ruddy88 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Decided to start an entirely new playthrough, all new mods. First and foremost I am hoping someone can take a quick look over (load order posted below) and suggest any changes to order, or glaring oversights or issues that I may not have seen.Specifically the Gameplay Changes towards the end of the list (AGO, HiS, NockToTip) and best order of these. I love bows, and I always liked the idea of living off the land, so have made this to be a hunter/archer style playthrough. It would be very fitting for a wood elf, although I will be using a redguard more for aesthetic reasons than anything. So, starting with alternate start, and choosing the camping choice as the starter.The combination of Archery Gameplay Overhaul, Hunting in Skyrim and Nock to Tip will add an entirely new feel to archery. From a dedicated archery perk tree (Nock to tip reworks how smithing works for bows, utilising the archery tree instead of smithing), Much more customiseablility with Nock to Tips crafting as well, much better feel and behaviour with AGO (faster arrows, no auto aim etc). Hunting in Skyrim also ties in, then pairs with the new animals mods and SkyTest to create a much more "living" wilds, animal trapping, skinning etc etc, and all tied in with a new guild questline to get my bearings. I dont like my game to be frustratingly hard, but I do want the occasional challenge. I have added in Combat Behaviour Improved for its much needed boost to the flow of melee combat, which I will still need to practice. I am considering adding in something like Revenge of the Enemies, I dont want to make the game too difficult in combat, I cant stand tanks, but I would like more intelligent enemies. This is still being decided on. In any case, Deadly Dragons has been added as a must, as a hunter, I will need an ultimate prize and I want it to be a big event. Moving on.Frostfall and camping have been added, mostly because Id never used them before, and they seem to fit this semi-survivalist playthrough. Making my decisions in the wild a lot more important.I am considering adding iNeed, I had trialled this and I do like the idea of it, but even on lite settings I just find it becomes more of an annoyance than anything, and having "auto eat" on sort of defeats the purposes, just means I have to load up my inventory on more useless junk.I might re-introduce this to the list and just put up with it, I love it and I hate it at the same time.All of this is made that much more interesting with the inclusion of CoT, true Storms and Mintys lightning, making storms feel like a much bigger threat as I clammer to get a tent put up in the middle of a blizzard. Interesting NPCs and imersive patrols have been added to make towns a bit more of a new experience (I still havent really experienced interesting NPCs yet), as well as make the roads a little more travelled and provide some interesting encounters while on the roads. The texture packs are all just done by preference, as are the standalone armor and weapons, though immersive armor and weapons is a staple on any playthrough. Falskaar and Wyrmtooth are being added simply because I have never played them before. Holy crap, Sounds of Skyrim adds a whole new dynamic to the game. Tested this out recently and while roaming the woods I can no longer completely rely on sounds as dead giveaways for attacks. I hear animal calls all the time, rightly so, and every time I do i always have a moment of alertness, unsheathing my bow and scouting my surroundings. Its great that this so often amounts to nothing and is simply an ambient noise, on those odd occasions it is a real threat it feels that much more dangerous... Although not in the beginning list, I am thinking of adding an alchemy overhaul of sorts, its not something I typically indulge in but I think a basic knowledge of floral medicines would come in handy when camping out in the woods. No followers yet, I plan on flying solo for some time. I may look at adding a suitable companion, perhaps even an alchemist companion to fill that gap, but will first experience the lands solo. Let me know what you think of this list, and if you have any suggestions (stable, script light options only at this stage) or alternatives. Aswell as any glaring oversights in my load order. Install and Load order as follows: ---Non-NMM---SKSE w/ Memory patchENBoost + ENB v0279 ---VANILLA COMPONENTS---Skyrim.esmDLC x3HighRes Texture Pack (official)Unnofficial high res patchUSLEP ---BASE INSTALL---Skyrim Project OptimisationSkyUIEnhanced Camera ---VISUALS---Ruins Clutter ImprovedUltimate HD FireSkyrim Distance OverhaulSMIMSkyrim HDSkyrim Realistic Overhaul (Overwrite)Immersive Fallen TreesFences of SkyrimHD IVYIvy ReplacementNatural Grass TextureRealistic Water TwoWaves 1.0 (Transparent Wave spray for RW2)PW Landscape Textures (Part of Pure Waters, replace textures).Dust EffectsRealistic Smoke and EmbersSkyrim Particle PatchSkyrim SubSurface Scattering PatchRealistic Sun and Sunglare - CoT edition ---ENVIRONMENT & WEATHER---CampfireFrostfall - (install early)Frostfall SkyUI AddonCoT V3.1COT Dawnguard and dragonborn patchSupreme Storms for CoTCoT Weather PatchTrue StormsTrue Storms CoT PatchMintys LightningMintys CoT3_1 Lightning Patch ---NEW LANDS---FalskaarWyrmstoothWoodsmans ShackPerseids Inns and Taverns - Basic (changes price of rental rooms only). ---SOUNDS---Sounds of Skyrim 1, 2, 3Check Compatibility Patches (Have to be extracted and installed manually) ---TEXTURE REPLACERS - NON LANDSCAPE---Better BloodHigh Quality FoodAmidianBorn Book of Silence (Armors and weapons etc) (check skyforge textures install correct)RugnarokBook CoversBellyAches Animal & CreaturesBellyaches HD Dragon replacer.Improved NPC ClothingImproved NPC Clothing ExpansionReal BowsLeanwolfs Better Shaped Weapons ---BODY AND ANIMS---RacemenuRacemenu Pre-Cache KillerCover Khajits M & FForgotten Argonian RootsKS HairdosSG HairDIMONIZED UNP BodyUNPB Body NMM Installer - TBBPFitness Body Pre-BlendedAllInOne FaceAllInOne Face - DawnguardMature Skin Texture (body and face UNP only)SkySight MalesThe Eyes Of beauty - Replacer versionHD TeethHD NormalsBeards & BrowsNMUBSRealistic RagdollsXP32 Max - install "Groovtama's XPMS Extended" and use default settingsFNIS & SpellsVampire Lord ArmouredBijin WivesBijin Warmaidens ---NEW CREATURES AND NPCS---Birds of SkyrimImproved fish (Change master to USLEP)Dogs of SkyrimDeadly DragonsInteresting NPCs Interesting NPCs Alternate LocationsInteresting NPCs - Meshes for vampiresImmersive Patrols (Optional, confirm stability first)Guard Dialogue Overhaul ---AI CHANGES---Immersive CitizensSkyTEST ---WEAPONS AND ARMORS---UNP Female ArmorsUNP Boot PackImmersive ArmorsImmersive WeaponsWearable LanternsBandaliers Bags and PouchesJaySuS SwordsWinter is ComingUnique Bows CollectionUnique UniquesUNP Rogue HDNorthgirl ArmorPrince and Pauper + PatchesBelt Fastened QuiversTravel Attire ---GAMEPLAY CHANGES---Combat Behaviour ImprovedHunting in Skyrim (May have to use no perks version or make a Patch yourself)Archery Gameplay OverhaulNock to Tip - Should overwrite bash animation of AGO. ---LATE MODS---Alternate StartDynavision ---PATCHES--- Nock to tip Patches:Immersive WeaponsUnique Bows CollectionTrue Storms, CoT and Mintys patches.SoS patches for CoT. 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Nystel Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Looks like a solid list. COT is very script heavy. If you start to have lag look into replacing it with Pure Weather or Vivid Weather Systems, which are much lighter. Looks like you are still using the vanilla perks. If you want a little perk system, check out SPERG. That is what I am using. It is very lite weight compared to SkyRe or Requiem. There is no extra patching involved. To help with your immersion, look into Immersive Hud. For a smaller mouse cursor, which is nice, and thinner compass; look for Smaller Cursor and A Thinner Compass. Check out moreHud and Active Hud too. Also, for more immersion, Jaxon Real Names. It names all the NPCs in the game and People are Strangers. Every NPC, except popular ones, will be a stranger to you until you talk to them. Then Real Names will give them a name. This is just me, but I prefer Pure Waters to Realistic Water 2. What ENB are you using? I am using Phinix, which recommends COT. It is nice. Very natural looking, no over saturation. If you want a gloom darker game, I highly recommend Bleak ENB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nystel Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 BTW you did a lot of work on this post, so I had to respond to it. I never get a response to my mod lists. I didnt want to be a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivala Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Nice list! I am currently going for hunter as well, I would recommend iNeed, but in the MCM , tweak the hunger/thirst so you only need food/water once a day, also set your timescale to 15 or 10 (20=vanilla) with iNeed. This makes time more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nystel Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Your right Shivala, but I never liked iNeed. The timescale can also be adjusted when creating the bash patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivala Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Well, you can always RP , the old way... Just eat and drink everyday ;)I recentely tried Rn&d, but it is even more invasive than iNeed. Plus it bugs with Hunterborn. Edited March 31, 2016 by Shivala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nystel Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Yea, it is a bigger mod. It has compadibility patches with Hunterborn. I use both and it works fine. The problem with iNeed is that many mods dont have patches for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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