Load Order Help

[eromanrocks]

Hello everyone, this is my first time posting in these forums after downloading so many files. I'm having an issue with CTD's and wanted to see if they were related to my load order. Loot is not doing that good of a job yet. The most prominent crash i have is when I step out of the Museum of freedom to get the power armor, the game crashes after a few seconds of being outside. Here is my load order:

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1

DLCRobot.esm=1

DLCworkshop01.esm=1

DLCCoast.esm=1

ArmorKeywords.esm=1

Loads.esm=1

NewCalibers.esp=1

SettlementKeywords.esm=1

Homemaker.esm=1

SpringCleaning.esm=1

Snap'n Build.esm=1

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

KSHairdos.esp=1

Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp=1

Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp=1

Lots More Facial Hair.esp=1

MiscHairstyle.esp=1

AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1

LooksMenu.esp=1

CBBE.esp=1

Armorsmith Extended.esp=1

AWKCRPatch-UFO4P.esp=1

UniqueFollowers.esp=1

NPCmerged.esp=1

Armorsmith Automatron.esp=1

Armorsmith Unique Followers One Rings.esp=1

ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp=1

Minutemenoverhaul.esp=1

DLCFixes.esp=1

Toxic Raider Armour.esp=1

Cait.esp=1

Armorsmith Calyps.esp=1

Armorsmith Cat_woman1989.esp=1

Armorsmith Deserter X.esp=1

Armorsmith Eferas.esp=1

ReGrowth V4.esp=1

SettlementContainers_NoRespawn.esp=1

InteriorsEnhanced.esp=1

RebuiltSeriesPrewarHousesFullyRestored_scnr.esp=1

RaiderOverhaul.esp=1

MojaveImports.esp=1

NX Pro - Farm Core.esp=1

Rebuilt_Tenpines.esp=1

CambridgeHome.esp=1

Armorsmith Elianora.esp=1

Armorsmith Ellise.esp=1

Armorsmith Hothtrooper44.esp=1

Armorsmith Kerrigan.esp=1

Armorsmith Kerrigan Color Changer.esp=1

Armorsmith L0rdOfWar.esp=1

Armorsmith Pack It Up.esp=1

Armorsmith Far Harbor.esp=1

JC-Shirt and Jeans.esp=1

Wastelander's Cookbook.esp=1

Scavvers of the Commonwealth.esp=1

NanoArmor.esp=1

PreWarDressSA.esp=1

NukaRadBans.esp=1

TrueReporter.esp=1

ProtoLining.esp=1

Rangergearnew.esp=1

Automatron Protectrons Expanded.esp=1

th1nkEyebot.esp=1

BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp=1

Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp=1

3dscopes-framework.esp=1

556 Combat Rifle.esp=1

AlienAssaultRifle.esp=1

AlienAssaultRifle-NoLegendSpawn.esp=1

autoweapons.esp=1

AutomatronSecuritron.esp=1

ModdableRobotSettlers.esp=1

More Resistant Power Armor - Extended.esp=1

BetterSettlers.esp=1

BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1

BKFT_Outlaw.esp=1

Hoodless Scribe Hat.esp=1

PoliceGlassesStandalone.esp=1

BKFT_Renegade.esp=1

MoreWeaves.esp=1

BetterShishkebab.esp=1

Better Vendor Stalls.esp=1

BrighterSettlementLights.esp=1

Brotherhood of Steel Kit.esp=1

Buildable_PAFrames.esp=1

BetterSettlersCCAPack1.1b.esp=1

Chemist's Cookbook.esp=1

chem redux.esp=1

VIS-PatchChemReduxWeightless.esp=1

[PPE] Chemist's Cookbook + Chem Redux [Patch].esp=1

MojaveImports_NukaColaCherry_ValdacilsItemSortingPatch.esp=1

MojaveImports_ValdacilsItemSortingPatch.esp=1

[PPE] Chemist's Cookbook + Mojave Imports [Patch].esp=1

WCB - ViS Sorting Patch.esp=1

[PPE] Wastelander's Cookbook + Mojave Imports [Patch].esp=1

Cannabis Commonwealth.esp=1

WastelandWoundCare_ValdacilCompatible.esp=1

ColorfulSurvivalIcons.esp=1

Companion Infinite Ammo.esp=1

CraftableAmmo_plus.esp=1

CraftableAmmo.esp=1

Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp=1

Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp=1

RaiderArmorBuffROH.esp=1

Craftable Armor Size.esp=1

DD_CBBE_SLooty_Castle_Innie_Vajayjay_4k_Fix.esp=1

VltCageElevator.esp=1

VltElevatorAIO.esp=1

Depth of Field Removal.esp=1

SettlersRename.esp=1

dD-Enhanced Blood.esp=1

Enhanced Flickering Firelight.esp=1

EveryonesBestFriend.esp=1

AlternateSettlements.esp=1

ValdacilsDynamicHMPlanterHarvest.esp=1

Macs_NEO_Selene.esp=1

Suit_Up.esp=1

Northland.esp=1

NX Pro - Farm Core - Homemaker.esp=1

NX Pro - Farm Core - Spring Cleaning.esp=1

NX Pro - Farm Core - Valdacil's Item Sorting.esp=1

SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp=1

Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp=1

Give Me That Bottle.esp=1

Grasslands - Unhealthy.esp=1

GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp=1

YogHarleyBat.esp=1

Journey.esp=1

LegendaryModification.esp=1

LongerPowerLines3x.esp=1

MacCreadyOutfit.esp=1

MKIIGrenadeStandalone.esp=1

Guard Rug - D3.esp=1

Guard Rug - D6.esp=1

Guard Rug - D1.esp=1

More Where That Came From - Classic.esp=1

Eli_Fixed Dressers.esp=1

Northland Diggers.esp=1

Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp=1

SMC.esp=1

SurvivalTransitionSave.esp=1

Survivalist.esp=1

SurvivalSaving_Holotapes.esp=1

Survivalist GoBag.esp=1

TroublemakerOutfit.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4.esp=1

TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp=1

True Nights v01.esp=1

VIS-LegendaryModification.esp=1

WastelandFashionAccessories.esp=1

WastelandFashion.esp=1

Wasteland Fashion Armorsmith Patch.esp=1

My_Minutemen.esp=1

DD_AIO_I_Hate_You_All.esp=1

SkibsWeaponsMerged-AWKCR+LOADS.esp=1

WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp=1

BetterShackBridges.esp=1

Eli_PlantPots.esp=1

Spotlight - Bigger radius+Shadow.esp=1

Siles - Connectable Electricpoles.esp=1

PowerConnector.esp=1

Locksmith.esp=1

AGCP's Face Details Add-on.esp=1

DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp=1

mk14.esp=1

mk14-awkcr.esp=1

MK14EBR_Apparel.esp=1

Weaponsmith Extended.esp=1

WET.esp=1

LagrieHelmet.esp=1

Crecy.esp=0

DesertEagleSilencer_WSE.esp=1

WO-L96.esp=1

WO-M82.esp=1

M4A1.esp=1

M4A1_Rebalance01.esp=1

The Serenity.esp=1

Crossbow.esp=1

mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp=1

ModularKalash.esp=1

P99.esp=1

Conquest.esp=1

Weaponsmith Extended - DOOM_AddOn.esp=1

Fireaxe.esp=1

TacticalKatana.esp=1

TacticalKatanaAWKCR.esp=1

M14.esp=1

pipeshotty.esp=1

RangerSequoiaCraft.esp=1

Buzz_Axe.esp=1

Scottish Claymore.esp=1

roadflare.esp=1

KidsRocketLauncher.esp=1

KaBarBeckerBK9.esp=1

PitchingMachine.esp=1

Falcon3.esp=1

OWR.esp=1

Journal.esp=1

YogOrenKatana.esp=1

KaBarBeckerBK3.esp=1

Chainsaw.esp=1

MP153.esp=1

JaguarLMG.esp=1

Scavenged NCR Armor.esp=1

WO-ScarH.esp=1

WO-G3.esp=1

AxePack.esp=1

WO-USAS.esp=1

WO-AK47.esp=1

Menace.esp=1

Parang Machete.esp=1

WO-G20.esp=1

Coonan1911.esp=1

Hatchetsf*#@ingRock.esp=1

MAIBATSUMeleeWeapons.esp=1

BowieKnifes.esp=1

BowieKnifesAWKCR.esp=1

Karambit.esp=1

HuntsmanKnife.esp=1

HatchetsAWKCR.esp=1

THSurvivorKnife.esp=1

AxePackAWKCR.esp=1

ASVektor.esp=1

GatlingRifle.esp=1

GatlingRifle-AWKCR.esp=1

GatlingRifle-AWKCR-Loads.esp=1

DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp=1

DD_M79_Launcher_woooot.esp=1

GaussRifleMk2.esp=1

GaussRifleMk2 - AWKCR.esp=1

WestTekTacticalOptics.esp=1

WestTekTacticalOptics-AWKCR.esp=1

Wasteland Ordnance Merged.esp=1

LLPatch.esp=1

The LLPatch.esp file is a leveled list patch i made with xEdit.

I appreciate any help that you can bring me.

[twsatnexus]

i was checking your load order. and when i came to the bottom i already forgot what you had on top.

 

you just have too many mods installed, no wonder you get a ctd. i can tell you, you dont even need the half of it. you have like five hairstyle mods, what do you need that for? im not saying they are the reason for the crashes, its just an example of unnecessary mods. just choose what you really want and uninstall the rest.

 

sometimes less is more. good luck.

[Thaneize]

Collected Mod compatiblity patches tend to cause a CTD (Example: AYou have a mod with a Homemaker, a Alternate Settlements and a SSEx patch, but SSEx is missing = CTD) another issue might be missing textures or two mods that conflict with the same keywords in the settlement menu (For example Homemaker and the old DDProductions Staircases pefore there was a patch)

LOOT can help you with many issues, but not all of them. Anyway, let LOOT create your loadorder and save that loadorder in a text file.
If LOOT desn't help:

- Create a clean save (uninsall all mods, start the game, start a new game or load you earliest autosave in Vault 111, then save that game)

- Install your minimal mod setup, you are willing to play with (max 20 mods/plugins)

- If you CTD, uninstall mod per mod (the last in the load order first) and rerun the game, as long until it works
- If you don't CTD install mod per mod (check the LOOT load order list for the correct install order) until you get a CTD

- If your CTD mod is a texture replacer, have a look what exactly it replaces and consider alternatives, leaving it out or changing it in the install order

- If your CTD mod is something that adds items to the game, it likely has issues with textures or meshes, try checking if all your textures and meshes are correctly installed

- If your CTD mod is a script heavy mod, a keyword mod or a gameplay enhancement mod, try alternatives and place them as early as possible in the load order or get compaitbility patches, also if you install patches for multiple mods, make sure none is missing.

 

I hape that helps you a bit. Always works for me at least.

 

EDIT: After checking your load order two things came to my mind:

You shouls place all the settlement stuff as early as possible in the load order, while retaining their order, also you should put all crafting mods for extra items (elianora, Deserter X) before the armorsmith mods.

Edited June 8, 2016 by Thaneize