Crash On Save game Load within Leyawiin

[Jopo0o]

As the title describes, I have been experiencing issues within Leyawiin/the immediate vicinity outside Leyawiin's walls. I have come to the conclusion that any save loaded with Leyawiin in sight or inside Leyawiin itself is unloadable - immediate CTD. Even in the stable next to leyawiin the save is unloadable. I find this issue confusing because I am able to perfectly function within Leyawiin itself as long as I do not load a save that originated in Leyawiin. If I walk there, do my business, then leave I can function fine. The latest mods I installed were Heart of the Dead and White Tower.

 

 

On further testing I am able to save/load in Leyawiin after starting a new game...

 

Another Update... I think I narrowed my problem down to an OBSE issue:

 

Event Viewer states: "Faulting module path: E:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\obse_1_2_416.dll" after each CTD. I have OBSE 20.6.

 

Okay, so at this point I looked into OBSE.log and for each failed load attempt on my streamline saves, i received "plugin has data in save file but no handler".

 

I was able to recover a 7 streamsaves back (using 15 slots) and COC'd into Leyawiin. After that I saved in a new slot and was able to load into it. I had a feeling it may have had to do with recently changing the number of stream save slots in the ini file so I did not stream save... However afterwards I decided to test it anyways and it works now! Very weird but I think I may have solved my issue (or at least avoided it temporarily, which hopefully is not the case).

Active Mod Files:

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Edited July 31, 2011 by Jopo0o

[MShoap13]

Sounds like your save file is looking for some asset in or around Leyawin that no longer exists. Have you recently uninstalled any mods?

[Jopo0o]

Sounds like your save file is looking for some asset in or around Leyawin that no longer exists. Have you recently uninstalled any mods?

 

 

Yes, that does seem like its the case. I was fooling around with a few body replacers recently but not much has been taken out. I did Uninstall Unholy darkness mod (annoyed there was no instructions for clean uninstall -_-) using wrye bash and then installed it again recently. BTW when I said it was an OBSE problem I did not mean with the program itself but just that it was looking for something that wasnt in the save... so yea... thats where I'm at right now. I just hope that there won't be any other errors that crop up later that has something to do with left over mod data >.>

 

[Jopo0o]

So yet another update if anyone is still interested, I realized there was a problem with the streamsaves becoming corrupted as per OBSE log's message: "plugin has data in save file but no handler".

 

so I... 1.) loaded the earliest save that works

2.) did a CLEAN save (without streamsave feature)

3.) loaded the save immediately after

4.) started stream/regular saves again from there.

 

 

It may be common sense but I thought if anyone struggled like I did with the error message they may want to see how i fixed it. Seemed to solve the problem for me!