learn34 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Hi, I'm currently getting used to using FO3Edit, and thus far have been unable to find which ever conflict is causing my game to crash 3-6 seconds after start-up. Part of my difficulty comes from having around 200 mods, although a lot of them are just single weapon or armor mods. I'll put the list below (IDK how to set up expandable text boxes within posts, so I apologize in advance). When I apply a conflict detection filter or create a merged patch, I get an error saying that the player npc contains an unexpected or out of order subrecord KFFZ 5A46464B, but when I jump to the player formID the KFFZ subrecord is not visible. It is supposed to be between the CNAM and AIDT subrecords, but the only thing between them is "Packages" in grey text/green background with no sub directories. And when I load my merged patch along with all my other mods and then apply a conflict filter, the player formID isn't even listed, although the error still pops up. Is there any way to fix this other than switching off all my mods and going through them one by one until I find the one that's crashing the game? As an additional question, what's the difference between a conflict and a critical conflict? Mod list (in current load order)Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmDestruction.esmaHUD.esmiHUD.esmImpervious Power Armour.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmxCALIBR.esmXenoTec Corporations.esmTau Ammo.esmArefuExpandedByAzar.esmTheInstitute.esmVault 101 Revisited.esmCubeExperimental (EN).esmMothership Crew.esmTSC Air Support.esmNecronomiconExMortis 5.6.esmEVE.esmApocalypse Armory.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espDarNifiedUIF3.espCASM.espRH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.espRH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.espRH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.espRH_IronSights_Vanilla_NewWeapons.espFeng Shui.espFeng Shui - MyKeymap.espPCB.espGalaxyNewsRadio100[M].espArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.espGhostRadio.espRadioTenpenny.espCONELRAD 640-1240.espExistence2.0.espGreys_DramaRadio.espGhoulRadio.espLoki_HistoricSpeeches_v1.espPointRadio.espUPP - Pack 1.espUPP - Pack 2.espUPP - Original Perks.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP - Quest Perks.espUPP - Beverage Perks.espVDSP-01.espNotSoFast.espHeirApparent.espIntoTheDeepWoods.espPLweightadjust.espPLFewerItems.espGlow Sticks.espSniperZooming.espQuantumPipeV2.espDestruction - Main.espDestruction - Main - Statics.espDestruction - DLC.espDestruction - DLC - Statics.espbzArmour.espMTC Wasteland Travellers.espMTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp01AtM - Firefly Ranch.espUndergroundHideout.espDCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.espMegaton House and Theme Overhaul.espWater_Tower_Hideout_byOrophin.espGarageBaseV1.3Fenced.espstash3.espstash31.esppinionsuite.espBigtown upgraded.espDeath Canyon v3.espGhoul Mansion v3.1.espCanterburyCommonsEmbiggened.espApocalypse Armory.espApocalypse Armory - CALIBR.espApocalypse Armory - xCALIBR.espApocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.espApocalypse Armory - Optional Historical Names.espPyramidhead.espArnold.espMotorCycleRemake.espDK Caucasians.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).espRH_FWE_Bridge.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWMK-RH IronSights.espApocalypse Armory + WMK.espAlexScorpion's and Weijiesen's Smoking Fun.espCrossbow.espJSBlacksh2hMartialArts.espIon Cannon.espStrike Controller.espDevils Mistress Unique.espm79thumper.espTIS-1.espGrenadeLauncher_functional.espTeslaRifle.espPKPulsePistol.espCity-Killer-no-replace-english.espMiniguns Replacer.espDMC_Oblivion_Weapons.espautocannon.espArc Blade V1e.espTau Armor and Weapons And Vendor.espTau Armor and Weapons And Vendor - Zeta Addon.espBerettaTwoTone AHJr.espTheFingerOfGod.espSete di sangue.espepr-057.espTheProudAmerican.espStar Trek Weapons revamped.espBerettaTwoTone AH.espWMKAA12Shotgun.esp3EFdrg.espDogmeat Leather Armor - CRAFT.espPortableForceFieldGenerators.espStar Craft 2 Mod.espJSBlack'sNanoArmor.espMonster_Costumes.espNecrisArmor1.espPlerrME2Armour.espMantis07Reflex - Realism.espJessica Outfit.espK2Clothes_BrownLeather03.espMZ-Weak-EbonTek.espNaughtyRaiderArmor_EZStd.espNAPA.espTombRaider.espCALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.espEVE.espEVE Operation Anchorage.espEVE - FWE Master Release.espEVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).espEVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.espEVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.espUH-FWE-WMK-DLC.espApocalypse Armory + EVE.espRH_EVE_Bridge.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.espMart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.espMart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.espMart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.espLucyWestCompanion.espbittercup_comp.esp1PipboyPDA.espTSC Air Support.espVisionMod-Tom.espStripClub.espVault-Tec Experimental Dimensional Safe.espOwned!.espFellout-pipboylight.espEnhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.espEnhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.espEnhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.espEnhanced Weather - REBOOT.espFellout-Full.espFellout-Anchorage.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-PointLookout.espFellout-Zeta.espEwwGhoulyBody.espDestruction - CP - Fellout.espxCALIBRammo_FWE.esp Total active plugins: 203Total plugins: 203 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmount Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Start by shutting down EVE, had too many problems making it play nice, including errors that I couldn't look at to correct, would lock up FO3edit. Next, I've seen somewhere around here that WMKAA12Shotgun.esp also conflicts with some mods - can't remember which, but try shutting that one off for now. If I read to FO3Edit guide book correctly a critical conflict is one that can cause a CTD, a conflict isn't quite as bad - depends on text coloring orange, green, purple, black, good or managable. Red on red - definite CTD (hence critical conflict). I've been going 1 mod at a time trying to updated my bashed patch to take care of any conflicts as they come up. At times it seems like I fix one part of a mod within my patch only two undo it a couple of spaces down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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