Skyrim Mod Help (Crashing/Infinite Loading Screen)

[NightWolf2169]

First of all, thank you for taking the time to look at this.

 

I have downloaded quite a few mods and thought that I followed all directions correctly and blah blah blah. I have SKSE, Loot, run FNIS, Wrye Bash, and even have TES5Edit (though I have no idea what to do with it). The problems I am having are this: while playing my game sometimes will randomly crashing to desktop, but more often it just ends up freezing; for some reason I cannot tell followers to go home, every time I do they go through the dialogue but end up still following me; whenever I crouch with a follower present, they will casually walk away until I stand back up; and I get an infinite loading screen a bit often when I go to load a save. Reverting back to a previous save helps for a while, but eventually I will get another infinite loading screen when going back into the world from somewhere indoors. I am not sure if all of this is due to a mod conflict or load order or what (since its probably kind of obvious I am new to modding and such), but any help and advice you guys can give me would be massively appreciated.

 

PS - provided these issues get worked out, I was also wondering if it would work/be worthwhile to add these two mods as well:

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74565/? - Invasion of Skyrim

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74638/? - Holds the City Overhaul

 

Here is a list of the mods/order copied from Loot:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

6 6 RaceCompatibility.esm

7 7 ApachiiHair.esm

8 8 Campfire.esm

9 9 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

10 a Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

11 b CompanionArissa.esm

12 c RE_RealEstate_Core.esp

13 d ApachiiHairFemales.esm

14 e Falskaar.esm

15 f Wyrmstooth.esp

16 10 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

17 11 SkyMoMod.esm

18 12 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

19 13 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

20 14 HighResTexturePack01.esp

21 15 HighResTexturePack02.esp

22 16 HighResTexturePack03.esp

23 17 banditmodfinalversion.esp

24 18 thefrontier.esp

25 19 quest_thebiggertheyare.esp

26 1a quest_nomercy.esp

27 1b quest_seaofghosts.esp

28 1c quest_pitfighter.esp

29 1d midas magic expanded.esp

30 1e quest_sorcery.esp

31 1f quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp

32 20 ket_fang.esp

33 21 crimsonquest2.esp

Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp

34 22 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

35 23 SkyUI.esp

36 24 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

37 25 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp

38 26 FISS.esp

39 27 RaceMenu.esp

40 28 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

41 29 Brows.esp

42 2a FNISspells.esp

43 2b RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

44 2c Dual Sheath Redux.esp

45 2d KS Hairdo's.esp

46 2e TrueEyes.esp

47 2f WetandCold.esp

48 30 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

49 31 Frostfall.esp

50 32 RealShelter.esp

51 33 RSPatch.esp

52 34 iHUD.esp

53 35 AMatterOfTime.esp

54 36 1nivWICCloaks.esp

55 37 Cloaks.esp

56 38 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

57 39 iNeed.esp

58 3a iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

59 3b Holidays.esp

60 3c Hunterborn.esp

61 3d dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

62 3e SMIM-Merged-All.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

63 3f Tel_Nalta.esp

64 40 dovahkiinrelax.esp

65 41 PumpingIron.esp

66 42 SMDropLitTorch.esp

67 43 JaxonzNameGen.esp

68 44 RedMountainErupts.esp

69 45 Birdsofskyrim.esp

70 46 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

71 47 MVABasic.esp

72 48 FNIS.esp

73 49 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

74 4a ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp

75 4b ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp

76 4c ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp

77 4d ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp

78 4e ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp

79 4f ABT - Merchants Arrows +50%.esp

80 50 ABT - Recover +35% Arrows and Bolts.esp

81 51 TakeNotes.esp

82 52 FishingInSkyrim.esp

83 53 Hunting in Skyrim.esp

84 54 Convenient Horses.esp

85 55 Convenient Horse Herding.esp

86 56 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

87 57 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

88 58 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp

89 59 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

90 5a My Home Is Your Home.esp

91 5b winterhold_improvements.esp

92 5c CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp

93 5d Darkwater Lodge.esp

94 5e ESFAela.esp

95 5f ESFCompanions.esp

96 60 Immersive Weapons.esp

97 61 HunterRangerCrafting.esp

98 62 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

99 63 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

100 64 Nature of the beast.esp

101 65 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

102 66 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

103 67 dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch v4.esp

104 68 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

105 69 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

106 6a Dr_Bandolier.esp

107 6b Lorelei.esp

108 6c RE_RealEstate.esp

109 6d Run For Your Lives.esp

110 6e When Vampires Attack.esp

111 6f students.esp

112 70 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp

113 71 HoldBorderBanners.esp

114 72 Immersive Patrols II.esp

115 73 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

116 74 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

117 75 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

118 76 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

119 77 RND_AnimalLoot.esp

120 78 RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp

121 79 Realistic crime report radius.esp

122 7a Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

123 7b LostGrimoire.esp

124 7c KhalSpellmakingMod.esp

125 7d Stolen Items.esp

126 7e DEOS - Base.esp

127 7f DGBrotherhood.esp

128 80 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp

129 81 Populus.esp

130 82 TravellersOfSkyrim - UFO Compatibility Patch.esp

131 83 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn and Bags and Pouches Addon.esp

132 84 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

133 85 Better Vampires.esp

134 86 DeadlyDragons.esp

135 87 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

136 88 PsikoticsSkyMoNecro.esp

137 89 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp

138 8a Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp

Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp

139 8b Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

140 8c Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp

141 8d RiftenVampireHunterHouse.esp

142 8e lanterns.esp

143 8f Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp

144 90 LeftHandRings.esp

145 91 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp

146 92 LeftHandRings - Enchanted.esp

147 93 SL99GRings.esp

148 94 SofiaFollower.esp

149 95 FZDBFalkreathResurrect.esp

150 96 FZGuildOutpost_DLC01.esp

151 97 FZGuildOutposts.esp

152 98 FZGuildOutpostsDLC02.esp

153 99 SassyTeen.esp

154 9a Sassy.esp

155 9b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

156 9c ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

157 9d ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp

158 9e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

159 9f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

160 a0 mintylightningmod.esp

161 a1 MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

162 a2 RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp

163 a3 HolmwoodNahkin.esp

164 a4 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

165 a5 niflheim1.esp

166 a6 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

167 a7 Undeath.esp

168 a8 Extended Encounters.esp

169 a9 GuildStarter.esp

170 aa HearthfireMultiKid.esp

171 ab HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

172 ac sandboxcylinderheight.esp

173 ad vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp

174 ae PP_WindcallerPass.esp

175 af PP_OgmundsTomb.esp

176 b0 PP_EngelmannRest.esp

177 b1 Inigo.esp

178 b2 Bridge Farm.esp

179 b3 buildablehouse.esp

180 b4 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

PS - I plan to activate Helgen Reborn, but TES Arena I have not been able to totally remove so I've just not activated it.

[Reynard131]

Move USLEP from Item #10 to Item #5 and go from there ... test the crap...

[NightWolf2169]

It is still having the infinite loading screen issue and now is becoming unresponsive so I have to force close it.

[Reynard131]

It is still having the infinite loading screen issue and now is becoming unresponsive so I have to force close it.

 

Good luck

 

http://wiki.step-project.com/Main_Page

[mdfeelgood]

That sure is a lot of mods!

 

I can't really address a lot of that list because I don't even recognize all of them, however two immediate issues are: USLEEP should be right after skyrim + DLC, says so on the mod page. Also why are you using both iNeed and realistic needs and diseases when they essentially do the same thing? It might be a good idea to pare that list down some.

 

Anyway an immediate thing you can do to help your game stability would be cleaning your mods with TESVedit, including the masters. Here is a good video on that process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3g_N1jcZQ. I would also recommend Gopher's other videos on modding skyrim. Hope this is helpful.

[NightWolf2169]

Moved it, and I'm not totally sure why either. I may have accidentally done that or read that a mod needed them or something. I think I will remove iNeed unless someone suggests otherwise lol. I'll check out the videos now.

[NightWolf2169]

So I ran TES5Edit and Loot, cleaned everything that Loot said had ITM stuff in TES5Edit (using "Apply clean filter" and then "delete duplicate records" or whatever it is too tired to look it back up), moved USLEP to slot #5, removed iNeed, and it seems like the game is running better. However, my game is still freezing and crashing when I am running out of Riverwood and towards Helgen (though I havent tried going anywhere else yet).

[primem0ver]

Your follower problem is likely caused by UFO. From what I have read UFO is notorious for compatibility problems and other issues (though I cannot tell from experience because I have never used it). AFT (Amazing Follower Tweaks) on occasion has the same follower issue though there are ways to get fix it or get around it when it happens. The most stable follower mod in my experience is EFF (extensible follower framework) though I still use AFT because I can't seem to live without its extensive follower outfit options.

 

Load screen problems and crashes tend to be something you get when you have lots of mods. There are fixes for these issues with the memory patch and modern versions of SKSE (search for memory patch on google... there are two different versions that are NOT compatible with each other). These have fixed all my load screen hangs and most of my CTD's.

 

 

EDIT: That area is notorious for crashes because there are a lot of resources in that area (on the road from Helgen to Riverwood). It is best to find a place where it consistently happens. IF you find such a place, then it is probably being caused by a mod (I have found this to be the case on more than one occasion... but I cannot remember which mod since it has been a long itme). If not, then the memory patch should fix it.

Edited April 4, 2016 by primem0ver

[NightWolf2169]

Odd thing is I have never had an issue with UFO until now/last time I updated NMM. Should I just uninstall it and get EFF (is it compatable with AFT or just use one or the other?) and start a new game? I have SKSE up to date, does it really matter if I use the Skyrim Memory Patch or SSE (as in is one better than the other)? I will try to go to a new area later on today when I have more time and see if it still acts up.

[primem0ver]

One is not better than the other. However, if you use SKSE, it is just more simple to use SKSE (just make sure you configure it properly).

 

As for the follower mods: NONE are compatible with each other. They all override stuff that the other does. Make absolutely sure that you follow ALL the instructions for UFO removal if you decide to remove it. Otherwise it will make your problems worse. If you just started a game, it may be better to just restart with the new follower mod.