CTD when Scrapping / storing in Sanctuary, help required!

[kitcat81]

I ran into the issue only once. Did not used any mods listed in the thread at that point. I think it was just a random glitch ..Something was registered or unregistered improperly and it got baked into saves. Fixed it by going to some old save.

[Stavetskaya]

The same issue here failed to find the culprit. It starts suddenly and... well, all I can do is use markfordelete and disable for now. Will try the method with uninstalling and install back F4SE)

UPD Uninstalling F4SE and disabling all mods that were required it - with no luck. Problem is still here)

UPD2 I'm downloading earliest in-game save and the problem is gone. In my case, there was a corrupted save I guess...

Edited May 25, 2018 by Stavetskaya

[blackhand8657]

I've been getting random CTDs lately as well, just started a new game (with mods). I was scrapping Sanctuary then all of a sudden it crashes. When I open the Papyrus.0 log I see mostly this:

 

stack:
[ (FF001328)].mrkscriptpreexistingplacer.EnableNoWait() - "<native>" Line ?
[ (FF00119D)].mrkscriptpreexistingmanager.SetRefs() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\MRKScriptPreexistingManager.psc" Line 209
[ (FF00119D)].mrkscriptpreexistingmanager.HandleDestruction() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\MRKScriptPreexistingManager.psc" Line 270
[ (FF001328)].mrkscriptpreexistingplacer.OnWorkshopObjectDestroyed() - "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Scripts\Source\User\MRKScriptPreexistingPlacer.psc" Line 53

 

This is a fairly new problem as far as the log is concerned, never seen that particular script source before. I have no idea where this script source is or what mod it is associated with. I don't know if it's vanilla, cant find it in the Fallout 4 BA2 files and not sure if its associated any of my mods. I started a different new game previously before my current save and started having the same problem. I used the markfordelete command on a couple objects and when I saw the "MRKScriptPreexistingPlacer.psc", I thought maybe I messed something up which is why I started another fresh game and did not use the command. But alas, the problem persisted.

 

I don't know whats going with this game anymore, it's become a love/hate relationship. Honestly, I've about had it, I'm tired of the bugs, crashes, idiot settler AI, the constant updates with CC crap nobody asked for. Seems like Bethesda can churn out all this CC crap but can't be bothered to fix their own damn game. I hope they do better with the next Fallout game.

 

Anyway, if anyone has an idea what's causing the crashes, it'd be appreciated

 

My Current Load Order:

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
Snap'n Build.esm=1
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
Damage Threshold.esm=1
CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm=1
NAC.esm=1
Worsin's Garage.esm=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp=0
AWKCR - Nuka World.esp=1
AWKCR - Vault-Tec.esp=1
Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler SKE.esp=1
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects SKE.esp=1
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power SKE.esp=1
XHomemakerLightsNoShadow.esp=1
CleanSettlement Snap'n Build.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp=1
K9TacticalHarness.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
BetterGenerators.esp=1
D.E.C.A.Y.esp=1
Prewar Beauty.esp=1
Nana Presets 15.esp=0
MoreShipments_10.esp=0
Crafting Workbench.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Far Harbor DLC.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Nuka World DLC.esp=1
LegendaryRarity7.esp=1
LegendaryAllDifficulties3x.esp=1
LegendaryModification.esp=1
GunNut5.esp=1
Eli_ArmourCollection.esp=1
Eli_Accessories.esp=1
Eli_RuggedOutfits.esp=1
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
BetterSettlers.esp=1
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp=1
BetterSettlersLightArmorOnly.esp=1
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1
SettlersRename.esp=1
ImmersiveScrapping.esp=1
Move that Workbench!.esp=1
All Military Skin pack.esp=1
Scouter_V1.1_by_Ruddy88.esp=1
Scouter_AWKCR.esp=1
DiamondCitySWAT.esp=1
Lots More Facial Hair.esp=1
no_level_reqs.esp=0
Moref*#@inMeat.esp=1
MoreMeat - DLC Addon.esp=1
CleanSettlement.esp=1
CleanSettlement Beds.esp=1
Clean Wasteland Workshop.esp=1
PortableContainer.esp=1
PortableRecycler.esp=1
Expanded Railway Rifle Mods.esp=0
DesertDDCap.esp=1
CROSS_Jetpack.esp=1
MoreOrLessXP.esp=0
MoreOrLessXP-Crafting.esp=0
MoreOrLessXP-Kills.esp=0
MoreOrLessXP-Misc.esp=0
BetterShackBridges.esp=0
This is MY Bed (Extended).esp=1
BetterStores.esp=1
GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp=1
NoLocalLeader.esp=1
Cryolator.esp=1
P99.esp=1
OTs-02 Kiparis.esp=0
Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp=1
P220.esp=1
DOOMMerged.esp=1
SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp=1
SCAR-L.esp=1
RightHandedHuntingRifle.esp=1
9x39Project.esp=0
9x39ProjectAWKCR.esp=0
ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp=0
P90.esp=0
P90NPC.esp=0
AlienBlasterZetanOverhaul.esp=1
AlienAssaultRifle.esp=0
AlienAssaultRifle-NoLegendSpawn.esp=0
M16.esp=1
Makeshift-Anti Materiel Rifle.esp=0
Skibs-Miniguns.esp=1
Quad_RAWLauncher.esp=1
Gauss Full Less.esp=1
MiniGen power.esp=0
RangerSequoia.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp=1
RealisticConstructionRecipes-Turrets.esp=1
XMoreLegendaryApparel.esp=0
SmallerPowerConduitsMS3.esp=1
DogBed.esp=0
RealTroughs.esp=1
HaxRPG7.esp=1
HaxAUG.esp=0
AKM_AKMS.esp=1
RU556.esp=1
AK74M.esp=1
DP_CaravanShotgun.esp=1
OTs33Pernach.esp=1
G36Complex.esp=0
Minigun Gau-19B.esp=1
1CAS_serviceRifle.esp=1
GKX Broadsider Improved.esp=1
Famas.esp=1
M1014.esp=1
M1014- AWKCR Compatibility.esp=0
AQUILA.esp=0
CROSS_RugerMkV.esp=0
M1Garand.esp=0
M1Garand - AWKCR.esp=0
M1Garand-1.5xDMG.esp=0
MoritasBattleRifle.esp=0
Morita_Battle_Rifle_Animations.esp=0
Quad_Accelerator.esp=1
GaussRifleMk2.esp=0
GaussRifleMk2 - AWKCR.esp=0
HuntingShotgun.esp=1
BF1 Animations - Double Barrel Shotgun v2.3.esp=1
CrudeBlowback.esp=1
CrudeBlowback - AWKCR.esp=0
McMillanCS5.esp=1
CombatRiflePlus.esp=1
Superior Energy-Weapons.esp=1
Laser Musket Mods.esp=1
LMOSLP.esp=1
WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp=0
LightsaberMod.esp=0
GatlingRifle.esp=0
GatlingRifle-NoIdiotSavant.esp=0
syringerexpanded.esp=0
Friffy_Fixed Rugs.esp=1
CHKFlora.esp=1
cartman1975_warehouse.esp=1
ImpactBaseballGrenades.esp=1
IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp=1
Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp=1
Fortune Finder Redone.esp=1
Hoodless Scribe Hat.esp=0
Recruitable NPC Dialogue Fixes.esp=1
XCraftingRecipes.esp=1
XWildConversions.esp=1
XFlamerNozzles.esp=1
N7-Armor-Standalone_by_Ruddy88.esp=0
Spiffy's Assorted Beanies.esp=0
Faction Field Outfits.esp=1
Balaclava.esp=1
Ballistic Marine Wetsuit v1.2.1.esp=1
TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp=0
TNR Shoulder Lamp - Alternate Slot.esp=0
NomexGloves.esp=1
combat_PA.esp=0
combat_PA - AWKCR.esp=0
Combat_PA_BattleArmor_by_Ruddy88.esp=0
Targeting HUD Enhanced.esp=1
XBetterChameleonLegEffect.esp=0
Weapon Rack Extended.esp=1
DBZ Pictures.esp=1
NO NPC GREETINGS.esp=1
ManufacturingExtended.esp=1
Converging_Conveyors.esp=1
CompactCrafting.esp=1
CapStorage.esp=1
Siles - ModernMagazineShelf - transparent.esp=1
ZerasPaintings.esp=0
DD_AIO Test Mark 1.esp=0
Northland Diggers New.esp=1
Invisible_Guard_Marker-SKE.esp=1
AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real.esp=0
AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real-SKPatch.esp=0
PackBrahminsToEyebots_ALL.esp=1
AES_Renovated Furniture.esp=1
aes_rendeco.esp=1
Fusebox Generator - Less Power, More Resources.esp=1
workShopDashButton.esp=1
SafeTrunkContentsReworked.esp=1
LunchboxDrops.esp=1
UncappedSettlementSurplus.esp=1
VendorCaps_10k.esp=1
SettlementGarageSale.esp=1
DOOMSettlementStuff.esp=1
FissionBattery.esp=0
xtns-SA_ChainlinkGateFixed.esp=1
MYLadyKillerBed.esp=0
ExoticWorkshopCreatures.esp=1
MGSOutfit.esp=1
Rage_XOF_armor_pack.esp=1
MGSV_EVAJumpsuit.esp=1
MGSV_TheBoss.esp=1
mgs4_meryl.esp=0
tcu2.esp=0
FOC_NCR_Armors.esp=1
FOC_NCR_Armors_AWCKR.esp=1
Rangergearnew.esp=1
DPAssaultCarbine.esp=1
CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp=1
CombatVests.esp=1
MillersBeret_noAEC.esp=0
Yet Another Piper.2F1E.esp=1
Yet Another Curie.esp=1
Scarlet_to_Cait.esp=1
Eli_Display Shelves.esp=1
WeaponDisplays.esp=0
Rebuilt_CroupManor.esp=0
Rebuilt_SpectacleIsland.esp=0
Rebuilt_TaffingtonBoathouse.esp=0
Rebuilt_HomePlate.esp=1
Rebuilt_JamaicaPlain.esp=1
Rebuilt_SunshineTidings.esp=1
Taxidermy_Expanded.esp=1
XNoGaussRifleExplo.esp=1
ImprovedNuke.esp=1
Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1
Not Your Average Neon.esp=1
JCWBuilder.esp=1
XDelivererVault111.esp=0
ZebrinasWorkshopDevices.esp=1
ImmersiveLoversEmbrace.esp=1
Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp=1
Cute Rylee.esp=1
DeadlierDeathclaws.esp=0
MirelurkQueenVariants2.esp=0
NoRadscorpionTunneling.esp=1
Kasumi vanilla.esp=1
Cute Magnolia Vanilla.esp=1
More Realistic Cats.esp=1
BasementLiving.esp=1
Bunker1A.esp=0
SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1
ProvisionerSupplyContainers.esp=1
Locksmith.esp=0
VaultTecEngineering.esp=0
Provisioner Tracker.esp=1
Sanctuary Cleaner Roads.esp=1
Reload Sounds.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC03-DLC04-VIS.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-NoDLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp=1
SnapBeds.esp=1
SWG.esp=1
SWG_SKE.esp=1
GoldBars.esp=0
NukaFridge_Test1.esp=0
VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp=0
NoCameraFilters.esp=1
XSoundandMusicMod.esp=1
Tougher Vertibirds.esp=1
SpotlightFix-300-Shadow.esp=1
XVariousRobotMods.esp=0
Wasteland Workshop Streetlights.esp=1
exotic_lights.esp=1
Better High Tech Lights.esp=1
Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul.esp=1
AdvSettleTurretSet.esp=0
personelforcefields.esp=1
IMP.esp=1
DJ-CannedGoods.esp=0
XBetterRobotLoot.esp=1
No Combat Music.esp=1
XPerks.esp=0
Relight.esp=0
BetterWSG5.esp=0
SOEPack_VanillaMenuFixer.esp=0
Scavenging station get more item x5.esp=1
NukaColaMachine.esp=1
EnclaveX02.esp=1
Hellfirenew.esp=1
AerysNPCs.esp=1
brotherhood of steel overhaul.esp=1
PA-Quick Animations.esp=1
WIPAG - Paint Garage - Style 3 (Easy).esp=1
WIPAG - Paint Garage - Style 4 (Easy).esp=1
WIPAG - Decal Station.esp=1
WIPAG - Materials Overhaul.esp=1
WIPAG - Mod Overhaul.esp=1
WIPAG - ArmorKeywords Compatibility Patch.esp=1
Crazy Safari.esp=0
One Minutemen Radiant Quest At A Time.esp=1
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp=1
ArtilleryDbl.esp=0
ArtilleryFlare.esp=0
Skip DIMA memories.esp=1
SurvivalOptions.esp=0
Grasslands - Healthy.esp=1
Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp=1
Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp=1
Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp=1
Clean Water - Tropical.esp=1
TransferSettlements.esp=1
NAC-FarHarbor.esp=1
NAC-NukaWorld.esp=1
NAI.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
The Castle.esp=1
Flat And Tidy Specticle Island.esp=1
Ground_Vanilla.esp=1

[Pandorasheaart]

I'm having the same problem as well.

I have Disabled

- any interior cell modifiers

- Homaker, Sims Settlements, Anything that has to do with the workshop.

 

I'm level 70 just by Settlement Building. I have over 500 HOURS on this playthrough. I am livid that I can't figure this out. It breaks my heart.

I'm going to try to backtrack to see if I have a save that it doesn't affect.

I noticed this directly after completing the 'Old Guns' Quest if that helps.
I did use scrapall in sanctuary also.

I will Edit if I find a fix for me.

Sage <3

 

[TenThirty2]

Same issue AND found a fix so thought I'd post here if it can help anyone else.

 

I found my way here after encountering the same bug. Over 1300 hours in, many mods and a LOT of building. Most of those 1300 hours on one original character. So saying I had a lot invested in the character was an understatement.

Recently I started a second character and messed around installing and removing a few newer mods with no issues, no CTDs.

But when I went back to my original char save in Sanctuary that's when the problems started, I could no longer store\scrap ANYTHING I built previously or new. Trying got a CTD.

 

After trying suggestions in this thread and a few other things with no luck I loaded a save where I knew I got the CTDs and took a screenshot of the Mod Load error message. This is the one the game puts up when you try to load a save that was using mods that you uninstalled. In the past I've clicked 'OK' many times after uninstalling mods, never had issues, until now.

 

So using that screenshot I started going down the list, there were about 10 but I focused first on mods that I knew altered the build mode in some way.

I got lucky after the first couple tries with Sim Settlements being the one that was causing issues.

I'd uninstalled it a few days ago to clean up mod clutter, apparently it didn't uninstall cleanly and was causing the CTDs.

After I reinstalled the SAME version of that mod my save was looking for, no more CTDs.

 

Hope this maybe helps someone else.

[ns006m]

I've just started getting this at The Castle. CTD every time i tried to scrap.

 

However using the disable function in the console window works fine.

 

Edit: However placing objects also results in CTDs.

Edited August 29, 2018 by ns006m

[dhitchner]

Is there still no fix for this? It started for me in Sanctuary Hills, but only on the north side of the town. Now I'm getting CTD in Starlight Drive if I try to scrap brahmin feed troughs. Scrapping the fences right next to them works fine.

I was having this problem before I installed Scrap Everything. I was hoping that the mod might fix it, but it hasn't.

I've searched for this problem on the Sim Settlements page and they say that it is a problem with the game itself and not a mod.
If it is a corrupted save, is there any way to uncorrupt a save?

Load order:

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 HUDFramework.esm
9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm
10 a SimSettlements.esm
11 b XDI.esm
254 FE 0 RecruitableSettlersLeaders.esl
12 c PRC Patch for Enbs.esp
13 d Immersive HUD.esp
14 e Brawl Bug Fix.esp
15 f ConfigurablePowerArmor.esp
16 10 Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
17 11 DarkerNights.esp
18 12 DarkerNightsDetection.esp
19 13 RononStuffs Perks Unleashed DLC Patched.esp
20 14 GeneratorOverhaul.esp
21 15 Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp
22 16 ImmersiveVendors.esp
23 17 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp
24 18 dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp
25 19 dD-Reduced Explosion Force.esp
26 1a CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
27 1b CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
28 1c CROSS_ReducedLaserSmoke.esp
29 1d dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
30 1e CROSS_Jetpack.esp
31 1f WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
32 20 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
33 21 Give Me That Bottle.esp
34 22 Better Cooking Stations.esp
35 23 Better Cooking Stations - Far Harbor + Nuka World patch.esp
36 24 Armorsmith Extended.esp
37 25 Unique NPCs.esp
38 26 The Collector's Guides AIO.esp
39 27 Institute Patch for PRC.esp
40 28 CBBE.esp
41 29 ImmersiveDrumlinDiner.esp
42 2a RecruitableSettlers.esp
43 2b rep_immersivecanteen.esp
44 2c UniqueUniques.esp
45 2d CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp
46 2e CartographersMapMarkers Commonwealth.esp
47 2f CartographersMapMarkers FarHarbor.esp
48 30 CartographersMapMarkers NukaWorld.esp
49 31 DV-No Levelled Vertibirds.esp
50 32 DV-Very Durable Vertibirds.esp
51 33 ProtectedNamedSettlers.esp
52 34 llamaCompanionHeather.esp
53 35 HandmadeRevolver.esp
54 36 RRTV_CommonwealthRoadMap-RedRocket.esp
55 37 SalvageBeacons.esp
56 38 HandmadeRevolver - AWKCR-VIS.esp
57 39 HandmadeRevolver-1.5xDMG.esp
58 3a WVSimSAddon.esp
59 3b Altairp's Animal Farm.esp
60 3c LongerPowerLines3x.esp
61 3d TimerPowerSwitch.esp
62 3e PA-Quick Animations.esp
63 3f PipeShotgun.esp
64 40 PipeShotgun-AWKCR.esp
65 41 UncappedSettlementSurplus.esp
66 42 3dscopes-framework.esp
67 43 3dscopes.esp
68 44 3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp
69 45 RadiantBirdsv05.esp
70 46 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
71 47 ReducedEnergyRecoil.esp
72 48 CompanionAccuracy.esp
73 49 SurvivalOptions.esp
74 4a Home Plate Workbench Linked - Mechanists Lair Workbench.esp
75 4b FO4Hotkeys.esp
76 4c Loot Detector.esp
77 4d Move (Get Out the Way).esp
78 4e QuickTrade.esp
79 4f PD_LowerWeapon.esp
80 50 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
81 51 AKM_AKMS.esp
82 52 AKM_AKMS_NWPatch.esp
83 53 MineFrisbee.esp
84 54 Better Weapon Scrap.esp
85 55 EasyLockpicking.esp
86 56 Be Exceptional - Uninstall.esp
87 57 Be Exceptional.esp
88 58 Perks Unleashed.esp
89 59 CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.esp
90 5a SurvivalOptions_GiveMeThatBottle_EveryonesBestFriend_Patch.esp
91 5b AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp
92 5c PrestonNoRadiant.esp
93 5d K9TacticalHarness.esp
94 5e llamaCompanionHeather-VIS - AE Patch.esp
95 5f Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
96 60 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
97 61 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
98 62 StartMeUp.esp
99 63 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

[hassanhvsen]

My game never ctd as long as I can remember but recently same issue started to happen and im not sure what mod causes it. My game randomly CTD when only scrapping. Did anyone find any mod that is related to this issue?

[chypres89]

Same issue here... god this game engine is a mess... bethesda reusing the same shitty engine 4 ever...

[UrAnus17]

There is a nexus mod for this bug!, Kinggath and his friends have fixed it!

 

https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/scrap-crash-reason-fix-and-preventative-measures.7696/