cleaning mods

[ShadowTek]

Hi ok here is what I have installed:

 

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5]
01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72] [CRC: 8284D0E6]
02  HorseCombatMaster.esm [CRC: 8B93949F]
03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.7] [CRC: 6AB8F177]
++  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0] [CRC: A2DBC5A4]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp [CRC: 01B694D9]
04  DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977]
05  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.4] [CRC: F6C1D21D]
06  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: 5A11E6F3]
07  AliveWaters.esp [CRC: 0717BF5A]
08  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp [CRC: 47A85077]
09  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp [CRC: FA521F62]
0A  personality_idles3b.esp [CRC: 626A2DF6]
++  Nude Humanlike Spriggan Tweaked.esp [CRC: 466B6649]
0B  AutoEquip.esp [CRC: EDB3AC4F]
0C  DLCHorseArmor.esp [CRC: BAD48E5D]
0D  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: 00F74B09]
0E  DLCOrrery.esp [CRC: 5BC59DB4]
0F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: 9AA76E38]
10  DLCVileLair.esp [CRC: 74D2CA6F]
11  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7] [CRC: 5B9FF91B]
12  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [CRC: CB413740]
13  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: FF57D0F8]
14  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: AF30D21D]
15  DLCSpellTomes.esp [CRC: 312156F8]
++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp [CRC: 2AD879A8]
16  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp [CRC: 15FAD377]
17  Alir'sArmor.esp [CRC: B305F222]
18  Growlfs Animated Hair.esp [CRC: 71C4889C]
19  It's A Wig!.esp [CRC: 869D8B2B]
1A  SG005_DHuntress.esp [CRC: 89734DCF]
1B  StockClothingArmorHGECnormalD.esp [CRC: DB48C04D]
1C  DLCThievesDen.esp [CRC: 05DB8CCC]
1D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10] [CRC: 401934BE]
1E  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: 91615B81]
1F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72] [CRC: EAB6315A]
20  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63] [CRC: F7ADF908]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44] [CRC: 905EBDCE]
21  Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp [CRC: CDF6ADCF]
22  GlenvarCastle.esp [CRC: 718904AC]
23  MolagBalTreasury.esp [CRC: 823C48B7]
24  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp [CRC: 1C17359E]
25  VileLairRebuilt.esp [CRC: EE26E033]
26  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp [CRC: 7048C609]
27  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: AB4DE79A]
28  DLCFrostcrag.esp [CRC: 2A7665FB]
29  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: 5744D6B8]
2A  Knights.esp [CRC: F1F478FA]
2B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2] [CRC: 2F15B12C]
2C  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: 663D97FD]
2D  Castle_Almgard-V2.esp [CRC: 9B5607F4]
2E  Castle_Seaview.esp [CRC: 3FE5B43D]
2F  CSV_Farms.esp [CRC: 153EE1BB]
++  CSV_Farms_Road_Vanilla.esp [CRC: ED68C459]
30  Castle Wolfspike2.esp [CRC: 15063DD8]
++  Real Lava 1.3.esp [CRC: 3B308C4D]
31  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5] [CRC: 04967F21]
++  Sexy Dark Seducer & Golden Saint Armour.esp [CRC: BB7263F2]
32  Vtoy.esp [CRC: B4CC13EE]
33  MidasSpells.esp [CRC: 4E7886BD]
34  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp [CRC: 5726D76C]
35  SeductiveIdles.esp [CRC: 32F0B1EE]
36  zzEstrus.esp [CRC: 69FF9FD1]
37  babehair_EV.esp [CRC: 68266FD8]
38  Cosmetic Compilation.esp [CRC: C1F53CCE]
39  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: FCA499DF]
3A  DemonRace.esp  [Version 2.9.16] [CRC: 81C2D35C]
3B  Beautiful People.esp [CRC: CBA67BB7]
3C  DesuChan's Dolls.esp [CRC: 9A9AFD0D]
3D  DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp [CRC: ED939A57]
3E  Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp [CRC: 36812DC6]
3F  ahtata Ork.esp [CRC: 2C019FB4]
40  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp [CRC: 1DF74540]
41  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52] [CRC: AA29DCA8]
42  Blademan's Better Birthsigns.esp [CRC: D1CF7A3F]
43  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part A.esp [CRC: 03C1871B]
44  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part B.esp [CRC: FCCFF145]
45  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part C.esp [CRC: 74AE3585]
46  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part D.esp [CRC: F4C92445]
47  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part E.esp [CRC: 14222472]
48  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 1.esp [CRC: 2E82CBA7]
49  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 2.esp [CRC: B8EC5A62]
4A  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 3.esp [CRC: DD908703]
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53] [CRC: A066EBDE]
4B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: FE72F210]
4C  A2WitchDress.esp [CRC: A6C23813]
4D  1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp [CRC: 6CEE7941]
4E  thief steal.esp [CRC: 31E47236]
4F  slowfall.esp [CRC: 313D1F65]

 

 

 

BOSS says that almost 1/2 of these mods are dirty.. is tes4 the main construction set? Or is it a player made mod? Also I have crazy eyes (I know this has been asked a billion times I would guess but please have mercy on me) How do I fix this?

 

Also why are all the DLC mods dirty according to BOSS shouldnt they be the cleanest mods as they were made by Bethesda Softworks?

[ShadowTek]

Ok I have learned that Beautiful people causes most of the crazy eyes, after getting rid of that I only have a few races left with crazy eyes, and the demon race now has a black head :( ugg.. this sucks :( I feel like I have to delete oblivion and re install everything :(

[bben46]

Crazy eyes, AKA Googly eyes are the result of 2 or more mods trying to change the way eyes look in the game. Many mods, especially custom race and beauty mods try to control eyes. Find and disable all of your mods that affect beauty or how people look. Then when you have the vanilla eyes back, pick the mod you want.

[ShadowTek]

Thanks, does that mean that we should only use one or two race add mods? or can we use allot? Thanks for your time for answering be, and Im sure you vets have answered this question a million times for people like me :( but thanks all the same :)

 

see my stuff:

 

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5]
01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72] [CRC: 8284D0E6]
02  HorseCombatMaster.esm [CRC: 8B93949F]
03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.7] [CRC: 6AB8F177]
++  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0] [CRC: A2DBC5A4]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp [CRC: 01B694D9]
04  DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977]
05  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.4] [CRC: F6C1D21D]
06  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: 5A11E6F3]
07  AliveWaters.esp [CRC: 0717BF5A]
08  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp [CRC: 47A85077]
09  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp [CRC: FA521F62]
0A  personality_idles3b.esp [CRC: 626A2DF6]
++  Nude Humanlike Spriggan Tweaked.esp [CRC: 466B6649]
0B  AutoEquip.esp [CRC: EDB3AC4F]
0C  DLCHorseArmor.esp [CRC: BAD48E5D]
0D  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: 00F74B09]
0E  DLCOrrery.esp [CRC: 5BC59DB4]
0F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4] [CRC: 9AA76E38]
10  DLCVileLair.esp [CRC: 74D2CA6F]
11  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7] [CRC: 5B9FF91B]
12  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp [CRC: CB413740]
13  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: FF57D0F8]
14  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: AF30D21D]
15  DLCSpellTomes.esp [CRC: 312156F8]
++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp [CRC: 2AD879A8]
16  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp [CRC: 15FAD377]
17  Alir'sArmor.esp [CRC: B305F222]
18  Growlfs Animated Hair.esp [CRC: 71C4889C]
19  It's A Wig!.esp [CRC: 869D8B2B]
1A  SG005_DHuntress.esp [CRC: 89734DCF]
1B  StockClothingArmorHGECnormalD.esp [CRC: DB48C04D]
1C  DLCThievesDen.esp [CRC: 05DB8CCC]
1D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10] [CRC: 401934BE]
1E  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: 91615B81]
1F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72] [CRC: EAB6315A]
20  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63] [CRC: F7ADF908]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44] [CRC: 905EBDCE]
21  Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp [CRC: CDF6ADCF]
22  GlenvarCastle.esp [CRC: 718904AC]
23  MolagBalTreasury.esp [CRC: 823C48B7]
24  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp [CRC: 1C17359E]
25  VileLairRebuilt.esp [CRC: EE26E033]
26  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp [CRC: 7048C609]
27  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6] [CRC: AB4DE79A]
28  DLCFrostcrag.esp [CRC: 2A7665FB]
29  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: 5744D6B8]
2A  Knights.esp [CRC: F1F478FA]
2B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2] [CRC: 2F15B12C]
2C  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: 663D97FD]
2D  Castle_Almgard-V2.esp [CRC: 9B5607F4]
2E  Castle_Seaview.esp [CRC: 3FE5B43D]
2F  CSV_Farms.esp [CRC: 153EE1BB]
++  CSV_Farms_Road_Vanilla.esp [CRC: ED68C459]
30  Castle Wolfspike2.esp [CRC: 15063DD8]
++  Real Lava 1.3.esp [CRC: 3B308C4D]
31  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5] [CRC: 04967F21]
++  Sexy Dark Seducer & Golden Saint Armour.esp [CRC: BB7263F2]
32  Vtoy.esp [CRC: B4CC13EE]
33  MidasSpells.esp [CRC: 4E7886BD]
34  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp [CRC: 5726D76C]
35  SeductiveIdles.esp [CRC: 32F0B1EE]
36  zzEstrus.esp [CRC: 69FF9FD1]
37  babehair_EV.esp [CRC: 68266FD8]
38  Cosmetic Compilation.esp [CRC: C1F53CCE]
39  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: FCA499DF]
3A  DemonRace.esp  [Version 2.9.16] [CRC: F7DF8689]
3B  Beautiful People.esp [CRC: CBA67BB7]
3C  DesuChan's Dolls.esp [CRC: 9A9AFD0D]
3D  DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp [CRC: ED939A57]
3E  Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp [CRC: 36812DC6]
3F  ahtata Ork.esp [CRC: 2C019FB4]
40  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp [CRC: 1DF74540]
41  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52] [CRC: AA29DCA8]
42  Blademan's Better Birthsigns.esp [CRC: D1CF7A3F]
43  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part A.esp [CRC: 03C1871B]
44  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part B.esp [CRC: FCCFF145]
45  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part C.esp [CRC: 74AE3585]
46  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part D.esp [CRC: F4C92445]
47  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part E.esp [CRC: 14222472]
48  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 1.esp [CRC: 2E82CBA7]
49  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 2.esp [CRC: B8EC5A62]
4A  Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 3.esp [CRC: DD908703]
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53] [CRC: A066EBDE]
4B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: FA3BB37B]
4C  A2WitchDress.esp [CRC: A6C23813]
4D  1SB_LethalMajestyOutfit.esp [CRC: 6CEE7941]
4E  thief steal.esp [CRC: 31E47236]
4F  slowfall.esp [CRC: 313D1F65]

 

 

dont suppose from mabey previous skill you can look at my stuff and tell me what to get rid of?

[NocturneNight]

Tes4Edit is a player-made mod that you can download on the nexus site, just search for it. As you may have noticed, BOSS offers a link to a pretty handy guide for how to safely clean your mods, I'd suggest you follow the steps provided there. Personally I don't clean mods because the procedure was alittle too complicated for me, but it's generally a good idea. The way I understand it, it is often not the mod-creator's fault that their mods become dirty because it is often a matter of bugs with the Construction Set that provides these dirty references which would explain why the DLCs are dirty.

 

As for avoiding conflicts, the key is to not add mods that change the same things. Body mods for instance you want to only keep one active at the same time because many of them modify the same files in your Meshes folder. Be wary of any warning messages and make sure you do not overwrite stuff unless you're sure of what you are doing.

[Balakirev]

Thanks, does that mean that we should only use one or two race add mods? or can we use allot?

 

Use as many as you want, as long as 1) you have met all their requirements before running them, and 2) those requirements don't conflict with other mods you're running. Be sure to check out all the readmes.

 

And yes, several of those mods you listed are impressively dirty. Follow TES4Edit's cleaning procedure on them, and you should be fine--but this is entirely separate as an issue from the eyes and head problem, as bben46 pointed out. :)

[David Brasher]

Mod-cleaning with TES4Edit is overrated. Most gamers who are not hard-core mod builders mainly just use it to automatically clean out identical-to-master records. What they don't realize is that identical-to-master records are the very most harmless pieces of mod dirt in existence. The really dangerous mod dirt usually cannot be detected automatically by TES4Edit. To find that stuff, you have to have the skills of a mod builder and closely examine the structure and function of the mods in the CS and TES4Edit. You have to manually read hundreds of lines of entries and be able to figure out what belongs and what does not belong. In the case of certain conflicts, they are practically invisible in TES4Edit, OBMM, and the CS unless you use the programs in a very particular way, but you almost have to have a hunch about exactly what you are looking for before you will use them in that particular way. You basically have to play-test the game before you can detect certain conflicts.

 

So removing identical-to-master records and undeleting and disabling references is a worthy pastime, but it will only get you so far and will not solve a lot of the real problems.

[bben46]

Sometimes you can fix a eye problem by changing the load order of the two mods that conflict. - also, sometimes that can cause more problems than it fixes.