ripple Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 (edited) I have a question for other modders: Recently I've received a few requests by users seeking permission to translate my mods to other languages. I am not one of those super amazing modders whose work have been celebrated as "file of the month", nor do I feel my mods approach that caliber. So this is the first time I've dealt with such requests and I do feel a bit flattered. The thing is, the users also wanted to upload the mods to sites other than the Nexus, which I am not so sure I want, since I would have no control over the management of the file and documentation hosted there. I do understand that many non-English speaking users get their mods from modding sites in their native language. Certainly, the Nexus has hosted mods translated from other languages in the past (many Japanese Oblivion mods, for instance), with the modders' blessing and proper credits. There are some sites that I absolutely do not want my mods to circulate, although none of the sites mentioned by the translators making the requests are on that blacklist. One concern I have, which was the case in some Oblivion mods that circulated to non-English websites in the past, is that they get edited (butchered, in some cases, from what I heard) by users who then re-upload them, sometimes taking credits and sometimes not, sometimes because of miscommunication, but basically a gross violation of the community norms we've come to respect and appreciate here at the Nexus. I am wondering what issues I might need to be aware of, from those who have dealt with such requests in the past? Thanks for reading. Edited June 26, 2011 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deu58 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 (edited) I think the key thing here is that they asked for permission. If somebody in another country had no courtesy or respect for the original author why they even bother to consult? I have heard of the butchering you mentioned but again why would they ask permission? If somebody is going to butcher it seems to me they could care less about permissions and they would just fold spindle and mutilate with out a care in the world about what the original author thinks. I guess just continue dialog with them and go with your heart on the matter. But if they even went to lengths providing the names of the sites they would upload to for your approval I can't help but think this person/s is sincere ad straight up Edited June 26, 2011 by deu58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 Yes, you raise a good point. Maybe I am just being somewhat paranoid, but in all cases, the users were accounts without any posting history (which made it impossible for me to ascertain their...character). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivea Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 If someone asked they should provide you with a link to the site, if not ask for one first.Make sure they will include your original readme along with the translated readme and that you are credited in it.Ask that none of your items are changed other then the translation, I had someone who wanted to cut up my mod because he didnt like the male versions in it. I said either keep it whole or not at all. But yes there are tons of sites where nexus mods are taken and uploaded and edited without permission, it seems many of the forum consider themselves "closed" enough that it does not matter what they do with anything.I consider that all BS because the full storm of that countries modders will fall on you if you do the same of their mods. I do not give permissions on any mod I really want to keep a hold of, because once its off nexus its out of your hands for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
documn Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Have you tried googling your mods? There's a chance that they're already uploaded to other sites, and they might also be edited. Another thing to consider is that some people can't get a good connection to the nexus, and rely on more local sites to host mods. (Somebody mentioned it to me before so I'm not absolutely sure that this is true, but it seems plausible.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWolf Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 People looking to just blatantly steal things don't ask first, as others here have said. I'd just ask for some details as to what he wants to do (i.e. where are you posting this? Do you intend to do anything other than translate its content to closely match the original vision? etc.), pretty much as everyone else has said. Translations are really a boon to a lot of people, though, so please at least consider the request with an open mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 Thanks for the advice everyone. Didn't mean to come across as a paranoid egoist. :) Several months ago, someone actually stole my CC Interiors mod for FO3, taking credit for it as their own work, then bundled it with Cevsteel's D.C. Interiors before re-uploading it. If Cev wasn't on top of the situation, getting it removed and letting me know about it, I don't think I would have even been aware of it. Ever since then I've been a bit more concerned about this sort of thing. I'll reply to the translators and let them know I appreciate their offers and agree so long as they consent to some conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deu58 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Nothing wrong with being concerned. People do rip stuff off. One forum I was on a guy decided to make a modpack with out asking permission. He bundled a bunch of mods together and actually uploaded them right back on the same forums down load page. Boy did it hit the fan for that poor guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie70 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I have a question for other modders: Recently I've received a few requests by users seeking permission to translate my mods to other languages. I am not one of those super amazing modders whose work have been celebrated as "file of the month", nor do I feel my mods approach that caliber. So this is the first time I've dealt with such requests and I do feel a bit flattered. The thing is, the users also wanted to upload the mods to sites other than the Nexus, which I am not so sure I want, since I would have no control over the management of the file and documentation hosted there.well you can always allow them to translate your mod but not upload it to any other site than here or whereever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrecon123 Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) i got that same message too except he specified the site he will upload it to, he translated it to russian and uploaded it to a russian site, but if you use google translate on the site the proper credits are there, i don't know if i can post the link of the site here tho, it's ok worrying about that stuff, back when i still mod GTA SA some dude stole most of my MW2 mods and took the credits, i was so pissed i removed all download links so now people just see the pictures and videos of my mods without DL links, ever since then i stopped caring about GTASA, and that same dude did not just steal from me but steal from 3 other modders i know too, his blog was full of stolen mods, nothing was made by him Edited June 28, 2011 by ghostrecon123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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