Game crashes aftew X hours in game time

[nuclearsnow]

I'm having some rather maddening trouble with my game where the game will crash and say "oblivion has stopped working" after a certain amount of in-game time. I would say that it's quest related, but it's happened before after the dark brotherhood initiation quest. I had the misfortune of saving a few moments before one of these crashes an a completely different save file. I'd load my game and after a few moments, nearly on the dot, the game would crash. This is the same with my current game; After completing "more unfinished business" my game will crash at dusk/ night if I fast travel to Leyawin ato start "Azani Blackheart".

 

I've searched the internet countless hours to see if anyone else has had this problem to try and remedy this situation.

 

I'm running the Steam version of Oblivion GOTY Deluxe.

I have the most recent Unofficial patches as well as the most recent Unofficial Official Mods patch and Unofficial Patch Supplemental

My OS is Windows 7 Home Premium

 

My Active mods/ BOSS suggested load order is as follows Some aren't active, but are merged into my Bashed patch:

Oblivion.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Frans Leveled creatures-items.esm

Frans optional new items.esm

Frans optional new creatures.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLC Shivering Isles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles.esp

Natural Habitat by Max Tael.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural SI.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

Enhanced WaterV2.0 HD.esp

Natural Water by Max Tael.esp

Enhanced waterV2.0 SI.esp

All Natural- Real Lights.esp

Windows Lighting System.esp

Alive Waters.esp

Alive Waters Koi addon.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Personality Idles3b.esp

RAEVWD Cities.esp

RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp

Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

Dynamic Map.esp

DLC Horse Armor.esp

DLC Horse Armor unofficial patch.esp

DLC Orrery.esp

DLC Orrery Unoficial Patch

DLC Vilelair. esp

DLC Vilelair unofficial patch.esp

DLC Mehrunes Razor.esp

DLC Mehrunes Razor unofficial patch.esp

DLC Spell Tomes.esp

DLC Spelltomes Unoficial patch.esp

Book Jackets DLC.esp

EVE Stock Equipment Replacer.esp

Male Body ReplacerV4.esp

CM Better Wine.esp

CM Better Wine SI.exp

Rusty Items.esp

DLC Thieves Den.esp

DLC Thieves Den Unoficial Patch.esp

DLC Thieves Den Unofficial patch SSSB.esp

Frans Optional files.esp

Alluring Potion Bottles.esp

Fransfemale.esp

Better Bernius Manor- Helping Hands.esp

Better Bernius Manor.esp

Better Bernius Manor AN Paych Natural.esp

DLC BattlehornCastle.esp

DLC Battlehorncastle Unofficial Patch.esp

DLC Frostcrag.esp

DLC Frostcrag Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights Book jackets.esp

Knights unofficial patch.esp

EVE Knights of the Nine.esp

ALL of the Unique landscape Esp's

Natural Vegitation by Max Tael.esp

Harvest flora.esp

Harvest Flora SI.esp

Harvest Flora DLC Vile Lair.esp

Harvest Flora DLC Frostcrag.esp

EVE Shivering Isles Eastereggs.esp

Ring of Console.esp

Babehair EV.esp

Ahtata Dremora.esp

Beautiful PeopleV22 Male ReplacerV4.esp

EVE Khajitfix

Slofs Oblivion Better Beasts.esp

Better looking Redguards V2.esp

Better looking Woodelves Vanilla Black eyes.esp

Frans 7day respawn time- 1-16 dar length rescale.esp

GW71 Life Detect.esp

Light Spell Light Blue.esp

Shining Creatures.esp

Bashed patch 0 .esp

lustrargonianrequest.esp

 

Any/ all help would greatly be appreciated. I'll gladly give more information/ elaborate if it means oblivion will be playable again.

[MShoap13]

Are you speaking of amount of time in-game continuously or your total play time on a file?

 

If it's the latter, Oblivion has had issues with large save files since release. The more time you spend on a single character, the larger your save file becomes. I'm not sure if there's a fix for this. In theory, this should become an issue until well after 100 hours of play time.

 

If it's the former, Oblivion is buggy in general. Though, if your hardware is running hot it could have an effect. RivaTuner's fan profile capabilities can work wonders on graphics card heat.

 

As far as your load order goes, nothing particularly strikes me as a possible culprit but I'm pretty new to Oblivion modding myself.

[nuclearsnow]

Are you speaking of amount of time in-game continuously or your total play time on a file?

 

If it's the latter, Oblivion has had issues with large save files since release. The more time you spend on a single character, the larger your save file becomes. I'm not sure if there's a fix for this. In theory, this should become an issue until well after 100 hours of play time.

 

If it's the former, Oblivion is buggy in general. Though, if your hardware is running hot it could have an effect. RivaTuner's fan profile capabilities can work wonders on graphics card heat.

 

As far as your load order goes, nothing particularly strikes me as a possible culprit but I'm pretty new to Oblivion modding myself.

I doubt it's total play time. I know I've put a lot of time into this game but this is on a new save file, hardly three days old with maybe 24 hours or less put in so far. My machine is ice cold right now, I just tried rearranging my load order slightly and disabling a few mods and it still crashes at the same time on the dot. I have enough time to fasttravel from Chorrol to Leyawin West gate and run straight to the edge of the chapel and it stops working. If I do the same except stand completely still upon arriving at Leyawin it will crash after the same ammount of time it would take to run to the edge of the chapel. If I rest in Chorrol the same time it takes to arrive in Leyawin, the game will crash after a few moments. It's absolutely maddening.

 

Thanks for the tip though , I'' check out this RivaTuner. If I manage to work this out I'll post what I did to fix it so nobody EVER has to deal with this problem.

[MShoap13]

Are you speaking of amount of time in-game continuously or your total play time on a file?

 

If it's the latter, Oblivion has had issues with large save files since release. The more time you spend on a single character, the larger your save file becomes. I'm not sure if there's a fix for this. In theory, this shouldn't become an issue until well after 100 hours of play time.

 

If it's the former, Oblivion is buggy in general. Though, if your hardware is running hot it could have an effect. RivaTuner's fan profile capabilities can work wonders on graphics card heat.

 

As far as your load order goes, nothing particularly strikes me as a possible culprit but I'm pretty new to Oblivion modding myself.

I doubt it's total play time. I know I've put a lot of time into this game but this is on a new save file, hardly three days old with maybe 24 hours or less put in so far. My machine is ice cold right now, I just tried rearranging my load order slightly and disabling a few mods and it still crashes at the same time on the dot. I have enough time to fasttravel from Chorrol to Leyawin West gate and run straight to the edge of the chapel and it stops working. If I do the same except stand completely still upon arriving at Leyawin it will crash after the same ammount of time it would take to run to the edge of the chapel. If I rest in Chorrol the same time it takes to arrive in Leyawin, the game will crash after a few moments. It's absolutely maddening.

 

Thanks for the tip though , I'' check out this RivaTuner. If I manage to work this out I'll post what I did to fix it so nobody EVER has to deal with this problem.

 

Try turning off everything and resting. That should rule out any scripts running from your plugins. If it crashes, it's a change that either got C&P into your data files, a global setting you've changed or, a rare issue with Windows. Though, a Windows issue seems rather far-fetched.

 

If it doesn't crash, add your mods back in slowly. Start with the DLC, then the Unofficial Patches, then the most game altering mods, then everything else. It's best to do this one mod at a time, but doing it in groups of 2 or 3 plugins at a time then scaling back one at a time once you've recreated the crash probably won't hurt.

[nuclearsnow]

 

I doubt it's total play time. I know I've put a lot of time into this game but this is on a new save file, hardly three days old with maybe 24 hours or less put in so far. My machine is ice cold right now, I just tried rearranging my load order slightly and disabling a few mods and it still crashes at the same time on the dot. I have enough time to fasttravel from Chorrol to Leyawin West gate and run straight to the edge of the chapel and it stops working. If I do the same except stand completely still upon arriving at Leyawin it will crash after the same ammount of time it would take to run to the edge of the chapel. If I rest in Chorrol the same time it takes to arrive in Leyawin, the game will crash after a few moments. It's absolutely maddening.

 

Thanks for the tip though , I'' check out this RivaTuner. If I manage to work this out I'll post what I did to fix it so nobody EVER has to deal with this problem.

 

Try turning off everything and resting. That should rule out any scripts running from your plugins. If it crashes, it's a change that either got C&P into your data files, a global setting you've changed or, a rare issue with Windows. Though, a Windows issue seems rather far-fetched.

 

If it doesn't crash, add your mods back in slowly. Start with the DLC, then the Unofficial Patches, then the most game altering mods, then everything else. It's best to do this one mod at a time, but doing it in groups of 2 or 3 plugins at a time then scaling back one at a time once you've recreated the crash probably won't hurt.

 

 

Well I got to the point where all I have to check is my Bashed Patch and the rest of the Francesco options. So I check all of Francesco's esp's (figuring they're all related and will cause problems if ones not checked) and by game crashes on the load screen after the Bethsoft logo intro. So I check my bashed patch esp, thinking that might have something to do with it and it crashes after the bethsoft logo. After Unchecking all of Frans esp's, but keeping my bashed patch checked, my game crashes after the bethsoft logo. This is really puzzling me beyond belief. Should I try building my bashed patch and exclude Frans, because it seems to be the culprit?

[MShoap13]

I'd say give it a go, some of his mods are to alter time in-game, and the revive after 7 days mod seems particularly suspect. Also, I've had a CTD after bethsoft logo problem after a reinstall due to using the oblivion.ini from my previous install. I never noticed any problems in the first install with the modified Oblivion.ini.

[nuclearsnow]

Alright, Built my Bashed patch without any of Frans options and it no longer crashes after the Bethsoft Logo. I think it may be the seven day reset like you said. I'm going to load my save from before I started testing to confirm whether or not Getting rid of Frans really works. It's kind of saddening because I really loved all the new creatures and Items that Frans mod gave me.

[MShoap13]

Alright, Built my Bashed patch without any of Frans options and it no longer crashes after the Bethsoft Logo. I think it may be the seven day reset like you said. I'm going to load my save from before I started testing to confirm whether or not Getting rid of Frans really works. It's kind of saddening because I really loved all the new creatures and Items that Frans mod gave me.

 

You could try adding some of them back in. Chances are, it's only one plugin, and beyond that, it's probably only one script in that plugin causing the issue. Granted, testing this could be time consuming, but you most likely wouldn't lose the creatures and items you like. :biggrin:

 

Edit: If you do manage to narrow it down to a specific plugin and can find any scripts in said plugin that affect game time, you should try to C&P them on here (preferably behind a spoiler and code tag) and see if someone can spot the issue. :psyduck:

Edited July 19, 2011 by MShoap13

[nuclearsnow]

I'm at my wits end. I completed "More unfinished business", Started up "Azani Blackheart" and traveled to Leyawin; No crash. In order to make sure everything is good, I fast travel from Leyawin to Bruma and it crashes after a few moments. Thinking "Well it could have been one of Oblivions random crashes, I'll give it another shot." I load up the autosave, fast travel from Leyawin to the imperial city and it crashes after a few moments. Hoping to god it seriously isn't trying to pull this again, I load the autosave and wait nine hours and it crashes a few moments after. The downside is my problems not fixed but in light of the situation, I know it has nothing to do with Frans.

[nuclearsnow]

Really obscure, and honestly I don't think I understand, but I think I found the problem. After unchecking the Shiny creatures.esp and loading up my autosave, I waited nine hours and nothing. Feeling a huge sigh of relief, I fast travel to Bruma and nothing still. Kind of strange how a mod that causes Flame Atronachs, Frost Atronachs, and Will-o-whisps to glow can cause your game to crash at odd hours of the night. Anyway, just to play it safe, I'm going to reinstall Frans, complete the quest, and see how things go from there.