Unstable fallout 3 modded wanderers edition

[LordSms]

Hello my name is Matt and was needing to know what might be going on with my fallout 3. First I will tell you what is going on.My fallout 3 with some mods like wanderers edition keeps popping up the windows error about fallout 3 has stopped working. I get this error at random times. My first question is, is fallout 3 crashes or errors like this common place? Is this a normal thing i just need to get use to while enjoying these mods? If it is not common place then that would mean that I am doing something wrong. The game can run without crashing for hours or mins. Its just completely randon. Utility programs i am using include FOMM, FO3Edit, FOSE, and the validator. I will also add that when i install a mod i do it the easy way just by dropping the file into the data folder. I know this is the lazy way and it makes it harder to uninstall mods but this is something that i deal with. Ok not for my BOSS load order.

 

this is my game directory. I did have it out of the program x86 directory but had to put it in there to run fo3edit because it wouldnt let me choose another directory and it wasnt showing my mods or even masters. The .esm and esp. are in bold just like what is shown in the fomm.

C:\program x86\steam\steamapps\common\fallout3 goty

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm

SeducingWomen.esm

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

YearlingsGlasses.esp

OverMightyGold.esp

GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

Action for men v1.0.esp

Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp

DragonskinBonusPack.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Soft Unleveler Hardcore.esp

SeducedDLC03.esp

Path to Redemption.esp

SeducingWomen_patch_156.esp

Mines Explode Faster by FussyGit.esp

Higher Vehicle Health.esp

PWSerialKiller.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Anchorage.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - The Pitt.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Broken Steel.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Point Lookout.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Sandstorm.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Dynamic Sneak Bonus.esp

DTOMRC3.esp

JunkShop.esp

Takoma Bank - Scattered Keys.esp

Old GNR Building.esp

Fallout 3 merged patch.esp

 

Total active plugins: 62

Total plugins: 62

 

Please if you see any problems with this I would like to know so i can try and fix it. Also another thing is I am getting this message for almost all my .esp. "WARNING: This plugin has the file extension .esp, but its file header marks it as an esm! " I'm sure this can be anything good. I have all master files.

 

Ok also when i do an error check of my fallout3.esm master, I get a whole lot of error messages. Actually way to many to put on here without it taking up the whole board. Is all this normal or is there just something really wrong? I have done a fo3edit master update as well and that didnt seem to stop the random "fallout 3 has stopped working" windows message that I get. Please if anyone could help me that would be awesome.

 

Also my computer specs are:

 

amd athlon x6 3.8 oced

 

8 gigs RAM oced

 

ge-force 580 video card. oced

 

SupremeFX X-Fi 8-Ch audio with EAX Advanced HD 4.0 support

 

Please help and thank you for your time. If I left anything out please let me know.

Edited May 17, 2011 by LordSms

[ccmechanic2]

ok you poor sole, I will help you but you must do exactly as I tell you to do ok. I will give you a link that contains both a mod and all the information you need in the description ,the comment section and My profile. I will walk you through all the steps.(http://www.fallout3n...le.php?id=15877) Edited May 17, 2011 by ccmechanic2

[carlosjuero]

One glaring Issue I see right off the bat is that you have both FWE Followers Enhanced plugins active. You can only use one or the other [since you have Broken Steel you need to use the Broken Steel one] - if you used the FOMOD installer with FOMM then it would have told you during options selection [though, for me, it still activated both - as well as plugins I didn't choose to activate like Alternate Travel]

[Tamujiin]

Heres a link to solve all your problems. Pay attention to the part about fo3edit. and making a merged patch. Notice the load order. And whatever you do get the fake full screen mode mod.

 

http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/379635-fallout-3-load-order-perfected/

 

Pertaining to this line....

 

"Ok also when i do an error check of my fallout3.esm master, I get a whole lot of error messages."

 

don't worry about that.

Edited May 17, 2011 by tamujiin

[LordSms]

ok update. I reinstalled everything, and it was working fine. It took almost 2 to 3 hours before it pops up that fallout 3 has stopped working. I then did the foedit update "fo3masterupdate". After this update I get all these "WARNING: This plugin has the file extension .esp, but its file header marks it as an esm! " on almost everyone of my .esp files. My game also seems to have that windows error a lot more after the "fo3masterupdate" update. Is there a way to reverse this without me having to completely reinstalled everything? I was told that this fo3masterupdate would help things not make them worse but all it seems to do is make them worse. Here is my new load order now,

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm

SeducingWomen.esm

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

YearlingsGlasses.esp

GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp

OverMightyGold.esp

Higher Vehicle Health.esp

DTOMRC3.esp

PWSerialKiller.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

Action for men v1.0.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp

Takoma Bank - Scattered Keys.esp

Path to Redemption.esp

DragonskinBonusPack.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Soft Unleveler Hardcore.esp

SeducingWomen_-_override.esp

SeducedDLC03.esp

JunkShop.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Anchorage.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - The Pitt.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Broken Steel.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Point Lookout.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Sandstorm.esp

Mines Explode Faster by FussyGit.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Dynamic Sneak Bonus.esp

Old GNR Building.esp

 

Total active plugins: 60

Total plugins: 61

 

I also fixed the Followers Enhanced to where I am running only one and its the right one. So, any ideas?

 

I also have a question about the merged patch. When I do the merged patch isnt it suppose to say when its finished patching on the right because mine dont. It just seems to get stuck on the last plugin. Also when i start up fomm, am I only suppose to have the merged patch checked or what? I noticed that some things are working with only the merged patch and some things i still have to have checked. If I am only suppose to have the merged patch checked for some reason like i said not all of my mods work with just it checked and i have to go back and check some of them to have them working. Anyways please help thank you.

Edited May 18, 2011 by LordSms

[ccmechanic2]

FO3MasterRestore.exe

[LordSms]

Thank you.

[LordSms]

so...... anything else on any of my questions? I am still wondering why the fo3masterupdate is messing things up. Does anyone else have this issue? Also other questions from the above list.

[ccmechanic2]

so...... anything else on any of my questions? I am still wondering why the fo3masterupdate is messing things up. Does anyone else have this issue? Also other questions from the above list.

The main reason this creates problems is do to the fact that the Master-update feature Flipped on and esm flag for most mods Not designed to run as an esm format. Most esp's seen on the NEXUS are non finalized types. Some are. Flipping on the esm flag on a finalized esp changes how the havoc engine treats the code as well as disturbing that way the math of said files are processed. Get a slew of these doing this in theory should allow smooth game flow. But sense all esp's are not alike, and each containing different and Mostly conflicting codes used by different authors will disrupt the flow of the processing of the data. Error generation becomes over abundant and pushes the engine to it's limits. Massive conflicts occur and as a result. CTD,clipping, stuttering, Freezing, No launching, hangups. You name it. Very few people are fully abbressed upon this fact or have the knowledge to apply the correct formats to alleviate these issues. So all this gives us One heck of a challenge to over come, learn from , devise solutions too. A co- Operative knowledge base is required to accomplish goal mush like the company that created the games in the first place. The NEXUS web site is still growing, Now a new forum with a chance for all this to come about has a possible out come of this to take place.

[LordSms]

Awesome man thanks for explaining that to me mechanic. If there is some way that we can chat regularely on steam or another program that would be awesome. That way to can see if you can help me in any way.