [Version 1.1]

A5 StartingSpells.esp

A6 Pestilent Afflictions.esp

A7 Poison FX.esp

A8 Lightweight Potions.esp [Version 1.1]

A9 RenGuardOverhaul.esp

AA _darker_dungeons.esp

++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76]

++ AMB.esp

++ Better Looking Dark Elves.esp

++ Better Looking Redguards-Mergeable.esp

** Better Looking Redguards-Mergeable Vwalk.esp

AB Better Looking Wood Elves COBL.esp

AC Bound_Arrows_with_Bow.esp

AD Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp [Version 4.9.5]

AE Better Cities BRAVIL.esp [Version 4.9.5]

AF Better Cities ANVIL.esp [Version 4.9.5]

B0 Better Cities CHORROL.esp [Version 4.9.5]

B1 Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp [Version 4.9.1]

B2 Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp [Version 4.9.5]

B3 Better Cities BRUMA.esp [Version 4.9.5]

B4 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0]

B5 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.9.5]

B6 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.8.4]

B7 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1]

B8 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.9.1]

B9 Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 4.9.5]

BA Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]

BB Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 4.8.1]

BC Alternative Start for Better Cities Fix.esp

BD _burning_kvatch.esp

++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

BE Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01

[micalov]

BC all thought beautiful, it is a FPS killer, it also looks like your missing the BC FPS patch from your load order? that could help.

[Jodi79]

I know, but without the cities appeare least than sardinian's village in winter..and in Sardinia the villages are VERY little

 

tried it now.. a little better: 13\15 fps..

 

The real trouble is that sometimes suddenly crash (strange thing: it happen more frequently when walk than when run)..problem i think related to the incapacity of my video card to process the huge ammount of input..but i hope i'm wrong: hell, it's not so old! and when i bought it the forums said that it's a monster!

[MarkInMKUK]

Fundamentally, you've added every mod from the "how to reduce your frame rate" list, and now have the reduced rate one might expect. You're very lucky that you get more than one or two frames per second with that load! You don't mention it, but do you have QTP3 installed as well , and texture replacers for the bodies and suchlike? Those will also slow things down a bit, and it is all a cumulative load.

 

There are a couple of things you CAN try though.

 

For the crashing, add FastExit and Winston Earle's Oblivion Crash Prevention system.

 

Certainly add all the FPS patches you can find for Better Cities. Also try turning off the wine barrels and shutters in the Better cities options if you have them enabled. Anvil waterfront is a good place to see the effect they are having.

 

Get the 3GB patch for Oblivion - it's an old program and doesn't use more than 2GB as installed, but some clever person wrote an improver which helps. No 32 bit OS will see more than 3and a bit GB of your 4GB - it's an addressing limitation - switch to 64 bit to use more (that's a whole new can of worms)

 

Track down and try the Omega gaming drivers for your video card - when I was running XP they gave me quite a fps boost compared with the current manufacturer's drivers.

 

Oblivion is a single-core program at the fundamental level - to run it at its fastest, one fast core will easily beat two or more slower ones. Overclocking is not advised.

[Jodi79]

where's that list? i have to check if i forgot to install something

 

How do you know that!! i have to admit to have installed pratically every texture repleacer i found intersting(and obviously it means qarl etc...): really, i suppose there isn't any vanilla texture in my ES(may be water..i tried Obge liquid water but, well, you know...i had to uninstall that!): may be i'm little greedy........ :teehee:

 

now i try this tricks..well thank you! both

[Jodi79]

Didn't found omega driver(probably because i'm an jackass), and 3GB patch be fraightened me.. i read in the txt it may do..bad thing to my cpu if wrong used(ever donkey..) i'll have to study it's instruction more...

 

instead fastexit work well: my frame rates are the same but less crash happen(well, in an heavy modded game i believe is quietly impossible a total stable version).

[Telyn]

Instead of using full QTP3, consider using one of the optimized versions like the Redimized version. You seem to be using most of the fps increasers I know of but these are two (and I have not tried these).

Streamline

Combat FPS Optimizer Updated

 

You could also look into pyffi-ing your meshes, but I can't help you with that since I've never done it. You can search on pyffi in the library and read a bit about it in the descriptions of the files.

 

Realistically...something has to give here, and it's either going to be your fps or you will need to make some mod choices if you want a game that is not slow in crowded areas.

Higher resolution textures= lower fps.

More buildings, more people, more decorations = lower fps.

Lighting mods can really drop it.

Too many extra torches will drop it a lot.

[MarkInMKUK]

Omega drivers are available at http://www.omegadrivers.net/

[Mortrix927]

Instead of using full QTP3, consider using one of the optimized versions like the Redimized version. You seem to be using most of the fps increasers I know of but these are two (and I have not tried these).

Streamline

Combat FPS Optimizer Updated

 

You could also look into pyffi-ing your meshes, but I can't help you with that since I've never done it. You can search on pyffi in the library and read a bit about it in the descriptions of the files.

 

Realistically...something has to give here, and it's either going to be your fps or you will need to make some mod choices if you want a game that is not slow in crowded areas.

Higher resolution textures= lower fps.

More buildings, more people, more decorations = lower fps.

Lighting mods can really drop it.

Too many extra torches will drop it a lot.

The Streamline program works really well. I don't know about the combat thing, but I'll give it a go, now that I'm aware of it. Bben has a link to something on tweakguides.com for some ini tweaks you might try. Or you could just go to tweakguides.com and search for oblivion. :thumbsup:

If you use a bashed patch, you can try limiting the number of actors/combatants.

Also, you could try changing how your system handles the page file. (Default sucks at it)

Restart computer.

Find the advanced settings for disk drives. (I don't remember for XP, I haven't had it for a while.)

Set the virtual memory of the primary drive/primary partition to "off"

Break out a calculator. Multiply the amount of RAM you have by 4.

On the secondary drive, primary partition (preferred) OR the primary drive, secondary partition. Set the minimum size to the number on the calculator. Set the maximum size to the number on the calculator. (If the secondary drive is a solid state drive, such as a thumb drive, that's even better.)

Make sure the "allow windows to manage virtual memory on all drives" is unchecked.

apply.

Restart computer.

Edited May 5, 2011 by dallen68

[Jodi79]

tried with omega driver..no change

 

now i'll try streamline and combat fps.. also pyffiing way sound interesting.

 

if doesn't work, i'll give up and will take lower res Tex...but this bother me!!

 

Surely, though i'll not solve the problem, at least i'm improving my english!

 

however, i'm really thinking about change my video card..