justaking Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Ok.. I really need some help from a bonafiede expert. I have been trying to set up a costum mod list but as most can imagine I have run into countless problem after problem. I know I could just settle for one or two mods..... but there are just so many cool ones..and I want them all!! Haha. So, seriously, I know I can't have them all. But is there any way to come close? I included some screenshots of my picked mods so far. I have gone through the lists and the tutorials and the help guides and bugged everyone here in the forums over and over again, but I just keep running into problems....Outdated information, updated files no longer compatible, dead links.. If anyone has the time, could they please look at my list and tell me (as far as they know) which ones are definitely incompatible with the majority of the others, and if they have any suggstions for substitutions or alternates ( and maybe even a basic load order :) if i dare ask for it. BOSS seems to be amazing..but..it's not working, for me, possibly because I'm doing something else wrong) and if I need any additional files. I'm worn out and tired of almost being able to play and then being disappointed (a feeling I'm sure many of you can relate too...) I can live with cutting out a few of the mods, I guess... Just let me know after you take a look. Thanks to whoever takes the time to give a helpful hand, or eye in ths case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 Second half.. or more like the last third, but anyway, the other piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamujiin Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) First of all just by glancing at that list you have so many conflicting mods its crazy, I am an expert, and all i can say is have fun. my advice, start out adding the utilities, like wryebash, TES4Edit, OBMM, BOSS etc. then do the FCOM install. Then add the HGEC mod. Then add each mod one at a time.All while doing what you need to do with the utilities, i hope you dont work because you have about literally a weeks worth of adding and testing. by one at a time i mean install one mod, run the game and test the mod. see if it works. when your done installing, the mods you want, and you dont experiance any crashes, you are now an advanced user.... Make two test saves, that are not important to you, one a male and one a female. With the bigger cosmetic mods, if you have 2gb or less of ram, and anything less than a 512mb video card, your going to be screwed anyway. a lot of those mods will way overclock your rig, if you have anything less than a 1gb video card, and 4gb of ram, and a decent processer ( quad core ). Last but not least my good sir/madam, the nexus has been around for going on 5/6 years, i guarentee your question has been asked, really do learn to use the search engine. RULE OF THUMB, DONT GET NUTS! IF YOU DO GET NUTS PLEASE AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING! And by the look of the mods you chose, you at least know what you are about to endevour. Have fun! Edited May 11, 2011 by einhander888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 First of all just by glancing at that list you have so many conflicting mods its crazy, I am an expert, and all i can say is have fun. my advice, start out adding the utilities, like wryebash, TES4Edit, OBMM, BOSS etc. then do the FCOM install. Then add the HGEC mod. Then add each mod one at a time.All while doing what you need to do with the utilities, i hope you dont work because you have about literally a weeks worth of adding and testing. by one at a time i mean install one mod, run the game and test the mod. see if it works. when your done installing, the mods you want, and you dont experiance any crashes, you are now an advanced user.... Make two test saves, that are not important to you, one a male and one a female. With the bigger cosmetic mods, if you have 2gb or less of ram, and anything less than a 512mb video card, your going to be screwed anyway. a lot of those mods will way overclock your rig, if you have anything less than a 1gb video card, and 4gb of ram, and a decent processer ( quad core ). Last but not least my good sir/madam, the nexus has been around for going on 5/6 years, i guarentee your question has been asked, really do learn to use the search engine. RULE OF THUMB, DONT GET NUTS! IF YOU DO GET NUTS PLEASE AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING! And by the look of the mods you chose, you at least know what you are about to endevour. Have fun! Well, thanks for the advice and the answer. I have been trying to do as you advised and as I stated in my original post, have read through more than a couple guides, help topics, etc. I admit that I was trying for an easy way out with this post, doesn't hurt to ask, so no need to get testy/preachy with the search engine topic, as I have alrady exhausted it. I'm gonna keep trying though, it's gonna be sweeet when i get it going. Thanks again for your time and help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telyn Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 What happens when you try to run BOSS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmeniusLOD Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) With that many mods, I strongly recommend using Wrye Bash and converting those packages to BAIN or BAIN-ready packages. This way you can install or uninstall things without messing up your base installation. Also packages are installed based on the order of the list, larger-numbered packages taking precedence. This means you can rearrange packages to install in the correct order, and Wrye Bash will automatically replace and overwrite files based on your install order. If you ever decide to uninstall an intermediate package, it will also automatically replace any files which may have been in conflict. Also, replace the P.O.S. WinRAR with 7-zip :tongue: . This site has a lot of good information for setting up modded Oblivion, including extensive information on setting up and using BAIN. Some of the information is slightly out-of-date, but it is all still relevant. Edited May 11, 2011 by ArmeniusLOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 What happens when you try to run BOSS? Boss works, as far as running, arranging and giving info, but somthing has to be wrong, as it gives me a different load order, somtimes when i didn't even install anything new and it also keeps giving me information that is conflicting with help guides, tutorials and it continues to advise installing the unofficial supplemental patch, evevn though I have downloaded it from several different locations and taken it on and off multiple times to try to get it to recognize it. It is displayed properly in OMM and seems to be fine, so I'm not sure about it. right now I have only patches loaded and the game runs fine, but BOSS still refuses to recognize that that patch is there and keeps recommending it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmeniusLOD Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 BOSS simply doesn't tell the difference between the Supplemental patch and the base Unofficial patch. If you know you have it installed then there's nothing to worry about. When I list mods in Wrye Bash it says it's version 3.3.5, but BOSS always gives me the recommendation when I run it meaning there simply isn't a case in the program for it NOT to show the recommendation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaking Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 With that many mods, I strongly recommend using Wrye Bash and converting those packages to BAIN or BAIN-ready packages. This way you can install or uninstall things without messing up your base installation. Also packages are installed based on the order of the list, larger-numbered packages taking precedence. This means you can rearrange packages to install in the correct order, and Wrye Bash will automatically replace and overwrite files based on your install order. If you ever decide to uninstall an intermediate package, it will also automatically replace any files which may have been in conflict. Also, replace the P.O.S. WinRAR with 7-zip . This site has a lot of good information for setting up modded Oblivion, including extensive information on setting up and using BAIN. Some of the information is slightly out-of-date, but it is all still relevant. (i just copied this to show who i was responding to, it would not allow me to reply to this message, adminstrator error, login or somthing like that). I suppose I will try Wrye Bash again... if i have no other alternative. Everyone has such good things to say about it, but last time I used it ( and i followed the tutorial step by step) it took my game that was working relatively well and made it crash on initialization every single time... So, i'm a bit hesitant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmeniusLOD Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 If OBMM works better for you and you're comfortable using it, then you should stick with it. A lot of people think Bash is really complicated, but it isn't. In my opinion the installation and management process is a lot more streamlined in Bash, but to each his own. Since I see that you're having trouble getting installed and working then all the more reason to stick with what you know. No game is worth a migraine over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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