Oblivion Won't Start after updating to Wrye Bash > 291

[thrillseeker3242]

Everything's working fine. Then I try to update Wrye Bash to version 292 or 293, and suddenly Oblivion won't work anymore. I get an instant crash no matter how I attempt to launch it, with or without OBSE.

 

I installed Wrye Bash by extracting the contents from the 7z archive and overwriting the existing files. I think I installed it using the auto-installer before with the same result.

 

One time this happened and I think I was able to get Oblivion to work after reverting to Wrye Bash 291 and rebuilding my Oblivion ini (moving the entire My Games/Oblivion directory with ini, saves etc.). But that no longer seems to work. The last time I think I only got Oblivion working by reinstalling from scratch and never installing Wrye Bash 292 or 293.

 

I'll post my load order, but I don't think it's relevant, since this exact same loader order was working fine before upgrading Wrye Bash. If starting up Wrye Bash changed my load order, turning off load times and running BOSS again should have put them back exactly how they were. Also, if I click "Reset to defaults" in the Data window in Oblivion Launcher, so that only Oblivion.esm is selected, I still get the exact same immediate crash upon trying to launch.

 

Also, Nehrim won't launch either. I never attempted to launch it before experiencing this problem. And actually, I was able to get it to launch one time--I got to the initial screen (New Game, Load, etc) where I changed the video options. Then after exiting, I now have the same crash as with oblivion when I attempt to start it. Which make it sound like it's a problem with the ini? But rebuilding the ini file, moving the ini directory, and changing video settings using Oblivion Launcher don't seem to help.

 

What is updating Wrye Bash doing that is causing this to happen? What COULD Wrype Bash do that could cause this to happen anyway? What can prevent Oblivion from launching, even if load order is correct, even with fresh ini settings, even with no mods active at all? This is so annoying and frustrating! :wallbash: Thanks for the help.

 

Windows 7 64-bit

Oblivion installed in C:\Games\Oblivion

Oblivion Version 1.2.0416 (SI)

 

Load Order:

 

Oblivion.esm

Morrowind_ob.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

Fran Armor Add-on.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Enhanced Seasons.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

HouseMapMarkers.esp

HouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp

WayshrineMapMarkers.esp

Enhanced Hotkeys.esp

Bonemold_Helmet.esp

RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp

Vvardenfell_Imports.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Loth's Blunt Weapons for NPCs.esp

FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OMOBS_SI.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp

TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp

FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp

FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp

FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp

FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp

FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp

FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp

FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

OOO-WaterFish.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

MorrowOblivion_World Transport.esp

MorrowOblivion_Eloth Soulgem Replacer.esp

MorrowOblivion_Visual Overhaul Landscape & Grass.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp

Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp

FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

ElsweyrAnequinaFemaleBody.esp

Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp

road+bridges.esp

West Roads.esp

FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Bag of Holding.esp

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

Natural Hunger v2_1 by QF.esp

Advanced Mark & Recall.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

_darker_dungeons.esp

Almalexia.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

1em_Vilja MMM FCOM Fix.esp

CompanionMaster.esp

Ramy Enfant.esp

Cobl Races.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

Cobl Races - Balanced.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities - Vvardenfell Imports.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

FCOM_Archery.esp

NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp

Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp

All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

TWMP_Tamriel_Ingame_ Map.esp

Morroblivion_Food_for_Real_Hunger_COBL.esp

[thrillseeker3242]

Update: Nehrim will start. I can't start a new game, but that's probably a completely unrelated problem. I still get instant crash with Oblivion no matter how I attempt to launch it.

[Telyn]

If you are using 292 I suggest that you consider updating Wrye Bash to version 293 or reverting to 291. I am guessing that you have a version of Bash which uses CBash rather than python. There are some known issues with CBash not handling things exactly the same way python did. 293 corrects some of these, and the SVN linked in the file description corrects more. However most people who are having problems find that using python to build their bashed patch resolves a lot of problems. Here are some options, if you wish to try that.

 

1. Option #1. Revert to version 291. My guess is that version was working for you before, so it will probably work for you again. Uninstall Bash and reinstall 291. Rebuild your bashed patch.

2. Option #2. If you prefer to have new features available in the recent versions (such as VORB support), update to 293 if youdo not already have it and rebuild your bashed patch with the rebuild option that does not say (CBash).

 

If you have 292 and wish to keep using that, I suggest that you rename cbash.dll in your Mopy folder to something else like disabledCBash.dll. This will cause 292 to default to python. Then rebuild your bashed patch. I would recommend you use one of the options above, though. 292 is the least stable.

 

Make sure that if you are going to 293, you install wrye python0 4a first. If you are reverting to 291, install wrye python 03a first.

[thrillseeker3242]

I have the exact same problem with 293. Reverting to 291 is the most effective solution, which is what I've done. But it's annoying because I have no idea why this is happening. I'm not sure if I've installed Wrye Python 4. I guess that would be a problem...but it seems unlikely to be the cause of my problem, because Wrye Bash 293 appears to launch and work normally...it's Oblivion that won't work after installing Wrye Bash 292 or 293.

[MRWalther]

Same problem here with 290 to 294. I used the full installer, and selected the default python version. Reverted to 291, but the game is still not working. Do I need to reinstall the game, or is there an other solution?

[Deleted2131296User]

think you have to reinstall. I have the same problem with every wrye bash version I downloaded. Just a clean reinstall could fix it. If anyone has a solution for me launching oblivion and having wrye bash installed... o_O

 

@Mr.Walther did you find a better solution than reinstall the game?

Edited September 15, 2011 by Guest