jeffglobal Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) see things wrong in the .nifs :laugh:http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w409/SnowSharky/2016-02-20_00001_zps9w1e5cki.jpgThings I changed:Removed Odd skin reference in the BSTriShape (why it had the odd extra space under it)Swapped the BSLightingShaderProperty for the one in the vanilla knife (so I had BSShaderTextureSet)Changed the txt value for BSTriShape (was at some odd 60 referance that caused CTD, needed a new working string)Added Bounding SphereHeres my edited .nifs (youre going to need to change the texture paths in the BSShaderTextureSet for each) -https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxl_0lYlw_ZOUE94VWRpcnpQZ0U/view?usp=sharing Awesome work with the UV Unwrap and textures btw! Just need to do a little tweaking with the positions in the .nifs and youre set. OK, tyvm. Finally I can compare something that freak'n works, and my attempt. Nifskopiness is only two months old for me, so I really appreciate it. I could do better on the textures, that was just "good enough" f'ing around in Substance Painter after Zbrush said F U to none quad meshes. Transforming in nifskope, I can do...adding a bounding sphere, idt I can do...I can change the size of a bounding sphere, but I can't make one...either way looks like all I have to do after you fixed it, is move the blade into the handle a little and it's done. Finally, the errors may be coming to a workable end...let's continue... Thanks again. [Edit] Hey, I can't get the handle to show up in game. Then, I learned:Make sure the reference to the hkt file is the same as yours, duh.I learned that without a bounding sphere, your asset doesn't exist to the game, though now that I think about it Michael Moore may have said something like that...SO I learned how to add one. woo hoo. click on the number, add number...whoa.Will upload a zip file in a sec, I want to erase a tiny bit of wood on the blade, and just call it done for now. Edited February 20, 2016 by jeffglobal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffglobal Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 nice to see someone taking this on.I sow my seeds. What birds pick them up I cannot control but I like to see the breeze blowingSince, I looked at your diffuse.psd for the knife (hoped I could just spray your texture on in ZBrush, but nope, that would be too easy, y should that work), I noticed you're from the "old school" that textures their assets with PS on a hopefully human readable uv map. I was told to do that first and then play with Substance painter. What do you think of Quixel? Too bad you don't also have Substance Painter to compare...supposibly, SP makes a little less cartoony texture, but hard to say, since I only have feedback from like 3 ppl. I'll make a more serious texture of the tactical blade and make better bolts too in the handle, but given the extremely low resolution of the model, I can't really fix the hole in the handle, unless I cut it out with a Zbrush thingie, This way, you should try to texture the blade with Quixel and compare the outputs. Now FO4 is spec/gloss with a metal hack so, maybe it's not the best place to compare my PBR workflow saved in a spec/gloss workspace, but it's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffglobal Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Ok, so here's the finished v.1. I fixed the wood on the metal.https://www.dropbox.com/s/w22cwlil2bpi6l0/Fallout4%202016-02-20%2016-31-01-27.jpg?dl=0 Since Eli has been so kind to make tutorials about how to make such things standalone and craftable, that's what I should do next. https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9l0ud0j7bw0gq0/Tracker%20Knife.zip?dl=0 There's an interesting blood decal problem, cause I tested it out on one of the cats and it maps to the old handle and blade...idk about decals other than they're the only things that have smooth transparency...https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1nsi3tza1u5vey/Fallout4%202016-02-20%2016-39-55-95.jpg?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uedftus Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) might be better to use my newer version of this knife. I did all the necessary maps and removed some ugly geometry from the bladehttp://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10119/? I considered trying SubPainter before quixel but quixel looked easier to get into which is why I picked it. I have my workflow down pretty much now but have to focus on cleaner models and more material definition. neither of which are terribly hard to do I don't think. I do a lot of shortcuts but not too many so the model looks like utter .... Gotta find that happy middle ground EDIT: I looked at your last uploaded version of the blade. The textures folder has the diffuse in it but I said WTF out loud looking at what you did to it. Why is it stretching all over like that? Edited February 20, 2016 by uedftus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilkandeekid Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 There's an interesting blood decal problem, cause I tested it out on one of the cats and it maps to the old handle and blade...idk about decals other than they're the only things that have smooth transparency...https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1nsi3tza1u5vey/Fallout4%202016-02-20%2016-39-55-95.jpg?dl=0 Crap it still has its original BSTriShape to shape the blood texture around, so its going to show up where you dont want it to.I should have fixed that earlier, try this .nif for the blade (you will need to redo the positioning changes you made) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxl_0lYlw_ZOaWdTa3lmazR0Q2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffglobal Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 There's an interesting blood decal problem, cause I tested it out on one of the cats and it maps to the old handle and blade...idk about decals other than they're the only things that have smooth transparency...https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1nsi3tza1u5vey/Fallout4%202016-02-20%2016-39-55-95.jpg?dl=0 Crap it still has its original BSTriShape to shape the blood texture around, so its going to show up where you dont want it to.I should have fixed that earlier, try this .nif for the blade (you will need to redo the positioning changes you made) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxl_0lYlw_ZOaWdTa3lmazR0Q2c Ty, I'll look at it... ty for your time spent. What's more interesting to me, and the reason I brought it up was, h/wtf we don't see the mesh that the blood decal is applied too, and how it actually behaves, so I can modify or make my own. I suspect this decal/blood thing is important. I will try to switch the blood mesh to my mesh too and compare results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilkandeekid Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) Np, always glad to help :smile:For what I did - I pasted over the original bladeblood's BSTrishape with the same from the new blade (dont copy branch, and paste over). Then re-linked the BSLightingShaderProperty and NiAlphaProperty in the BSTrishape's "BS Properties".I think its the NiAlphaProperty thats the key you're looking for as to why the mesh/texture doesnt show up entirely and you only see the blood around its shape. Edited February 21, 2016 by lilkandeekid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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