File Front archiving in progress

[Flanua]

Thanks!

[nurmi90]

My forum account just says "Sorry, you don't have permission for that!" and I cant access anywhere, not even my own account whats logged in.

 

My email is getting old subscription messages what I'd like to just unsubscribe ..help. :D

[barnardm71]

In response to post #39384620. #39390810, #39439100, #39440610 are all replies on the same post.

jeyjs wrote: but i thought that without the mod authors permission, thats stealing according to nexus rules. dose that mean the rules have changed and we can take mods that are abandoned without asking the no longer around original author first? like take the mod, fix its issues, bugs and add features to keep the mod alive if we give credit to the original author?.

Xephyr117 wrote: Well s#*!. You're right.

Zaldiir wrote: No. This was about preservation of mods. Without this effort, those mods would possibly be lost forever. And that is something different entirely.

Craddle wrote: He may refer to the notice at the bottom of each archived mod "If you wish to claim this file as your own [..]".

Without violating the respective copyrights (whatever applies here) only the original author will be able to do that (unless explicitly stated otherwise). I'm wondering however, how the nexusstaff plans to ensure that he or she is the original author if someone tries to claim a mod.

Don't be a douche...

[tekmage]

I applaud you for what you are doing as I have fond memories of Unreal Tournament with DC character mods in LAN party deathmatches.

[koriandersES]

In response to post #39384620. #39390810, #39439100, #39440610, #39616270 are all replies on the same post.

jeyjs wrote: but i thought that without the mod authors permission, thats stealing according to nexus rules. dose that mean the rules have changed and we can take mods that are abandoned without asking the no longer around original author first? like take the mod, fix its issues, bugs and add features to keep the mod alive if we give credit to the original author?.

Xephyr117 wrote: Well s#*!. You're right.

Zaldiir wrote: No. This was about preservation of mods. Without this effort, those mods would possibly be lost forever. And that is something different entirely.

Craddle wrote: He may refer to the notice at the bottom of each archived mod "If you wish to claim this file as your own [..]".

Without violating the respective copyrights (whatever applies here) only the original author will be able to do that (unless explicitly stated otherwise). I'm wondering however, how the nexusstaff plans to ensure that he or she is the original author if someone tries to claim a mod.

barnardm71 wrote: Don't be a douche...

Stealing an artifact from someone else's home and selling it under your name is theft.

Saving an artifact from certain destruction and putting it in a museum is preservation.

This is kind of like... tomb raiding, which is acceptable for historical and preservatorial purposes in my opinion.

If the mod authors don't want to, for some reason, compromise in the face of armageddon and would rather see their work disappear, I'm sure they can have their mods removed from preservation if they just ask.

[feltrockni]

So does this mean Nexus might get a UT2k4 section?

[phantompally76]

Everything about this stinks. The Nexus is currently on a crusade to thwart mod piracy on consoles.....yet the Nexus is now the largest OFFICIAL repository for pirated mods on the internet. And that's precisely what these are...stolen, pirated mods that have been uploaded without securing permission from the individual mods' authors. Just because you're saving them from oblivion doesn't give you the right to upload them here without the expressed permission of each and every author whose mods you have "preserved". "Act now and ask for forgiveness later" is massively hypocritical when you're currently barking at Bethesda to make decisive action on console piracy.

 

Some of these FileFront authors will certainly be fine with their mods being on this site. But I know for a fact that many are not. Sure, they can contact you to have their mods removed, but the burden shouldn't fall on those mod authors to deal with that any more than Skyrim/FO4 authors should have to file DMCAs with Bethesda.net. You should have contacted them first. Then there is the matter of the thousands of mod authors who may never even know their files are on here at all. Stealing from someone without their knowledge is still stealing.

 

This isn't about saving archaeology from the ravages of time. These files didn't have to be uploaded immediately upon acquisition. You could have very easily archived these files and spent time securing the necessary permissions from the content creators before you uploaded them. But that wouldn't generate any hits or ad revenue for the website, would it?

 

You are delivering a hypocritical mixed message about mod piracy and authors' rights, and it is exceedingly damaging to the credibility of this site and this community. You simply cannot be opposed to mod piracy with one hand while actively engaging in mod piracy on your own website with the other. That is the very definition of hypocrisy.

[Dark0ne]

In response to post #39713565.

phantompally76 wrote: Everything about this stinks. The Nexus is currently on a crusade to thwart mod piracy on consoles.....yet the Nexus is now the largest OFFICIAL repository for pirated mods on the internet. And that's precisely what these are...stolen, pirated mods that have been uploaded without securing permission from the individual mods' authors. Just because you're saving them from oblivion doesn't give you the right to upload them here without the expressed permission of each and every author whose mods you have "preserved". "Act now and ask for forgiveness later" is massively hypocritical when you're currently barking at Bethesda to make decisive action on console piracy.

Some of these FileFront authors will certainly be fine with their mods being on this site. But I know for a fact that many are not. Sure, they can contact you to have their mods removed, but the burden shouldn't fall on those mod authors to deal with that any more than Skyrim/FO4 authors should have to file DMCAs with Bethesda.net. You should have contacted them first. Then there is the matter of the thousands of mod authors who may never even know their files are on here at all. Stealing from someone without their knowledge is still stealing.

This isn't about saving archaeology from the ravages of time. These files didn't have to be uploaded immediately upon acquisition. You could have very easily archived these files and spent time securing the necessary permissions from the content creators before you uploaded them. But that wouldn't generate any hits or ad revenue for the website, would it?

You are delivering a hypocritical mixed message about mod piracy and authors' rights, and it is exceedingly damaging to the credibility of this site and this community. You simply cannot be opposed to mod piracy with one hand while actively engaging in mod piracy on your own website with the other. That is the very definition of hypocrisy.

I respect your opinion being different, but we fundamentally disagree with your interpretation. You've made it clear you won't be swung on this topic, and neither shall we.

Stick to this thread or the other one, but if you continue to cross post your opinion around the various threads currently active then they will be moderated. Edited June 23, 2016 by Dark0ne

[Hoho3d]

In response to post #39465045.

Blademaster1215 wrote: I haven't seen Jedi Academy mods being brought back from the dead yet. I'm hoping that Nexus could work with jkhub in bringing a lot of the filefront JK Academy mods back from the dead.

I second this. These precious memories with JK Academy. <3

[MrAwesome54]

In response to post #39384620. #39390810, #39439100, #39440610, #39616270, #39671975 are all replies on the same post.

jeyjs wrote: but i thought that without the mod authors permission, thats stealing according to nexus rules. dose that mean the rules have changed and we can take mods that are abandoned without asking the no longer around original author first? like take the mod, fix its issues, bugs and add features to keep the mod alive if we give credit to the original author?.

Xephyr117 wrote: Well s#*&#33;. You're right.

Zaldiir wrote: No. This was about preservation of mods. Without this effort, those mods would possibly be lost forever. And that is something different entirely.

Craddle wrote: He may refer to the notice at the bottom of each archived mod "If you wish to claim this file as your own [..]".

Without violating the respective copyrights (whatever applies here) only the original author will be able to do that (unless explicitly stated otherwise). I'm wondering however, how the nexusstaff plans to ensure that he or she is the original author if someone tries to claim a mod.

barnardm71 wrote: Don't be a douche...

koriandersES wrote: Stealing an artifact from someone else's home and selling it under your name is theft.

Saving an artifact from certain destruction and putting it in a museum is preservation.

This is kind of like... tomb raiding, which is acceptable for historical and preservatorial purposes in my opinion.

If the mod authors don't want to, for some reason, compromise in the face of armageddon and would rather see their work disappear, I'm sure they can have their mods removed from preservation if they just ask.

Yup, I agree. I don't think that paleontologists ask the dinosaurs if they could take their bones, hmm? I'm glad Nexus is saving mods for those classic games, it's not like you could find them anywhere else. Most of the mod authors have probably long forgotten their mod even existed, and even if not, if i recall Gamefront wasn't exactly supplied the author's email or anything for contact. Edited June 26, 2016 by MrAwesome54