Men's Medieval clothing

[Utyran]

@Telyn & AurianaValoria1

Trie to help is nice but, its more about cloaths.

 

 

@alonsomartinez

you offered your help on this medieval clothing request

http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/410941-mens-medieval-clothing/page__view__findpost__p__3401187

 

Do you think you could make a some changes on a mesh which already exists , that way i described?

 

Pics

http://www.picfront.org/d/8icP

http://www.picfront.org/d/8icQ

http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/l9oe0fbt/gambibambi.jpg

http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/ix8dg32e/secoundstep.jpg

 

The folder path for the last ones are cloths\lowerclass\02\ male shirt

The robes from the first pics are included in some mod, i forgot which it was, but if you interested an you help me, i send them to you.

 

In the end, the mesh should look like that (I will do the cloath textures of course.)

http://www.a2armory.com/images/medievalcostumes/men/lionheartgambeson.jpg

 

I would send you an private message, but the messenger said that does not work.

 

 

If someone could tell him, that would be nice. Its just that i will finialy get something done.

Edited July 28, 2011 by Utyran

[Daerchador]

@Utyran - maybe it escaped your notice, but the item which was pictured as a Gambeson was displayed worn OVER chain mail - http://www.a2armory.com/images/medievalcostumes/men/lionheartgambeson.jpg - and all of the discussion has been very relevant to how to achieve THAT effect in game. A Gambeson should be capable of being worn on its own, or over armour, as a padded under-tunic is an aketon (which, as it is worn underneath IS completely concealed by other clothing).

 

As for the discussion, the original poster asked for a MOD, not just an item as a resource. That means a big part of the thread is VERY likely to be about how to make the clothing work/look correct in game, and in the case of an item such as a Gambeson, that has to include how to portray it as being worn over (or under) armour, or potentially on its own. Armour is, and always has been, a layered item - from an undertunic, then padding, then the armour itself, and then any Gambeson / surcoat / tabard over the armour for identification. The same technique used to achieve this visual effect should also then be applicable to basic clothing such as a jacket worn over a shirt, IF it can be made to work. Also any stat changes from the additional layers should be factored into your defence, even if the item concerned is completely concealed.

 

 

ahem, I'd say Utyran is right, A gambeson is a thick woolen tunic designed to be worn under the armor to soften any blow, you have wrongly named an item form the first place...

 

what you mean is a tunic showing a coat of arms... those were generally worn over the armor, before medieval men found out that it was possible to put color on their shields....

 

after that these coat of arms tunics were mostly worn by normal (peasantry) foot-folk or archers...

[Frisicus]

Here are some examples of medieval armors whom I textured for a mod of another game:

 

From right to left:

 

The most right is a shortsleeved aketon that was worn over the common day clothes. It was a popular piece of armor for peasantry, citizens and low class guard. The aketon was made of several layers of cloth sewn on top of each other. It was warm but proved reasonable protection against piercing attacks (sword thrusts and arrows). Concerning cutting attacks and blunt attacks it took some stress away from the impact of a slash.

 

The single most right is a completer version of the aketon, this was usually called a padded gambeson (although aketon is still appropriate). It is again made of quilted patches of cloth, leather, hair, etc..Because it is longsleeved it provided more armor. Sometimes it was studded with a tunic of boiled leather riveted on it, providing additional armor against cutting attacks.

 

The one in the middle is a version of a full mail armor that was worn over a padded gambeson. Never mail was worn over naked skin! Mail provides excellent protection against cutting attacks: It is impossible with a normal sword or katana to cut through a proper mail. Though the trauma caused by the impact would still cause broken bones and arrows can easily penetrate through the rings. So gambesons were a necessity to be worn beneath mail. Only the trust of a lance, blow of an axe or a full thrust with a hard tipped sword could damage a man inside his mail.

 

Single from the left is mail armor with plain surcoat (late 12th century - early 14th century). In the late 12th century men started to wear a garment over the mail. This garment wass called a surcoat or robe. The word surcoat stems from French sur cotta and is the most common term for it. However even until the 1250 there were still knights and squires wearing plain mail armor without a surcoat.

 

The most lef image shows the armor of the Count of Holland from around 1254 AD. During the 13th century the surcoat got often decorated with the heraldry of the wearer (if he was noble enough to carry a heraldic weapon) or otherwise the patron. Heraldry was under strict regulations concerning it color usage (only metal colors on tincture colors or the other way, never tincture on tincture or metal on metal). Though it can't be seen from here but over the mail (that is worn over the gambeson) and beneath the surcoat a bodyjacket of steel plates was worn, providing additional protection against lance thrusts, spiked maces, piked axes and hard tiped swords.

 

(no picture) From the late 13th a early 14th century more parts of the body received plated armors (starting with pauldrons and greaves) and during the first half of the 100yrs War most of the body got covered in plate. The long surcoat was shortened to a sort of tabard while mail was only worn at the parts not completely covered in plate (the joints), to save on weight.

[lisajgale07]

I am also for medival clothing store, but i dint found yet, Many people suggest me that < spam link removed > designer ll help me it's a good option but i dont like that,

 

Banned - Spam post. As this is a first post, it's kind of obvious - trying to sneak in a spam link in a comment. The link led to a modern on line mens clothing store site.

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