Gunmar is missing from Skyrim and Solstheim

[Ckauffman]

I'm playing the quest "A new order" from Dawnguard and Gunmar is missing. I've been to Solstheim and Skyrim and there is no marker for him. I've even been to all the caves just to check and he is MIA. I'm running a non-steam Legendary Skyrim if that matters. I am a Mod Organizer user and I have a heavy mod load. Every dirty mod has been cleaned with TES5Edit except for those that specifically stated not to clean them. I'm using the latest RealVision ENB. I also have SKSE installed with the memory patch (installed the scripts and such using Gopher's tutorial on YouTube). I have even tried using the console commands to take me to Gunmar and bring him to me but it says expected end of line or something like that. I was able to spawn a new Gunmar but of course I couldn't talk to him. Everything in my game has been running smoothly until this. Here is my load order copied from LOOT.

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Falskaar.esm

7 7 Wyrmstooth.esp

8 8 RaceCompatibility.esm

9 9 ApachiiHair.esm

10 a ApachiiHairFemales.esm

11 b SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

12 c Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

13 d RSkyrimChildren.esm

14 e ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

15 f EFFCore.esm

16 10 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

17 11 CompanionArissa.esm

18 12 Gray Fox Cowl.esm

19 13 notice board.esp

20 14 moonpath.esm

21 15 daymoyl.esm

22 16 MagicDuel.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

23 17 Cutting Room Floor.esp

24 18 SkyUI.esp

25 19 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

26 1a ETaC - Complete.esp

27 1b ELFX - Exteriors.esp

28 1c ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

29 1d RaceMenu.esp

30 1e RaceMenuPlugin.esp

31 1f CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

32 20 ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

33 21 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp

34 22 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

35 23 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

36 24 CharacterMakingExtender.esp

37 25 FNIS.esp

38 26 12FemaleBrows.esp

39 27 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

40 28 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

41 29 BardSoundsMalukah.esp

42 2a TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

43 2b Vivid Landscapes.esp

44 2c Better Dynamic Snow.esp

45 2d Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp

46 2e mintylightningmod.esp

47 2f SplashofRain.esp

48 30 WetandCold.esp

49 31 AOS.esp

50 32 TrueStorms.esp

51 33 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp

52 34 immersive roads.esp

53 35 JKs Skyrim.esp

54 36 ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp

55 37 3DNPC.esp

56 38 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

57 39 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

58 3a Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

59 3b WetandCold - Ashes.esp

60 3c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

61 3d DarkbroSanctuary.esp

62 3e Immersive Jewelry.esp

63 3f Rebirth Monster.esp

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65 41 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

66 42 ELFXEnhancer.esp

67 43 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

68 44 RealShelter.esp

69 45 Helgen Reborn.esp

70 46 Thieves Guild Redone.esp

71 47 Undeath.esp

72 48 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

73 49 Height Adjusted Races.esp

74 4a Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp

75 4b Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Reduced Weight).esp

76 4c Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp

77 4d BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp

78 4e SoS - The Wilds.esp

79 4f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

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81 51 Bishop.esp

82 52 CWIELnFXPatch.esp

83 53 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp

84 54 BetterQuestObjectives.esp

85 55 ESFCompanions.esp

86 56 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

87 57 SoS - The Dungeons.esp

88 58 Bluecreek Estate.esp

89 59 skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

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94 5e Immersive Solstheim.esp

95 5f ETaC - Complete Im. Cit. Patch.esp

96 60 WATER DG + DB.esp

97 61 Point The Way.esp

98 62 SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp

99 63 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

100 64 TheChoiceIsYours.esp

101 65 Inconsequential NPCs.esp

102 66 CornerofTheSkyrim.esp

103 67 Inigo.esp

104 68 Run For Your Lives.esp

105 69 moonpath_questdata.esp

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115 73 Populated Cities 2.esp

116 74 ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp

117 75 arnima.esp

118 76 Signs_of_Skyrim.esp

119 77 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

120 78 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp

121 79 SofiaFollower.esp

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124 7c WorldEaterBeater.esp

125 7d Marriable Serana.esp

126 7e The Fifth Gate.esp

127 7f ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.esp

128 80 Darkend.esp

129 81 WATER Plants.esp

130 82 Waves.esp

131 83 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

132 84 Argonian Access.esp

133 85 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

134 86 SL99Exchanger.esp

135 87 ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp

136 88 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

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138 8a Immersive Weapons.esp

139 8b FNISspells.esp

140 8c Unique Grasses.esp

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RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp

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144 90 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp

145 91 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

146 92 Spells Cast Light.esp

147 93 ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp

148 94 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

149 95 ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp

150 96 AchieveThat.esp

151 97 RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp

152 98 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

153 99 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

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196 c4 SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp

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198 c6 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

199 c7 zzArmormashups.esp

200 c8 Convenient Horses.esp

201 c9 KK_Lola_companion_wolfdog.esp

202 ca 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

203 cb Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp

204 cc SabreFurBag.esp

205 cd ORM-Arvak.esp

206 ce When Vampires Attack.esp

207 cf ScarletDawnArmor.esp

208 d0 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

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212 d4 Realistic crime report radius.esp

213 d5 BVFE_Serana.esp

214 d6 Real Clouds.esp

215 d7 TERAArmors_CBBE.esp

I've tried to be as thorough as possible but if I've missed any relevant information let me know. Any help with finding a solution is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[Ckauffman]

O so I had the idea to use clairvoyance just to see what happens. Starting in Windhelm, it lead me across all of Skyrim to the Orc hold Mor Khazgur, specifically Lark's Longhouse. Gunmar was not inside or around the hold. Now I'm even more confused.

[Ckauffman]

Holy s#*! after hours of looking for solutions that wouldn't break my game or require me to start over I found one. Use the console to move the quest along! So simple!

 

1) In the console type "Player.sqs DLC1HunterBaseIntro" DLC1HunterBaseIntro is the Quest ID for A New Order.

This will show what stages of the quest you've done with a 1 and those you haven't done with a 0.

2) Next type in the console "SetStage DLC1HunterBaseIntro <stage #>" Replace <stage #> with whichever stage you need to do next. For me it was 45. That triggered the quest to tell me that Gunmar wanted help hunting a bear. But he was still missing so I just used the console to trigger the next stage. I don't know for sure but you should probably set each stage in sequence and not skip any.

3) The quest updated teelling me to return to Fort Dawnguard and GUNMAR WAS THERE!!! The quest finished like nothing ever happened and I can interact successfully with Gunmar and thee others. You can do this with any quest that gets stuck.

 

I hope this helps someone because it saved my ass.

[Ahzidal0]

Holy s*** after hours of looking for solutions that wouldn't break my game or require me to start over I found one. Use the console to move the quest along! So simple!

 

1) In the console type "Player.sqs DLC1HunterBaseIntro" DLC1HunterBaseIntro is the Quest ID for A New Order.

This will show what stages of the quest you've done with a 1 and those you haven't done with a 0.

2) Next type in the console "SetStage DLC1HunterBaseIntro <stage #>" Replace <stage #> with whichever stage you need to do next. For me it was 45. That triggered the quest to tell me that Gunmar wanted help hunting a bear. But he was still missing so I just used the console to trigger the next stage. I don't know for sure but you should probably set each stage in sequence and not skip any.

3) The quest updated teelling me to return to Fort Dawnguard and GUNMAR WAS THERE!!! The quest finished like nothing ever happened and I can interact successfully with Gunmar and thee others. You can do this with any quest that gets stuck.

 

I hope this helps someone because it saved my ass.

Worked for me.

 

Thank you!

[Frankeytim]

I had same problem, could not find Gunmar, spent 2 days on it, then font him in the Reach, reach is a nother land mod, so if you got other lands mods IE Reach ,Shire, Etc look in them lands as well, as I font Gunmar in The DLC mod the Reach.

[dolphinchair]

Holy s*** after hours of looking for solutions that wouldn't break my game or require me to start over I found one. Use the console to move the quest along! So simple!

 

1) In the console type "Player.sqs DLC1HunterBaseIntro" DLC1HunterBaseIntro is the Quest ID for A New Order.

This will show what stages of the quest you've done with a 1 and those you haven't done with a 0.

2) Next type in the console "SetStage DLC1HunterBaseIntro <stage #>" Replace <stage #> with whichever stage you need to do next. For me it was 45. That triggered the quest to tell me that Gunmar wanted help hunting a bear. But he was still missing so I just used the console to trigger the next stage. I don't know for sure but you should probably set each stage in sequence and not skip any.

3) The quest updated teelling me to return to Fort Dawnguard and GUNMAR WAS THERE!!! The quest finished like nothing ever happened and I can interact successfully with Gunmar and thee others. You can do this with any quest that gets stuck.

 

I hope this helps someone because it saved my ass.

THANKS YOU DUDE