Nadimos Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) Hello, Each time i try to exit Doctor Mitchels house my game crashes. I had this behaviour, that the game crashes outside goodsprings before and i had to reinstall the game again in order to fix it, but now after adding more and more mods, it starts showing again. I dont know, what mod is causing it, so i deactivated all esp to try and see what happens, but still it crashes, so it must be something in the data folder causing it via archive invalidation, right? Anyway here is my loadorder: FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmActive Wasteland.esmCaliber.esmCHEMS.esmCINEMATECH.esmELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esmELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esmFrequency.esmPrimary Needs HUD.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmWeapon Mod Expansion.esmWME - Dead Money.esmWME - Honest Hearts.esmLings.esmbzArmour.espbzBodySuits.espPerkEveryLevel.espLFox Bottle That Water.espBluesRadioNV.espSecretStash40.espBig Band Radio.espReadius_NV.espFeng Shui NV.espThe Groovatron NV.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espProject Nevada - Rebalance.espProject Nevada - Dead Money.espProject Nevada - Honest Hearts.espActive Wasteland - Vanilla Replacements.espActive Wasteland - Dead Money Replacements.espCHEMS - Benches.espCHEMS - Basic Chems.espRustTownV1-1.espUHNV.espUHNV-Dead Money.espUHNV-Honest Hearts.espUHNV-Chems.espUWHNV-Core.espUWHNV-Addon-DLC.espUWHNV-Addon-CHEMS.espDWSigP226.espDXProject.espDWDEagle44.espAWMRifle.espTailor Maid - NV.espTGsArmorCollectionVegas.espEVE FNV.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.espWeapon Mod Expansion.espWME - Arenovalis.espWME - Dead Money.espWME - Dead Money Arenovalis Retex.espWME - Honest Hearts.espWME - Honest Hearts Arenovalis.espWME - that gun 44 mag.espWMEVE.espFrequency - EVE patch.espMeltdown Medley.espVurt's WFO.espNevada Skies.espNevada Skies - URWLHH.espDYNAVISION 2 - Dynamic Lens Effect.espELECTRO-CITY - Imaginator.espContinue After End.espMurdelizer.espTHOR.esp Total active plugins: 73Total plugins: 73 I hope someone can help me, because is dont know anymore, what could be causing this. I even removed the custom meshes from eve out of my data folder, thinking if some of those are loacted in the exterior around goodspring, it might cause a crash. I know for a fact that it are not texture replacers including vurts, that are causing this crash. Also i would like to know, if faulty textures from a mod could cause a gamecrash. It would make this crazy bughunt easier. Edited July 5, 2011 by Nadimos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmechanic2 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 put everything back, what was the very last mod you installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadimos Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) put everything back, what was the very last mod you installed? I dont know, the problem is, i always installed a few mods in a row to see how it will last. I am truly so confused, why this wont work anymore. :( Now i deactivated all plugins and it still crashes ingame, so that means there still must be something in the data folder that corrupts it via archive invalidation, right? My save is clean and i can view the area just fine in the geck. Also i checked the mods folder structure, but 90% of those mods have unique folders, that dont replace anything in the games data folder and as such should have no effect. Edited July 5, 2011 by Nadimos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmechanic2 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) put everything back, what was the very last mod you installed? I dont know, the problem is, i always installed a few mods in a row to see how it will last. I am truly so confused, why this wont work anymore. :( Now i deactivated all plugins and it still crashes ingame, so that means there still must be something in the data folder that corrupts it via archive invalidation, right? My save is clean and i can view the area just fine in the geck. Also i checked the mods folder structure, but 90% of those mods have unique folders, that dont replace anything in the games data folder and as such should have no effect.Come to this link and I think the folks here can help you out. It's my mod link and I have a feeling I can help you with your issue if you go there. It is a testing / training link dealing with the very thing your faced with. If I had more time on my hands I can pitch in there to assist you, but I always scan for HELP ME! messages in the forums. My mod there will also help you......May be. It will depend on what the team knows about what your using. Take their advice and be patience with what they instruct you to do, they will figure out whats wrong, we will I should say. Just really busy right now. robert01 is co author and he is very smart. they all are but just don't know it yet. This is a New Vegas mod team, well versed in the games. you do some reading there and you'll come to relize we are the real mcCoy's-------------------------------------------------NV Game Stabilizer Discrepant 's Edited July 5, 2011 by ccmechanic2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadimos Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) Ok, thanks for the reply, i just checked and it looks like you know a lot, but i dont see how collisions are the problem for me right now. I cannot even start my game now anymore. It started by crashing around goodsprings (to be more specific the area near the prospector saloon) and so i deactivated all mods, but it still did crash. Then i reinstalled the game and it did work again. Flawless. Then i added some basic mods (body, weather and texture mods like ojo) and it continued to work. Then i added a bunch more of my mods and it started to crash again, when exiting doctor mitchels house. This is where i am now and i deactivated all plugins, but still it crashes even on a perfectly clean save. But worse now i cannot even enter the game anymore !!! The only diffrence between that is, i once tried to start it with nevada skies and once without,because somebody suggested it could be an error with that, which also was correct on his part, but yeah......... How does it come to something like this? My computer is fine and i can play team fortress 2 without any problems, there have been no driver updates or anything of that nature. Anyway i will attempt a restart and see if it fixes something. Thanks again. Edited July 5, 2011 by Nadimos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmechanic2 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Ok, thanks for the reply, i just checked and it looks like you know a lot, but i dont see how collisions are the problem for me right now. I cannot even start my game now anymore. It started by crashing around goodsprings (to be more specific the area around the prospector saloon) and so i deactivated all mods, but it still did crash. Then i reinstalled the game and it did work again. Flawless. Then i added some basic mods (body, weather and texture mods like ojo) and it still did work. Flawless. Then i added a bunch more and it started to crash again, when exiting doctor mitchels house. This is where i am now and i deactivated all plugins, but still it crashes even on a perfectly clean save. But worse now i cannot even enter the game anymore !!! The only diffrence between that is, i once tried to start it with nevada skies and once without,because somebody suggested it could be some error with that, which also was wrong in my loadorder, but yeah just super strange and weird. An offline esp should not effect the game right. This is truly so weird.Ny documents\games\fallout.ini delete that and relaunch the game. it will come up and create a new ini. then see if the game will play, But use the games launcher options and the data and untick all mods. every time you enter the game world , exit the doc's house then save your game. Now exit and use the launcher to ad one mod data time and run the game / resume where you left off. you do this till you find which mod is messing with your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadimos Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) yep,yep. i restarted my computer now and this time i did get until the main menu, where it crashed again. i tried a second time and it crashes immediatelly again, when i try to start the game. no mods at all. just some stuff, that remains in the data folder, although i cannot see how that ever could be a problem especially with archive invalidation turned off again. guess i am gonna reinstall and start anew, one by one. still how can it become so corrupted in the first place? i never had a problem like this before, be it morrorwind, oblivion, fallout 3 or new vegas, it usually is a fine game, but this is crazy. Edited July 5, 2011 by Nadimos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccmechanic2 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 before re installing it all again, spend an hour and defrag your hard drive. I think your getting overwrite issues with the OS and the gaming files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadimos Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) with my NTFS drive it says 0% fragmented. i did reinstall the game and now it is working once again without mods. no surprise there.just gotta add my stuff now. Edited July 5, 2011 by Nadimos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts