Random CTDs

[Dath9]

I decided to start up New Vegas again, so I reinstalled the game, installed the patch and downloaded the latest versions of the mods I use. But the problem is that it crashes randomly on me, usually while travelling outdoors or transitioning areas. Downloaded and installed the latest videocard drivers, and my spec is far above what the game needs. If anyone can help me with this I'd be really grateful, I really feel like playing New Vegas but the crashing is making it hard.

 

i5 intel quad processor 3.3 ghz

8gb RAM

GTX 570

Windows 7

 

Here's my load order, I used BOSS for it.

 

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

IWS-Core.esm

Caliber.esm

More Perks.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

MikotoBeauty.esm

Reload.esp

Rearm.esp

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

CASM.esp

LessIntrusiveKillCam.esp

Cass_Redux_Mikoto.esp

GrizzledBoone.esp

Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp

NCR Outpost.esp

Wasteland Defense.esp

StripMarkers21603.esp

PerkEveryLevel.esp

ReSort.esp

XFO - 9a - Enemies - AI revamp.esp

Arwen_NV_Realism_Core.esp

Improved Sound FX.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Improved Sound FX - Gunshot Distance Tweak.esp

Improved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp

LFox Improved Regen Implant.esp

More Perks Update.esp

Clanf_NoWeaponsRemove.esp

gambling.esp

IWS-Core-Patrols.esp

IWS-Core-Guards.esp

IWS-Core-Civilians.esp

MojaveEnclavePatrols_v1.0.esp

MoreShells.esp

Respawning Containers.esp

HighRoller.esp

HDTshop.esp

Desert Armor.esp

NCR Rearmament v1.5.esp

Neckchains.esp

NVLadyoutfit1.esp

LogicalReputationShifts.esp

VeronicaFixEssential.esp

VeronicaScribeRobe.esp

noautoaim.esp

PipBoyLight.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

Durability.esp

Modified Combat Values v2.esp

No Scope Wobble.esp

Realistic Death & Dismemberment Physics.esp

Vats Longer distance.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

URWLNV.esp

ELECTRO-CITY - Darker Nights.esp

Clean Up New Vegas.esp

MikotoBeauty.esp

GunRunnersExpandedV4.1.esp

Prove Your Worth (Repeatable).esp

Final Stand - Prove your Worth 2.esp

ranger_armor_no_faction.esp

IncreasedLegionPresence.esp

Zombie Serenade.esp

Immortal Companion Code.esp

Perks Have No Skill Requirements.esp

Karma-Less Petty Crime NV.esp

VATS Tweaked.esp

RWD-NVb2-Body Part Damage.esp

MoreFollowers.esp

Levelcap 100.esp

Presets.esp

Respawn100Hours.esp

More Fiends.esp

Rich Traders - 4x.esp

Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp

DustydistanceNV.esp

NoMainStoryUltimatums.esp

Timescale.esp

RangerVeteranBeforeEndgame.esp

More Ammo 5x.esp

AG Weapon Reload Speed.esp

BooneNoLongerNCR.esp

Boone_spotter.esp

BooneSoundfix.esp

Increasedspeed.esp

hardercore_combat.esp

Realistic Weapon Damage.esp

CombatArmor_MarkII.esp

10mmPistol-USPMatch_Replacement_v1.0.esp

NV Ghouls Revenge - Increased Numbers.esp

NV Ghouls Revenge - Resurrection.esp

 

Total active plugins: 100

Total plugins: 101

[Mrspeakers]

Well you have over 100 plugins....thats a hell of a lot....But you can try putting things that match under each other follow this one i give you:

 

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

IWS-Core.esm

Caliber.esm

More Perks.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

MikotoBeauty.esm

Reload.esp

Rearm.esp

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

NV Ghouls Revenge - Increased Numbers.esp

NV Ghouls Revenge - Resurrection.esp

Improved Sound FX - Gunshot Distance Tweak.esp

Improved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp

IWS-Core-Patrols.esp

IWS-Core-Guards.esp

IWS-Core-Civilians.esp

VeronicaFixEssential.esp

VeronicaScribeRobe.esp

BooneNoLongerNCR.esp

Boone_spotter.esp

BooneSoundfix.esp

ELECTRO-CITY - Darker Nights.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

CASM.esp

URWLNV.esp

LessIntrusiveKillCam.esp

Cass_Redux_Mikoto.esp

GrizzledBoone.esp

Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp

NCR Outpost.esp

Wasteland Defense.esp

StripMarkers21603.esp

PerkEveryLevel.esp

ReSort.esp

XFO - 9a - Enemies - AI revamp.esp

Arwen_NV_Realism_Core.esp

Improved Sound FX.esp

LFox Improved Regen Implant.esp

More Perks Update.esp

Clanf_NoWeaponsRemove.esp

gambling.esp

MojaveEnclavePatrols_v1.0.esp

MoreShells.esp

Respawning Containers.esp

HighRoller.esp

HDTshop.esp

Desert Armor.esp

NCR Rearmament v1.5.esp

Neckchains.esp

NVLadyoutfit1.esp

LogicalReputationShifts.esp

noautoaim.esp

PipBoyLight.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

Durability.esp

Modified Combat Values v2.esp

No Scope Wobble.esp

Realistic Death & Dismemberment Physics.esp

Vats Longer distance.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

Clean Up New Vegas.esp

MikotoBeauty.esp

GunRunnersExpandedV4.1.esp

Prove Your Worth (Repeatable).esp

Final Stand - Prove your Worth 2.esp

ranger_armor_no_faction.esp

IncreasedLegionPresence.esp

Zombie Serenade.esp

Immortal Companion Code.esp

Perks Have No Skill Requirements.esp

Karma-Less Petty Crime NV.esp

VATS Tweaked.esp

RWD-NVb2-Body Part Damage.esp

MoreFollowers.esp

Levelcap 100.esp

Presets.esp

Respawn100Hours.esp

More Fiends.esp

Rich Traders - 4x.esp

Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp

DustydistanceNV.esp

NoMainStoryUltimatums.esp

Timescale.esp

RangerVeteranBeforeEndgame.esp

More Ammo 5x.esp

AG Weapon Reload Speed.esp

Increasedspeed.esp

hardercore_combat.esp

Realistic Weapon Damage.esp

CombatArmor_MarkII.esp

10mmPistol-USPMatch_Replacement_v1.0.esp

Edited July 28, 2011 by Mrspeakers

[Dath9]

I know it seems like an awful lot of plugins, but most could be rolled into one "tweak mod", because they affect just one small thing. For example, I have a separate plugin for movement speed, but that could easily have been rolled into something else. Btw, does it matter if it's in different ESPs? Would it crash less if I started integrating it into bigger files?

 

One more thing, I have many mods that conflict, in regards to many mods editing the same weapons and such. My assumption is that the one loaded last overrides everything else without a problem, or could it cause increased instability by having multiple ESPs modifying one thing?

 

EDIT: Did my load order the way you advised as well, everything helps.

Edited July 28, 2011 by Dath9

[Mrspeakers]

I know it seems like an awful lot of plugins, but most could be rolled into one "tweak mod", because they affect just one small thing. For example, I have a separate plugin for movement speed, but that could easily have been rolled into something else. Btw, does it matter if it's in different ESPs? Would it crash less if I started integrating it into bigger files?

 

One more thing, I have many mods that conflict, in regards to many mods editing the same weapons and such. My assumption is that the one loaded last overrides everything else without a problem, or could it cause increased instability by having multiple ESPs modifying one thing?

 

EDIT: Did my load order the way you advised as well, everything helps.

 

Well if you put .esp's that relate like iv done for you it can help a little. As for having mods that do the same thing it probably most likely could like say for example my Toki Sudoku mod. Since hes a redesign of raul and you had a different redesign of raul from another author and activate both than im sure something isent going to go right. Could cause bugs and crashes

Edited July 28, 2011 by Mrspeakers

[Dath9]

Anyone else have any idea what could help me fix these crashes? I just crashed 4 times in less than an hour of playing, it's taking the fun out of the game. :(

[MyGoodEye]

Hate to say it, but you very likely just have to get rid of at least 25 of those... it's not that a mod may do small things, but that you've got so many mods. Rumor has it that the 'new max' is about 75.

 

One of the 'new' big problems is 'small mods', I guess.

 

I'd suggest doing away with as many 'small mods' as you can in order to get your mod-list as low as you can...

 

For instance... and I'll do this with "my" mods so as to not be accused of playing favorites, but get rid of ELECTRO-CITY : DARKER NIGHTS and get rid of UWRL. Instead, use NEVADA SKIES - URWLIFIED which contains a NIGHT DARKENER. Also, kill DUSTY DISTANCE (won't work with NSKIES).

 

You probably are running up against some other conflicts as I see a mishmash of mods that all seem to do similar things... for instance, ARWEN's + XFO + MODIFIED COMBAT VALUES all deal with the same stuff. Pick one.

 

And I'm sure if you dig around you'll find mods that your don't REALLY need. I can't make these decisions for you, 'cause everyone likes to play a different way, but do you REALLY need VERONICA to have a different robe and/or Boone to be grizzled (no disrespect to those mods) when you can get any one of 3 different - and more comprehensive - NPC mods that are currently available? Maybe yes... maybe no... haha...

 

Some of them offer things that you could probably tweak in GECK in no time in order to make your own combo-mod. Or maybe make a mergedpatch (or whatever). Not sure if those still work with the new version of the game, but I'm throwing it out there.

 

The other thing might simply be that you're pushing your machine a little too hard. Maybe back down your draw distances, lower your AA or ANI, reduce your resolution, etc. What's great for that is NV CONFIGATOR (spelling mistake is correct actually).

 

Good luck!

 

- David

[Dath9]

Hate to say it, but you very likely just have to get rid of at least 25 of those... it's not that a mod may do small things, but that you've got so many mods. Rumor has it that the 'new max' is about 75.

 

One of the 'new' big problems is 'small mods', I guess.

 

I'd suggest doing away with as many 'small mods' as you can in order to get your mod-list as low as you can...

 

For instance... and I'll do this with "my" mods so as to not be accused of playing favorites, but get rid of ELECTRO-CITY : DARKER NIGHTS and get rid of UWRL. Instead, use NEVADA SKIES - URWLIFIED which contains a NIGHT DARKENER. Also, kill DUSTY DISTANCE (won't work with NSKIES).

 

You probably are running up against some other conflicts as I see a mishmash of mods that all seem to do similar things... for instance, ARWEN's + XFO + MODIFIED COMBAT VALUES all deal with the same stuff. Pick one.

 

And I'm sure if you dig around you'll find mods that your don't REALLY need. I can't make these decisions for you, 'cause everyone likes to play a different way, but do you REALLY need VERONICA to have a different robe and/or Boone to be grizzled (no disrespect to those mods) when you can get any one of 3 different - and more comprehensive - NPC mods that are currently available? Maybe yes... maybe no... haha...

 

Some of them offer things that you could probably tweak in GECK in no time in order to make your own combo-mod. Or maybe make a mergedpatch (or whatever). Not sure if those still work with the new version of the game, but I'm throwing it out there.

 

The other thing might simply be that you're pushing your machine a little too hard. Maybe back down your draw distances, lower your AA or ANI, reduce your resolution, etc. What's great for that is NV CONFIGATOR (spelling mistake is correct actually).

 

Good luck!

 

- David

 

Does it work if I merge a few smaller mods with FNVEdit as well, say I merge 10 esps into one without getting rid of any of the functions? But yeah, I do realize I might have to cut down a bit.

 

EDIT: I've merged a lot of mods and deleted a couple, and have come to this new load order.

 

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

IWS-Core.esm

Caliber.esm

More Perks.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

MikotoBeauty.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

NSkies - Vanilla Edition.esm

Reload.esp

Rearm.esp

NV Ghouls Revenge - Increased Numbers.esp

NV Ghouls Revenge - Resurrection.esp

Improved Sound FX.esp

Improved Sound FX - Gunshot Distance Tweak.esp

Improved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp

Boone Compilation.esp

VeronicaScribeRobe.esp

CASM.esp

Cass_Redux_Mikoto.esp

Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp

NCR Outpost.esp

Wasteland Defense.esp

ReSort.esp

XFO - 9a - Enemies - AI revamp.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

LFox Improved Regen Implant.esp

More Perks Update.esp

Clanf_NoWeaponsRemove.esp

IWS-Core-Patrols.esp

IWS-Core-Guards.esp

IWS-Core-Civilians.esp

MojaveEnclavePatrols_v1.0.esp

Respawning Containers.esp

HDTshop.esp

NCR Rearmament v1.5.esp

Neckchains.esp

NVLadyoutfit1.esp

Desert Armor.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

Modified Combat Values + Arwen.esp

Realistic Death & Dismemberment Physics.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

Clean Up New Vegas.esp

MikotoBeauty.esp

GunRunnersExpandedV4.1.esp

IncreasedLegionPresence.esp

Zombie Serenade.esp

Perks Have No Skill Requirements.esp

VATS Tweaked.esp

RWD-NVb2-Body Part Damage.esp

More Fiends.esp

NoMainStoryUltimatums.esp

RangerVeteranBeforeEndgame.esp

More Ammo 5x.esp

Hardercore Combat.esp

MoreFollowers + other tweaks.esp

CombatArmor_MarkII.esp

10mmPistol-USPMatch_Replacement_v1.0.esp

NVWillow.esp

 

Total active plugins: 64

Total plugins: 64

 

EDIT2: AGH, it still keeps crashing :(

Edited July 30, 2011 by Dath9

[jnecros]

Hey

 

I have many of these mods and was getting tons of crashes as well

 

I think there is some type of confilct going on with Project Nevada because I disabled it and kept IWS, AWOP, Electro City and Warzones (these are what I call major mods) and my crashes are greatly reduced. I really enjoyed Project Nevada, but I gave FOOK a try this morning and have not encountered any crashes in the last several hours, despite the fact that all other major mods I mentioned are also enabled. So, I'd try to get rid of Project NV and see if it helps. Good luck

[Dath9]

Hey

 

I have many of these mods and was getting tons of crashes as well

 

I think there is some type of confilct going on with Project Nevada because I disabled it and kept IWS, AWOP, Electro City and Warzones (these are what I call major mods) and my crashes are greatly reduced. I really enjoyed Project Nevada, but I gave FOOK a try this morning and have not encountered any crashes in the last several hours, despite the fact that all other major mods I mentioned are also enabled. So, I'd try to get rid of Project NV and see if it helps. Good luck

 

Ok, I'll try that, though Project Nevada is pretty much the most essential of all my mods lol. :confused:

[jnecros]

Hey

 

I have many of these mods and was getting tons of crashes as well

 

I think there is some type of confilct going on with Project Nevada because I disabled it and kept IWS, AWOP, Electro City and Warzones (these are what I call major mods) and my crashes are greatly reduced. I really enjoyed Project Nevada, but I gave FOOK a try this morning and have not encountered any crashes in the last several hours, despite the fact that all other major mods I mentioned are also enabled. So, I'd try to get rid of Project NV and see if it helps. Good luck

 

Ok, I'll try that, though Project Nevada is pretty much the most essential of all my mods lol. :confused:

 

 

I know right? It is really, really good, but I have been playing all day without it and have only crashed once. Who knows if it's just me though, maybe I messed something up, though I've checked the load order, patches, compatibility ect very carefully. Please let me know how things go

 

EDIT: I forgot to ask about textures, if you are doing HD or UHQ type textures, such as OJO Bueno you may need to look into 4 GB loaders for NV, make sure to get a NVSE friendly version. Basicly this allows you to use more memory to play the game with, and it may stop some crashing, expecially graphics load crashes..cheers

Edited July 31, 2011 by jnecros