ninja_lord666 Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Which direction are you reading the graph?The date is "Thousands of Years Ago" meaning that the the further right you go, the earlier the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 You didn't answer my question, though. Were you noticing the reverse correlation because you were reading the graph left-to-right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elpiggo Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 If it helps, have a flipped version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00biepl0x Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Earth's climate naturally changes. If Earth stopped changing, everything would die. IF Global Warming is real, it's only because of what happened in the past. There was an ice age around 10,000 BC. Now while that may seem like a long time ago to our short lives, as far as Earth is concerned, 12,000 years is a very short time. IF Global Warming exists, it's because Earth is still recovering from that. There was also the Little Ice Age from about the 16th to the mid-19th centuries meaning, that it ended about 50-60 years ago.Also, everyone thinks of Earth as being this weak, fragile thing, but Earth has survived far worse than a simple Global Warming or even the entire human race. Earth and life in general has survived 5 mass extinctions. I think that IF Global Warming is real, we have nothing to worry about. the release of co2 IS making a difference, but it isn't noticeable enough to say it really affects us.However, it IS making the north pole melt a bit more and this might make a little difference in sea level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramul Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 <Nested quote removed>the release of co2 IS making a difference, but it isn't noticeable enough to say it really affects us.However, it IS making the north pole melt a bit more and this might make a little difference in sea level.Please demonstrate how changing a floating object's density alters the surface level of the liquid it is floating in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 the release of co2 IS making a difference, but it isn't noticeable enough to say it really affects us.However, it IS making the north pole melt a bit more and this might make a little difference in sea level.[sarcasm]Oh no! The sea level will rise an inch or two! We're doomed!!![/sarcasm]The CO2 levels are making little, if any, difference. So what if a little more ice melts. We're not going to die. Also, you seem to be forgetting the first part of that very post you quoted:Earth's climate naturally changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00biepl0x Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 QUOTE(n00biepl0x @ Sep 28 2007, 04:17 PM) *<Nested quote removed>the release of co2 IS making a difference, but it isn't noticeable enough to say it really affects us.However, it IS making the north pole melt a bit more and this might make a little difference in sea level. Please demonstrate how changing a floating object's density alters the surface level of the liquid it is floating in. I will demonstrate: If temperature rises liquid expands (not only liquid) this makes the sea level rise. QUOTE(n00biepl0x @ Sep 28 2007, 11:17 AM) *the release of co2 IS making a difference, but it isn't noticeable enough to say it really affects us.However, it IS making the north pole melt a bit more and this might make a little difference in sea level. [sarcasm]Oh no! The sea level will rise an inch or two! We're doomed!!![/sarcasm]The CO2 levels are making little, if any, difference. So what if a little more ice melts. We're not going to die. Also, you seem to be forgetting the first part of that very post you quoted:QUOTEEarth's climate naturally changes. I didn't forget, and I know earth's climate is naturally changing, that's why I don't believe co2 release is actually making a noticeable difference. But it IS measurable. And if earth's temperature rises 3 degrees centigrade sea level will not rise 2 inches but about 7 yards if i read right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramul Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 QUOTE(n00biepl0x @ Sep 28 2007, 04:17 PM) *<Nested quote removed>the release of co2 IS making a difference, but it isn't noticeable enough to say it really affects us.However, it IS making the north pole melt a bit more and this might make a little difference in sea level. Please demonstrate how changing a floating object's density alters the surface level of the liquid it is floating in. I will demonstrate: If temperature rises liquid expands (not only liquid) this makes the sea level rise.You're evading the question. You stated that "...it IS making the north pole melt a bit more and this might make a little difference in sea level." You did NOT say or imply that the increase was due to a change in the density of the ocean. P.S. Please try not to break quotes. It hinders readability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja_lord666 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I will demonstrate: If temperature rises liquid expands (not only liquid) this makes the sea level rise.You know, I've boiled a lot of water, and I've never seen it expand as the temperature rises. There's some first hand empirical evidence. Temperature doesn't change density*, now pressure on the other hand, that'll change the density.One more thing, that's not demonstrating, that's just saying a fact, a fact which happens to be lying. Demonstrating would be like taking a video of water expanding as temperature rises, putting on the internet, and posting a link to it. However, since temperature doesn't change density, that first step is impossible.If you think I'm lying and still believe water expands wen heated, go ask your science teacher. In fact, go ask every science teacher in your school. They'll all laugh at your stupidity...well maybe not since they're teachers, but you can be sure they'll be laughing in their head. They may even laugh about it later when talking to the other teachers. Face it, what you said was completely ignorant. *That's of course ignoring the temperature levels that change an object's physical state (solid, liquid, gas). And if earth's temperature rises 3 degrees centigrade sea level will not rise 2 inches but about 7 yards if i read rightAnd where did you read that? Water covers about 75% of Earth's surface area.Earth's surface area: 510,065,600 km²Area*.75> 382,549,200 km²1 mile = 1.609344 km> 237,705,052 mi²1 mile = 1760 yds> 148,360,891,520 yds²Area*7yds> 2,928,526,240,640 yds³1 yard = 36 inches> 105,426,944,663,040 in³1 in³ = 2.54³ cm³> 1,727,638,089,517,695 cm³1 cm³ = 1 mL> 1,727,638,089,517,695 mL1 kL = 1,000,000 mL> 1,727,638,090 kL In short, it would take 1,727,638,090 kL of water for the ocean's water level to rise seven yards. I seriously doubt the temperature rising three degrees could produce that much water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00biepl0x Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 ok, now thing expanding as temperature rises IS a law of nature. and it would take about 10.000 years of co2 release to rise earth's temerature 10 degrees centigrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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