SpaceJoker Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I opened a topic believing that the problem of these CTDs was the fps limiter. I was wrong.Tried to play without ENB to see if it was the VRAM. I still got them. I'm pretty sure the problem are the mods themselves. This is the Load Order as sorted by LOOT: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Wyrmstooth.esp 7 7 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 8 8 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 9 9 gondorarmormaty743.esp 10 a SkyFalls + SkyMills Wyrmstooth.esp 11 b SkyUI.esp 12 c 30_fps_loading_fix.esp 13 d EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 14 e ELFX - Exteriors.esp 15 f SkyRe_Main.esp 16 10 ImmersiveSpells.esp 17 11 ELE-Interior Lighting Merged.esp 18 12 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 19 13 SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp 20 14 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 21 15 ELFXEnhancer.esp 22 16 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp 23 17 SoS - The Wilds.esp 24 18 Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp 25 19 DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp 26 1a Glass Variants.esp 27 1b Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 28 1c Immersive detection of NPC.esp 29 1d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 30 1e dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 31 1f dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp 32 20 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 33 21 WetandCold.esp 34 22 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 35 23 FNIS.esp 36 24 TKDodge.esp 37 25 Dual Sheath Redux.esp 38 26 Locational Damage.esp 39 27 Convenient Horses.esp 40 28 lighterdbs.esp 41 29 DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp 42 2a DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp Horsemen Combat Enhancement.esp 43 2b Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp 44 2c The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp 45 2d RaceMenu.esp 46 2e RaceMenuPlugin.esp 47 2f DragonEngine2.esp 48 30 Footprints.esp 49 31 sandboxcylinderheight.esp 50 32 iHUD.esp 51 33 Smoking Candles.esp 52 34 Smoking Torches.esp 53 35 Civil War Overhaul.esp 54 36 SoS - The Dungeons.esp 55 37 Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp 56 38 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp 57 39 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 58 3a RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 59 3b Immersive Patrols II.esp druid archer.esp 60 3c SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp 61 3d Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 62 3e Unique Grasses_clippingfixer.esp 63 3f SkyRe_StandingStones.esp 64 40 SkyRe_Races.esp 65 41 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 66 42 Unique Grasses.esp 67 43 Immersive Speechcraft.esp 68 44 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp 69 45 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp Horsemen.esp 70 46 FNISspells.esp 71 47 Worlds Dawn.esp 72 48 _tck_SpellCrafting.esp 73 49 SkyRealism - Capacity and Carry Weight.esp 74 4a SkyRealism - Encumbrance.esp 75 4b Dr_Bandolier.esp SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp 76 4c aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 77 4d Hunterborn.esp 78 4e TheAxeOfHakon1_0.esp 79 4f RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 80 50 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 81 51 isilnarsil.esp 82 52 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp 83 53 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 84 54 Character Creation Overhaul.esp 85 55 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 86 56 Action Combat.esp 87 57 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp 88 58 DeadlyCombat.esp 89 59 DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp 90 5a mintylightningmod.esp 91 5b TrueStorms.esp 92 5c TrueStorms-NLA.esp 93 5d Supreme Fog.esp 94 5e LeatherBackpackDarkBrown-50.esp 95 5f Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ASLAL - Hearthfire Support.esp 96 60 ASIS-Dependency.esp 97 61 ASIS.esp 98 62 ReProccer.esp 99 63 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp 100 64 DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.espAlso Reproccer is giving me some string errors due to the language difference. Tried to teak "Stats-xml", I didn't have the errors anymore but whenever I tried to repatch everything it gave me something like "Error - Java.lang.nullpointer" something. Had to reinstall the whole ReProccer to surpass this problem. I mention this because Tes5edit is giving me some errors regarding strings, tho I barely understand something in that program so I'm not sure. Tried ENBboos memory patch, It doesn't work and it f*** up my ENB. I also believe that these CTDs are related to graphical glitches (Z-fighting, Map icons that look like flickering rainbow blobs). If anyone has any idea on how to resolve I will be very grateful.Ask for any kind of additional information, like ini files etc... This is my Rig: Intel i5 6600 3.3 Ghz8.00 GB RAMNvidia GeForce GTX970MSI H170A Gaming Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceJoker Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 I'm more and more convinced that these CTDs come alongside graphical glithces. Last time I played it was running fine, but then an odd water bug appeared (underwater I could see in the distance but everything was dark and the blur effect was missing) and a minute after that it crashed (I remained in the same zone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceJoker Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 So I have tried the Papyrus log debug today and I got a crash at 12:40 If someone could help me figure out where is the "error" that caused the crash. I have also uninstalled "Axe of Hakon" which, based on the first lines, it's kinda messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceJoker Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/535152276587426720/#c530649887201639863 Followed this hoping that it would have somehow helped me... Now my crashes got like x3 more frequent.... Meh Edited April 7, 2016 by SpaceJoker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceJoker Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 So this is what I got after the last crash. I played for a good 25 minutes. It crashed while I was swimming/escaping from some bears, seconds after I closed the level up menu. [04/09/2016 - 02:23:53PM] DragonEngineFinderQuestScript::OnInit [04/09/2016 - 02:23:53PM] warning: Property TimedBlockProperty on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (00105A21) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [04/09/2016 - 02:23:53PM] warning: Property TimedBlockISMproperty on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (00105A21) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [04/09/2016 - 02:23:53PM] warning: Property Player on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (00105A21) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property What do you think about it? Perhaps Dragon Engine makes everything crash? But that seems odd, since no Dragon has spawned yet (not even Alduin, I'm using Alternate Life). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceJoker Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Tried to install the hotfix for Dragon Engine, but I still get these crashes. i'm desperate lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceJoker Posted April 24, 2016 Author Share Posted April 24, 2016 This is what I got at the last crash: [04/22/2016 - 08:08:32PM] warning: Property Player on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (FF000F4D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [04/22/2016 - 08:08:32PM] warning: Property TimedBlockISMproperty on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (FF000F4D) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [04/22/2016 - 08:08:32PM] warning: Property TimedBlockProperty on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (08034CF7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [04/22/2016 - 08:08:32PM] warning: Property Player on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (08034CF7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [04/22/2016 - 08:08:32PM] warning: Property TimedBlockISMproperty on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (08034CF7) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [04/22/2016 - 08:08:32PM] warning: Property TimedBlockProperty on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (08034CF6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [04/22/2016 - 08:08:32PM] warning: Property Player on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (08034CF6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [04/22/2016 - 08:08:32PM] warning: Property TimedBlockISMproperty on script ehs_staggerControl_Power attached to Active effect 6 on (08034CF6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property No ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bl0witup Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hi, Are you always in combat when it crashes? The variable names seem to allude to a script related to that.. 1:) Remove any mod(s) that might be related, including Dragon Engine, and start a new game, just for testing, and teleport around killing things to see if it crashes again. Process of elimination style. 2:) I don't know how many save games you keep, but it's a good idea to keep a few to go back to. This has solved my issues many times. I keep like a hundred or so save games, cycling through increments of ten every major story or quest milestone, because when you have so many mods, something is bound to f*** up sooner or later. 3:) Don't add/remove mods halfway though a game. Removing them is the main issue, but when you remove them or change their variables it seems to cause dramas later on... 4:) Do a text search on the scripts folder to see what ones are using the mentioned variables Doesn't solve your question , but I feel your pain. I quit playing a couple of years ago because of these issues. You spend the majority of your time trying to fix the game instead of playing it. I was feeling nostalgic so I'm downloading now to have another crack.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceJoker Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 About point 3, I've been starting new games often after these crashes appeared. No, I'm not always in combat.Btw I have noticed an incompatibility between Dual Wield Parryng v3 and Action Combat, both of which affect parrying. So I'll try in that way. I'll also try searching the scripts, thanks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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