Colt Peacemaker: .45 Colt

[ramare]

I'm writing to request that someone create a variant on the puny little crap Single Action Army that is chambered in .357, that come in New Vegas.

One made in .45.

Y'know, the really big one.

 

Like this one:

http://www.thelegendbegins.com/peacemaker.gif

 

Now, I have no idea what model, specifically, this one is; but it looks the best, in my opinion. And if you create this new version of an old classic, it'd be nice if it had the same nickle-plated finish, just so it looks different at base level, too; but beggars can't be choosers. At least use Millenia's nifty texture, if you don't make/find any other texture, okay? I'm guessing you'd be able to figure out more about the weapon than I could really tell you from the Wikipedia page. Still look the most bad ass if it was the same as in the picture model-wise, and chrome textured.

 

A link to the Wikipedia page, so that I don't have to write a bunch of other stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Single_Action_Army

 

Why do I want this weapon?

Simple. It's a big gun, it fits the post-Apocalyptic Western feel of New Vegas, it's chambered in .45, and rule of cool, as well as Fallout's stats system states that the only pistol that should surpass this one (And maybe even not then, given balancing.), is the stock, or mod-added, .44 revolvers, and desert eagles. This means that it would be a very powerful weapon. And besides, who wouldn't like to have a magnum where you're forced to load shot by shot, but be rewarded for it by it being rather accurate, and very powerful? I know I would. Besides, you can not look at the specific model image I posted and not say "Bad. Ass."

Seriously. Try it. Unless magnums aren't your thing, you can't. Admit it. You know you want to blow a hole in some guy with this, now that you've seen it.

 

Like any request, I realize that it's not guaranteed to be made. And I also realize that anyone who attempts to make this will be doing so out of volunteer work; or me giving them the idea, and then them doing it on their own power. As such, no one is forcing you to make this. Hell, no one is even forcing you to do a very good job, even if you do. Just edit Millenia's texture (With permissions, of course!) for the .357 version to be silvery, chamber it in the .45 Colt round in Caliberx (Or similar mod.), and change the stats; all while using the standard .357 version's model, and that'd be good enough. Not a very good job, but it's close enough to be usable.

Now, a real trooper would make a custom model based on my picture, make a silver texture from scratch (Or maybe even get Millenia to do it!), get sounds that fit (Maybe from the real thing, even!), and make an entirely new weapon, and add it to leveled/vendor lists.

But I'm guessing the chance of someone doing that good of a job is about as high as the chance of more than twenty people viewing this post (Note that there isn't really a problem with that; but the more people who view it, the higher a chance one of them will either make it, or toss the idea to someone who can and will.).

Slim.

 

Hell, I just feel good adding a better possibility that this hard-hitting, stylish badass will be created-- properly. Unlike what Obsidian did. f***in' .357...BAH!

[VaultPi]

now if we we're being historically accurate the peacemaker would be .44-40, which was done so that it could use the same cartrige as the Winchester lever action. Now if we could include the Sharp's Trapdoor with .45-70 sniper rifle too.

[ramare]

now if we we're being historically accurate the peacemaker would be .44-40, which was done so that it could use the same cartrige as the Winchester lever action. Now if we could include the Sharp's Trapdoor with .45-70 sniper rifle too.

Well, I was aiming more for the more modern (As is the handgun pictured, I'd imagine.) versions. Like, an upgrade from the vanilla .357, both in weapon (There are pretty big differences in caliber, and specific workings, depending on time-frame. The weapon has been chambered for 30 different calibers.), as well as in caliber; and thus significant increase in power, minor increase in accuracy, and decrease in fire speed (Bigger gun, bigger hammer, harder to pull; in my experience, at least.).

 

Compared to the .44-40 round, I would rather the proven stopping power, comparatively wider spread, and familiarity of the .45 LC round. There's just something pretty about this gun, especially when it's in the not-quite-modern-but-close-enough shape in the picture I provided, rather than in the older, more rugged designs. And there's just something poetic about the .45 round-- just something American about it; whether we're talking about modern ACP cartridges, or older, vintage cartridges; I just love the caliber. It works. Especially in video game physics.

 

Quoth the Wikipedia page:

From 1873 through 1940 (with small numbers assembled during and after World War II, the so called "Pre-War, Post-War" model), production of the Colt Single Action Army reached 357,859. This is identified as the "Pre War" or "First Generation" of the model. Calibers, at least thirty in all, ranged from .22 rimfire through .476 Eley, with approximately half, or 158,884 (including Bisley and Flat Top Target variations), chambered for .45 Colt. The next most prevalent were the .44-40 Winchester Center fire (WCF) at 71,392; 38-40 (38 WCF) at 50,520; 32-20 Winchester (32 WCF) at 43,284 and, the 41 Colt at 19,676.

[Moraelin]

Well, the silver texture is actually pretty easy to do. It's the mesh that's the problem :P

 

If you just want to change the ammo and stats, though, that's something you can do yourself. As they say, if you give a man a fire, he's warm for a day, but if you set him on fire, he's warm for the rest of his life ;)

 

Basically, get the newest GECK from http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/downloads/geck.php

 

Start it as admin (so you can save in the data directory), load FalloutNV and the ammo esm, if any. Find the weapon you want to change, double-click it. Change the ID, hit ok, say "yes" when asked if you want to make a copy. Edit the copy and change its name, ammo, stats, etc. Hit OK. Save. Pick a good name for your mod.

 

Now basically the simplest thing to do is find some room where you want to pick it up in the list of interiors (e.g., the school house in GS), double click it, drag, zoom, etc the render window until you find a good spot, then drag and drop the gun from the list of weapons to the render window. Hit F so it's put on the floor, or on top of whatever was under it. Save.

 

Done. Congrats, you just made your first mod.

 

Now you can go pick your weapon from wherever you dropped it.

Edited June 14, 2011 by Moraelin

[Moraelin]

Also, if you're going to rename or retexture one, have you considered using the Mysterious Stranger's .44 magnum? I mean, the .357 is a break-top, innit? At least the .44 magnum is a solid frame revolver.

 

EDIT: never mind, I was confusing it with the .32 from Fallout 3.

Edited June 14, 2011 by Moraelin

[AceShooter01]

Actually, I have someone creating a Colt Single Action Army in .45 Colt. Only it will be color cased blue and it will have a 7.5 inch barrel. i will let you know when it is ready.

[VaultPi]

should we also have the .44 army long barreled Walker Colt too?

[OsilentchaosO]

Having a colt peacemaker would indeed add to the post-apocalyptic western style,but i dont quite like the wood grip and silver shine,IMO the antique gunmetal gray with a pearl or black synthetic handgrip style.

 

a retex of the .357 model would probably be your best bet,but even that misses one key element,the First gen. colt single action army peacemaker was a front load cylinder,if you want a second gen. then yes it has a right side loading gate.

 

First gen. were chambered in .45 colt and .44 American,second gen. were chambered in 44. American and 45. ACP.

[AceShooter01]

Having a colt peacemaker would indeed add to the post-apocalyptic western style,but i dont quite like the wood grip and silver shine,IMO the antique gunmetal gray with a pearl or black synthetic handgrip style.

 

a retex of the .357 model would probably be your best bet,but even that misses one key element,the First gen. colt single action army peacemaker was a front load cylinder,if you want a second gen. then yes it has a right side loading gate.

 

First gen. were chambered in .45 colt and .44 American,second gen. were chambered in 44. American and 45. ACP.

 

I agree and the first generation Colt Peacemaker was not a front loader. being the mettalic catridge was invented at the time the cylinder was bored through and you could stick the mettalic catridge ammo with the choice of caliber in the chamber.

[OsilentchaosO]

I agree and the first generation Colt Peacemaker was not a front loader. being the mettalic catridge was invented at the time the cylinder was bored through and you could stick the mettalic catridge ammo with the choice of caliber in the chamber.

 

wait...maybe i'm thinking of the navy colt single action,either way gate or front load are still annoying as hell,always preferred flip open