BloXboX Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hello guys .. So, Ive played Hardcore mode for about 2 months now. It isnt a lot and thats the main reason i am here for. I could use some tips for Hardcore mode, Or rather what you do in hardcore mode etc. Usualy i like to take supplies with me when i travel out. 10 - 15 Bottler of H20, 8 - 10 Gecko Steaks etc .. But i need some more tips or even something new to do, My character often ends up getting tired too so that just sucks .. Either way, How do you play with Hardcore mode on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Well I have a backpack mod that allows me to store stuff in it (can´t find it) and a mod that enables us to pick up the bedrolls (http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=39067&navtag=file/images.php?id=39067&tab=3).When I´m not on a mission I´m exploring and scavanging to sell stuff to other scavangers.I play during the night as my character is a vampire and takes damage during the day.I also take water and some food and bloodpacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakeelvin Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) Here are some ideas to consider: 25 Survival Skill = Gecko Steaks: one of the most plentiful, low-rad and good healing food items going. And no hassle! Just throw the meat on the campfire and they turn into steaks! Yummy! No simpler recipe in the book! 30 Survival Skill = Cactus Water: if you are dilligent you'll have more water than you need and sell the rest, its a decent cash cow ... save your soda bottles and harvest all the cactus you can find, there is tons of it after you reach the vicinity of Wolfhorn Ranch, if you are coming through Nipton. Eat on the fly ... don't make planning every meal a big priority, some examples of what I mean below: Worrying about radiation from food is overrated. You don't need to take 2 rads for 30 FOD, just sell that junkfood, but 1 or 2 rads for 60+ FOD is fine. It lasts a long time. If you find a squirrel stew and you're hungry, eat it. Don't go easy on the aguave sauce. There are lots of plants out there like Aguave that individiually seem worthless but just harvest and eat them on the spot ... think about the multiplication value of 3, 4 or 5 plants if you are dilligent. If you find 10 buffalo gord seeds those add about 15 FOD each thats 150 FOD, and you find them everywhere. And many of these plants help hydrate you as well. So basically just pay attention to where you're at and grab plants that you come across in your travels. And if you fast travel a lot just loot fridges and stuff in dungeons you loot and take the food ... don't worry about 1 or 2 rads for a decent meal, its nothing! One pack of Rad-Away will cure you for a months food! Know your campfires: Goodsprings Source, Primm, Nipton Road, the Gas Station north of Novac on 93, Grub'n'Gulp, and one in Freeside right beside the gate to the Vegas Strip and it's got a travel marker. And many others, those I mentioned are just on the main quest route to Vegas. Hardcore rules. The healing value of all those dozens of Gecko steaks I ate was tremendous, not to mention filling. I've put on weight, thank goodness the designers only gave us one body type. The Gecko-Environmentalists are still after me though ... Here they come again ... gotta run! ;) Edited June 21, 2011 by drakeelvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marharth Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 There are certain plants like coyate tobacco chew that make it so you don't need to sleep. So if you get a ton of anti sleep plants then you should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloXboX Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Here are some ideas to consider: 25 Survival Skill = Gecko Steaks: one of the most plentiful, low-rad and good healing food items going. And no hassle! Just throw the meat on the campfire and they turn into steaks! Yummy! No simpler recipe in the book! 30 Survival Skill = Cactus Water: if you are dilligent you'll have more water than you need and sell the rest, its a decent cash cow ... save your soda bottles and harvest all the cactus you can find, there is tons of it after you reach the vicinity of Wolfhorn Ranch, if you are coming through Nipton. Eat on the fly ... don't make planning every meal a big priority, some examples of what I mean below: Worrying about radiation from food is overrated. You don't need to take 2 rads for 30 FOD, just sell that junkfood, but 1 or 2 rads for 60+ FOD is fine. It lasts a long time. If you find a squirrel stew and you're hungry, eat it. Don't go easy on the aguave sauce. There are lots of plants out there like Aguave that individiually seem worthless but just harvest and eat them on the spot ... think about the multiplication value of 3, 4 or 5 plants if you are dilligent. If you find 10 buffalo gord seeds those add about 15 FOD each thats 150 FOD, and you find them everywhere. And many of these plants help hydrate you as well. So basically just pay attention to where you're at and grab plants that you come across in your travels. And if you fast travel a lot just loot fridges and stuff in dungeons you loot and take the food ... don't worry about 1 or 2 rads for a decent meal, its nothing! One pack of Rad-Away will cure you for a months food! Know your campfires: Goodsprings Source, Primm, Nipton Road, the Gas Station north of Novac on 93, Grub'n'Gulp, and one in Freeside right beside the gate to the Vegas Strip and it's got a travel marker. And many others, those I mentioned are just on the main quest route to Vegas. Hardcore rules. The healing value of all those dozens of Gecko steaks I ate was tremendous, not to mention filling. I've put on weight, thank goodness the designers only gave us one body type. The Gecko-Environmentalists are still after me though ... Here they come again ... gotta run! ;) Impressive, Thats kind of what i do. My survival skill is 100 already, I often go to goodsprings and kill the geckos. Then i take their meat and make some steaks out of it on a camp fire. I have the " Portable Campsite " mod. It adds a portable bedroll and camp fire. Which is great for these stuff. I eat when im hungry, But i also wonder should i eat as soon as my character is slightly hungry? How much should i wait til the meter goes up to? I use Primary Needs HUD, I have harvested quite a lot .. I have about 411 Bottles of purified water, 107 Gecko Steaks at home etc .. I have a lot of supply. I was just asking for tips, I like the way you set yours up :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teespoon Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 31 New Food Items spiced Hardcore up for me, a lot. I also use the backpack/bedroll mod mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teespoon Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Oh, and I believe there is a mod that makes all stoves cook, instead of being useless storage places for pilot lights and the occasional squirrel stew. I haven't downloaded it-- yet. But you might find that helpful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennethKarl Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Look on my signature. I made a mod not to long ago that adds a portable purifier to the game. In the past I made a mod for my own use(THAT GOT DELETED) called survival tablets. The tablets were especially pills that supplied the character with all of the essentials (e.g. H2O, FOD, SLP). I'm always coming up with new recipes. I even made a mod for myself where you could make leather armor out of tanned gecko hides. Then honest hearts came out!! Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakeelvin Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) Impressive, Thats kind of what i do. My survival skill is 100 already, I often go to goodsprings and kill the geckos. Then i take their meat and make some steaks out of it on a camp fire. I have the " Portable Campsite " mod. It adds a portable bedroll and camp fire. Which is great for these stuff. I eat when im hungry, But i also wonder should i eat as soon as my character is slightly hungry? How much should i wait til the meter goes up to? I use Primary Needs HUD, I have harvested quite a lot .. I have about 411 Bottles of purified water, 107 Gecko Steaks at home etc .. I have a lot of supply. I was just asking for tips, I like the way you set yours up :D Ah, I see ... Well I guess the first thing is the Novac Motel was always my base but recently I moved to the Safehouse Novac Gas Station, it's superior. All my consumables get stored in the fridge. Before a major expedition I'd go there to properly stock up, as follows: 15 bottles of water. (Pre-Novac I carried all that I found.) 3-10 Gecko Steaks. (3 for FOD, extra for healing.) For FOD/H2O a 1 Steak to 5 Water ratio balances quite well so 3/15 keeps you going strong for a few days. If I guessed the fighting would be hard, or had no clue, I'd take extra steaks for healing value. 15 Sarsaparilla. If I guessed an expedition would be easy then only 5 bottles. They're an easy way to recover 50 health and about a 1/20th chance of a Star Cap. And you find these all over the place. Early on they are especially useful around Goodsprings where water is abundant. I'd chug them for healing in preference to anything else since that is the only value they have -- and they are abundant in the wasteland. The +5 H2O is the only downside and it's not much to worry over, especially at Goodsprings, Lake Mead or The Strip where clean water is abundant. Other Food and Water Items (Looted stuff): All the FOD and H2O items I looted or farmed I'd consume on the spot based on a simple rule: start eating stuff that provides the lowest healing first so you can keep your FOD/H2O levels in good shape and if you have a fight later on you'll still be left with the food items that have the highest healing value, then you can eat them for health. Can't stress enough how so many farmed plants restore some H2O here and there it really adds up in addition to the FOD value, and they mostly have miniscule health value so I'd eat them right away. When to eat? Anytime. I continuously nibble on snacks I find (cactus, aguave, banana, etc.) if my FOD/H2O levels are such that I won't waste the value of them. And if by distraction/absorbtion in the game my H2O or FOD went to even the first level of deprivation I'd stop and have a major meal or water break. The second deprivation level can creep up fast and has some pretty severe penalties. You never know when the next hard fight may be so its good to stay topped up. If you get my Vault 21 Starter Pack its a clone of the pre-order pack and has a whiskey bottle canteen that improves with survival skill. If your survival skill is 100 you'd need no water, the canteen is enough to offset normal dehydration once you reach around 50ish survival. In a way the canteen is a cheat, but it was in the pre-order pack and I just made it even better by improving its effectiveness based on survival skill. (But I used a whiskey bottle resource because there's no vault canteen resource in the vanilla game.) P.S. Regarding getting tired, there are beds/matresses all over the place, even those cardboard bedrolls. One hour of sleep knocks off about 70ish fatigue. Just start using them for catnaps when you stumble across them anytime of day or night, and sleep deprivation won't be an issue. Once after a long day of slugging my way through Gecko's, Powder Gangers and Primm Gangsters I found myself in the SLP deprivation mode and I slept with Beagle's sister. Hey, there was no bad karma for that and at that time I still wasn't aware of the purpose of the Z key :D Edited June 22, 2011 by drakeelvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakeelvin Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) I even made a mod for myself where you could make leather armor out of tanned gecko hides. Then honest hearts came out!! Oh well. That is cool, once very early on when I first got NV I tried to use tanned gecko hides to repair merc clothing, leather and enhanced leather, and I was disappointed it didn't work. Now that I know about FormLists that could be a very easy mod to do if it's as simple as just adding to the repair list. Also, not everyone is going to get the DLC so a leather armor crafting mod like yours is valuable to many. A lot of players really enjoy the crafting aspect of the game. To me, the coolest crafting mod of them all would be a reference item that provided lookup access to all the recipes when you are out in the field and colated them with ingredients you were carrying. You would not need to be near a campire, workbench or reloading bench -- it would just help you decide what loot to take. There was only one complex crafting recipe (3+ ingredients) that I committed to memory and that was for reair kits, but there were a number of others I committed to index cards ... it was cumbersome :D Edited June 22, 2011 by drakeelvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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