Killing specific raiders results in Crash - CTD

[BetterCallLars]

Hello,

so I have been playing Fallout 4 for a while now, and I had my first encounter with a raider boss named Tower Tom. When I fired a shot at him, or him firing a shot at me, the game crashes. I chalked it up as a strange loss, and after a few tries, I backtracked. Later I encountered some more raiders, killing most of them just fine, even the boss this time. However, one specific raider caused another crash again, and I spent about 4 hours figuring out what was wrong.

I eventually found this post on the forum:
http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3699950-crashing-with-raiders/

And Mr. Rak3187 posted a suggestion saying it was a CBBE related issue. I didn't have the mod he mentioned, but I uninstalled most of my CBBE files, reinstalled them, and it worked fine afterwards. I even loaded way back to my encounter with Tom and killed him just fine. Even shot him somewhere naughty for all the pain he caused me.

Anyway, that was my issue. However, I'll post what else I tried in case someone else isn't as fortunate as me. I know some had a tougher, and more severe cases than I.

 

What I know:

 

Both were raiders
Both were males
One was human, one was ghoul
Both had different items/armors

Both can be killed with consoled command "kill" without game crashing

 

Extra Noteworthy:

Game seems to crash if I shoot body - dead or alive.

 

I recall a reddit post about gore textures being corrupted - Link is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/447n7w/fallout_4_crash_when_i_shoot_enemies/
loismustdie555 pointed out: Not sure if this is an issue still but I fixed this by deleting the folder "Fallout 4/Data/Textures/gore" Some of the gore textures were corrupted.

I suspected I had a relatable case, yet I have no blood splatter mod enabled, and no folder to delete. I tried to override both mesh and texture gore files with vanilla assets from last year - (I extracted all assets at Fallout 4 launch). Override did nothing.

 

Other things I have done:

Validated game files (Steam)
Messed around with a new graphical edition: "weapon debries" in Advanced options on launcher.

If none of these things work either, I don't know what to tell you other than good luck, my friend.

 

- Better Call Lars



Related articles I found by googling - Inspired actions taken:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3699950-crashing-with-raiders/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/44bce2/my_game_crash_when_i_shoot_certain_enemies/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/458607699614390157/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/458606877333112030/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/496881136909827612/

Not very helpful - But I did look into some of those as well.

Edited April 21, 2016 by BetterCallLars

[BetterCallLars]

Update = Seems the reinstalling of CBBE files just shuffled around which raiders were affected by the crash bug. Will post more later when I can isolate cause.

[Genuar]

Got the same problem. Reinstalling mods doesn't help. Was catching ctd's while was shooting specific raiders. After few pathetic attempts to load normally noticed that there is only one raider is a cause ctd. Decided to investigate this problem in developer room by using the console command for npc spawn. By the investigation found that just few types of the npc groups are cause of crashes(for me). it's - gunners: commander, corporal, captain. raiders: survivalist. tried a lot of npcs, just those four groups are cause a ctd's for me, no matter which gender npc are. the most funny thing is that, i've tried to spawn npc's from the each group from one npc to five. when i was trying to spawn one npc by one, it took three spawns to get ctd. when i've spawned small "control squad" of five npc's (i've used few "ai" commands so they were spawning in the line) game crashed on 4th one and when i've loaded game again and shot 5th one, nothing happend, shot 4th again - ctd.

well, thats pretty much all what i know for now. i'll keep looking for something identical between those "ctd npc's". i hope this will help somehow.

 

Found an thing, after starting new game, teleporting in "dvl" found that ctd's are coming after 30 level.

 

P.S. sorry for too much letters and errors xD

Edited May 22, 2016 by Genuar

[hornedskulldrake]

Got the same problem. Reinstalling mods doesn't help. Was catching ctd's while was shooting specific raiders. After few pathetic attempts to load normally noticed that there is only one raider is a cause ctd. Decided to investigate this problem in developer room by using the console command for npc spawn. By the investigation found that just few types of the npc groups are cause of crashes(for me). it's - gunners: commander, corporal, captain. raiders: survivalist. tried a lot of npcs, just those four groups are cause a ctd's for me, no matter which gender npc are. the most funny thing is that, i've tried to spawn npc's from the each group from one npc to five. when i was trying to spawn one npc by one, it took three spawns to get ctd. when i've spawned small "control squad" of five npc's (i've used few "ai" commands so they were spawning in the line) game crashed on 4th one and when i've loaded game again and shot 5th one, nothing happend, shot 4th again - ctd.

well, thats pretty much all what i know for now. i'll keep looking for something identical between those "ctd npc's". i hope this will help somehow.

 

Found an thing, after starting new game, teleporting in "dvl" found that ctd's are coming after 30 level.

 

P.S. sorry for too much letters and errors xD

 

yep same goes for me too only those specific enemy that cause ctd and yes only MALE even though i only installed female CBBE, did you manage to fix this or anything new in the investigation?