NightWolf2169 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 First of all, thank you for taking the time to look at this. I have downloaded quite a few mods and thought that I followed all directions correctly and blah blah blah. I have SKSE, Loot, run FNIS, Wrye Bash, and even have TES5Edit (though I have no idea what to do with it). The problems I am having are this: while playing my game sometimes will randomly crashing to desktop, but more often it just ends up freezing; for some reason I cannot tell followers to go home, every time I do they go through the dialogue but end up still following me; whenever I crouch with a follower present, they will casually walk away until I stand back up; and I get an infinite loading screen a bit often when I go to load a save. Reverting back to a previous save helps for a while, but eventually I will get another infinite loading screen when going back into the world from somewhere indoors. I am not sure if all of this is due to a mod conflict or load order or what (since its probably kind of obvious I am new to modding and such), but any help and advice you guys can give me would be massively appreciated. PS - provided these issues get worked out, I was also wondering if it would work/be worthwhile to add these two mods as well:http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74565/? - Invasion of Skyrim http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74638/? - Holds the City Overhaul Here is a list of the mods/order copied from Loot: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 6 6 RaceCompatibility.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 Campfire.esm 9 9 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 10 a Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 11 b CompanionArissa.esm 12 c RE_RealEstate_Core.esp 13 d ApachiiHairFemales.esm 14 e Falskaar.esm 15 f Wyrmstooth.esp 16 10 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm 17 11 SkyMoMod.esm 18 12 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 19 13 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp 20 14 HighResTexturePack01.esp 21 15 HighResTexturePack02.esp 22 16 HighResTexturePack03.esp 23 17 banditmodfinalversion.esp 24 18 thefrontier.esp 25 19 quest_thebiggertheyare.esp 26 1a quest_nomercy.esp 27 1b quest_seaofghosts.esp 28 1c quest_pitfighter.esp 29 1d midas magic expanded.esp 30 1e quest_sorcery.esp 31 1f quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp 32 20 ket_fang.esp 33 21 crimsonquest2.esp Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp 34 22 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 35 23 SkyUI.esp 36 24 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 37 25 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 38 26 FISS.esp 39 27 RaceMenu.esp 40 28 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 41 29 Brows.esp 42 2a FNISspells.esp 43 2b RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 44 2c Dual Sheath Redux.esp 45 2d KS Hairdo's.esp 46 2e TrueEyes.esp 47 2f WetandCold.esp 48 30 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 49 31 Frostfall.esp 50 32 RealShelter.esp 51 33 RSPatch.esp 52 34 iHUD.esp 53 35 AMatterOfTime.esp 54 36 1nivWICCloaks.esp 55 37 Cloaks.esp 56 38 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 57 39 iNeed.esp 58 3a iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp 59 3b Holidays.esp 60 3c Hunterborn.esp 61 3d dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 62 3e SMIM-Merged-All.esp Helgen Reborn.esp 63 3f Tel_Nalta.esp 64 40 dovahkiinrelax.esp 65 41 PumpingIron.esp 66 42 SMDropLitTorch.esp 67 43 JaxonzNameGen.esp 68 44 RedMountainErupts.esp 69 45 Birdsofskyrim.esp 70 46 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 71 47 MVABasic.esp 72 48 FNIS.esp 73 49 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 74 4a ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp 75 4b ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp 76 4c ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp 77 4d ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp 78 4e ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp 79 4f ABT - Merchants Arrows +50%.esp 80 50 ABT - Recover +35% Arrows and Bolts.esp 81 51 TakeNotes.esp 82 52 FishingInSkyrim.esp 83 53 Hunting in Skyrim.esp 84 54 Convenient Horses.esp 85 55 Convenient Horse Herding.esp 86 56 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 87 57 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp 88 58 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp 89 59 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 90 5a My Home Is Your Home.esp 91 5b winterhold_improvements.esp 92 5c CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp 93 5d Darkwater Lodge.esp 94 5e ESFAela.esp 95 5f ESFCompanions.esp 96 60 Immersive Weapons.esp 97 61 HunterRangerCrafting.esp 98 62 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 99 63 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp100 64 Nature of the beast.esp101 65 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp102 66 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp103 67 dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch v4.esp104 68 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp105 69 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp106 6a Dr_Bandolier.esp107 6b Lorelei.esp108 6c RE_RealEstate.esp109 6d Run For Your Lives.esp110 6e When Vampires Attack.esp111 6f students.esp112 70 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp113 71 HoldBorderBanners.esp114 72 Immersive Patrols II.esp115 73 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp116 74 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp117 75 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp118 76 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp119 77 RND_AnimalLoot.esp120 78 RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp121 79 Realistic crime report radius.esp122 7a Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp123 7b LostGrimoire.esp124 7c KhalSpellmakingMod.esp125 7d Stolen Items.esp126 7e DEOS - Base.esp127 7f DGBrotherhood.esp128 80 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp129 81 Populus.esp130 82 TravellersOfSkyrim - UFO Compatibility Patch.esp131 83 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn and Bags and Pouches Addon.esp132 84 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp133 85 Better Vampires.esp134 86 DeadlyDragons.esp135 87 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp136 88 PsikoticsSkyMoNecro.esp137 89 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp138 8a Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp139 8b Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp140 8c Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp141 8d RiftenVampireHunterHouse.esp142 8e lanterns.esp143 8f Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp144 90 LeftHandRings.esp145 91 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp146 92 LeftHandRings - Enchanted.esp147 93 SL99GRings.esp148 94 SofiaFollower.esp149 95 FZDBFalkreathResurrect.esp150 96 FZGuildOutpost_DLC01.esp151 97 FZGuildOutposts.esp152 98 FZGuildOutpostsDLC02.esp153 99 SassyTeen.esp154 9a Sassy.esp155 9b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp156 9c ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp157 9d ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp158 9e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp159 9f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp160 a0 mintylightningmod.esp161 a1 MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp162 a2 RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp163 a3 HolmwoodNahkin.esp164 a4 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp165 a5 niflheim1.esp166 a6 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp167 a7 Undeath.esp168 a8 Extended Encounters.esp169 a9 GuildStarter.esp170 aa HearthfireMultiKid.esp171 ab HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp172 ac sandboxcylinderheight.esp173 ad vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp174 ae PP_WindcallerPass.esp175 af PP_OgmundsTomb.esp176 b0 PP_EngelmannRest.esp177 b1 Inigo.esp178 b2 Bridge Farm.esp179 b3 buildablehouse.esp180 b4 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp PS - I plan to activate Helgen Reborn, but TES Arena I have not been able to totally remove so I've just not activated it. 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Reynard131 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Move USLEP from Item #10 to Item #5 and go from there ... test the crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightWolf2169 Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 It is still having the infinite loading screen issue and now is becoming unresponsive so I have to force close it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard131 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 It is still having the infinite loading screen issue and now is becoming unresponsive so I have to force close it. Good luck http://wiki.step-project.com/Main_Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdfeelgood Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 That sure is a lot of mods! I can't really address a lot of that list because I don't even recognize all of them, however two immediate issues are: USLEEP should be right after skyrim + DLC, says so on the mod page. Also why are you using both iNeed and realistic needs and diseases when they essentially do the same thing? It might be a good idea to pare that list down some. Anyway an immediate thing you can do to help your game stability would be cleaning your mods with TESVedit, including the masters. Here is a good video on that process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3g_N1jcZQ. I would also recommend Gopher's other videos on modding skyrim. Hope this is helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightWolf2169 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Moved it, and I'm not totally sure why either. I may have accidentally done that or read that a mod needed them or something. I think I will remove iNeed unless someone suggests otherwise lol. I'll check out the videos now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightWolf2169 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 So I ran TES5Edit and Loot, cleaned everything that Loot said had ITM stuff in TES5Edit (using "Apply clean filter" and then "delete duplicate records" or whatever it is too tired to look it back up), moved USLEP to slot #5, removed iNeed, and it seems like the game is running better. However, my game is still freezing and crashing when I am running out of Riverwood and towards Helgen (though I havent tried going anywhere else yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primem0ver Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) Your follower problem is likely caused by UFO. From what I have read UFO is notorious for compatibility problems and other issues (though I cannot tell from experience because I have never used it). AFT (Amazing Follower Tweaks) on occasion has the same follower issue though there are ways to get fix it or get around it when it happens. The most stable follower mod in my experience is EFF (extensible follower framework) though I still use AFT because I can't seem to live without its extensive follower outfit options. Load screen problems and crashes tend to be something you get when you have lots of mods. There are fixes for these issues with the memory patch and modern versions of SKSE (search for memory patch on google... there are two different versions that are NOT compatible with each other). These have fixed all my load screen hangs and most of my CTD's. EDIT: That area is notorious for crashes because there are a lot of resources in that area (on the road from Helgen to Riverwood). It is best to find a place where it consistently happens. IF you find such a place, then it is probably being caused by a mod (I have found this to be the case on more than one occasion... but I cannot remember which mod since it has been a long itme). If not, then the memory patch should fix it. Edited April 4, 2016 by primem0ver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightWolf2169 Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Odd thing is I have never had an issue with UFO until now/last time I updated NMM. Should I just uninstall it and get EFF (is it compatable with AFT or just use one or the other?) and start a new game? I have SKSE up to date, does it really matter if I use the Skyrim Memory Patch or SSE (as in is one better than the other)? I will try to go to a new area later on today when I have more time and see if it still acts up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primem0ver Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 One is not better than the other. However, if you use SKSE, it is just more simple to use SKSE (just make sure you configure it properly). As for the follower mods: NONE are compatible with each other. They all override stuff that the other does. Make absolutely sure that you follow ALL the instructions for UFO removal if you decide to remove it. Otherwise it will make your problems worse. If you just started a game, it may be better to just restart with the new follower mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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