Load order issue?

[Ghoulz]

I don't know what I did, I really didn't do anything. For some reason Oblivion refuses to run when IDKRRR_C_race.esp(Corean race) is active. I threw in a fresh esp and the game still refuses with the esp active. I moved the esp down the load order and still doesn't work.

 

Runs when it's deactivated. It's weird, everything was fine earlier today.

[MShoap13]

When does Oblivion crash? Also, if you're running OBSE check "obse.log" and "obse_loader.log" in your \Oblivion\ directory to see if there are any error messages.

[Ghoulz]

No error messages, and it crashes RIGHT as the game loads. The monitor goes black, going into the game, then it just quits and goes back the the desktop in a blink.

 

Ok, it's not just that. I ticked a new quest mod and it refuses to run with that. It doesn't even require anything but the patch.

Edited August 22, 2011 by Ghoulz

[MShoap13]

Can you post your load order in a spoiler tag and if you're using Wrye Bash what all do you have merged in your Bashed Patch?

 

Also, Have you recently uninstalled any mods? I don't know why, but if I deactivate the Darn UI OMOD in OBMM and then go to run Oblivion it causes a similar crash. Reactivating Darn UI doesn't fix it, the only thing I've found that works is a full reinstall of Oblivion.

[Ghoulz]

I could never get Wyre Bash to work for me. And I removed no mods lately.

 

 

 

Oblivion.esm

CM Partners.esm

Old School Dungeons.esm

IceElfRace.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

X.Races.Comp.esm

Armamentarium.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Mage'sSkyHouse.esp

sprig.esp

More_Shields.esp

AinmhiRace.esp

ALE_Armure_Legere.esp

SetEssentialActors.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

SexyWitchPoses.esp

Cosmetic Compilation - No JPeepers or NPC Changes.esp

Francesco's day lenght rescale 1-12.esp

Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp

Francesco's Optional Files 3.esp

Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp

Francesco's Optional Files 4.esp

Unenchanted Staves.esp

Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp

Ornate Armor - Cheat.esp

tkHairPack01.esp

Pekka_Shields_Heavy.esp

1Demons.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

Nightshade_Armor.esp

More Magicka x7.esp

Sunrise Treehouse.esp

Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

hchouse408.esp

CTAddPose_fujosi.esp

CTAddPose_enfant.esp

Pose Thumbnail Poses 1.1.esp

SexyKunoichi.esp

DATalitha.esp

Beautiful_Women_NiceOnly.esp

Beautiful_Women_DB_Addon.esp

DAJackSparrow.esp

DANecsKarla.esp

Beautiful_Women_NotSoNice_Bonus.esp

EY_Vampirehunter.esp

Nec-Character_Karla.esp

HGEC Crimson Eyecandy White.esp

Diano.esp

ArynnsDemonatrixHGEC.esp

SwordDancer.esp

Queensarmory.esp

ArynnsDrowWitchHGEC.esp

HGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp

Celestiel - EV.esp

Slof's Claws.esp

MHSNfuru.esp

Dancers clothes.esp

Elves Of Lineage II.esp

CTAddPose_Le01.esp

SPB Mercenary Armors.esp

AAbuiesdaqun.esp

Ryk_SorceressArmor.esp

CTAddPose_Le02.esp

Flipflops-9hao.esp

ercGigerBattleclaws_EV.esp

R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp

PMGSPP2.esp

HoarfrostCastle.esp

Underworld Armor.esp

The Topal Vessel.esp

DALineage2Elves.esp

AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp

Kosai's Welkynd Armor.esp

DarkSaintHGEC.esp

GrabLiveNPC_OBSE.esp

AleswellHomeQuest.esp

Ryk_Sandals.esp

Featherwynd - Amazon Priestess.esp

CM Partners Eileen.esp

Water Sword.esp

OblivionMageTowerV1.1.esp

CTAddPose_glock3.esp

Thunderbird Armor.esp

ConduitMagic.esp

GloriousMageDress.esp

CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp

alllll61s Troy's armor single.esp

CompanionResurrect.esp

FSN Equipments.esp

Jjiinx_Enhanced Disease.esp

Blackmarsh_Witch_HGEC_Clothing.esp

Blue and White.esp

AT2 02-Shiki Armor Set.esp

KW-AlliesPlayNicer.esp

CTAddPose_Gaff_02.esp

CTAddPose_Gaff_01.esp

R18PN - Dancer's Dress.esp

SRJspiderDaedra.esp

FB_DC_Holy_Shadow_Buckler.esp

High Heels.esp

Vilverin Haus.esp

AbyssDemon.esp

lotusarmorv1.esp

EM_CompInnsleeping.esp

BlessedMageKnightDress.esp

tkRapiers.esp

CM Partner Haylay.esp

MvCRedwoodEstate.esp

TETE Veleritte.esp

Alir'sArmor.esp

PTMudwater.esp

ExpandedGreetings.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

CM_ayan.esp

CM_Calian.esp

Evil House.esp

R18PN - Der tod Armor.esp

R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

R18PN - Heilige Mutter Armor.esp

EM_RedRoseManor.esp

BaronArmor.esp

Flying Island House.esp

Dancers clothes-LowBodyS.esp

Priestess_of_Dibella_HGEC.esp

Nec-Mystic Dark ElF.esp

ExnemEyeCandy.esp

Xia_Nhary_TwilightAssassin.HGEC1.1Normal.esp

300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp

Enhanced_Hand_to_hand-2329.esp

healer´s_breath-8120.esp

TweakAthleticsNoSpeed.esp

Get Wet.esp

BountyReductionOverTime_standard.esp

FatigueMods.esp

GalerionUnarmoredAcrobatics.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

raise the dead.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC NE.esp

CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp

CM Partners.esp

AranMathi.esp

AlchemistsCave.esp

archfall_house.esp

Nibenay Falls Manor 1.0.esp

OrangeroadCottage.esp

Home_1.1a.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

ShaiyaOutfit.esp

adelina.esp

RH 1.4 [non-MMM] [non-SI] with Grumble Sounds.esp

tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp

AinmhiRace-RensBeautyPackFull.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

House On The Bluff .V2.esp

Magicka Regen x4.esp

L01_HeavyShields.esp

Spell Delete.esp

IshMultipleApparelEnchantments.esp

Rinzei's Gem Staffs.esp

Sin_nightmare.esp

Lem - The Spire of Apparitions.esp

Lem - Celestial Lagoon.esp

SPB Light Armors.esp

Capucine's Aquamer Race - exnem.esp

seducer.esp

An Old School Dungeon.esp

ambreskav02.esp

GizmodianSorceress.esp

DesuChan's Macabre Dancer.esp

tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3.esp

Hentai_ClymoreArmour.esp

Hentai_AthenaArmour.esp

Hentai_CaskerArmor.esp

alllll61-Tiny Demon suit.esp

AC2Gear_HGEC.esp

R18PN - Leere Armor.esp

G&J - Cruentus Veneficum.esp

ActorsInEmotions.esp

sun_night_elves.esp

n_Dywyll_Elves.esp

Dark Raven Elves.esp

Elves Of Lineage II_1.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

EC_BlackDeathWarrRetex.esp

ArcaneWarrior.esp

HGECKoganeHuntressOutfit.esp

MadokaMagicka.esp

Sinbloods_Nightweave_HGEC.esp

MempoF.esp

ShadowWatcher_HGEC_v2_b.esp

SilverPhoenixArmor.esp

UFF Warrior Skin.esp

BraveKnightArmor.esp

Hentai DarkSisterhoodArmor.esp

Lineage 2 Darkelf.esp

X.Races.Comp.esp

Demon Lilith.esp

LittleCarmine.esp

Fingernails For HGEC.esp

alllll61s-Templar armors beta 0.9.esp

HentaiSeraphimArmour.esp

DarkIllusionArmor.esp

pizz_NINJA_outfit.esp

Journeyman_armor.esp

Midlander.esp

IvyArmor_Full.esp

ArynnsDrowQueen2.0.esp

House in armors.esp

FFXIAFrmg.esp

FFXIAFwar.esp

RRHandToHand.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

Arshes_Nei.esp

Gizmodian - Shards of Light.esp

RangerHome01.esp

M_M_TreeHouse.esp

Lem - Sunken Fortress.esp

Whitesquallremodel.esp

ArmamentariumTest.esp

The Kingdom of Shadow test1.esp

MidasSpells.esp

OblivionHouse.esp

tda_Armoury.esp

Cute Lily Armor.esp

ONE PIECE.esp

Arynns-Heavenly-Sword_HGEC-chaste.esp

DC-Armor-Pack.esp

Iron Maiden Set.esp

SteelMaidenArmor.esp

RYA_Princess of Venture.esp

zzSMixed.esp

9sNankaSet.esp

RANs_tL-Yami_angelina.esp

RANs_tL-YAMI.esp

alllll61s Cos Mos V4 beta 0.9.esp

ExnemWarriorBikini.esp

Plate of the Shadow.esp

Reaper's Evil Lair.esp

Ageha Tortured Soul HGEC.esp

Kaleencolors.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp

Vampire Race Reloaded.esp

 

 

 

Is it possible that Oblivion just can't run anymore mods? I don't have a clue why it's doing this now.

 

It has to do something with that. I deactivate GrabLifeNPC_OBSE and activate Geekchan's Hooves, the game runs. It runs the other way around. But it refuses to run when I have both, as if I have 1 mod too many.

Edited August 22, 2011 by Ghoulz

[MShoap13]

Oblivion does have a hard cap of 255 plugins, but including all of your masters (I'm not sure if they count towards the cap or not) your load order comes up to 253 (hooray Notepadd ++) which is strange, but most likely the issue. Without either merging mods or making a Bashed Patch in Wrye Bash there is no way around this cap.

[Ghoulz]

I hope this is just the case. I don't use some things anyway and can always combine races. Heck I combined Vampire Race Reloaded with my Aquamer race so I can tick off that. I can't believe I have that many mods.

 

I'll do some late summer cleaning and see what happens. Hope I don't have a heart-attack before then :psyduck:

[MShoap13]

I'd merge similar mods by their BOSS suggested load order. Like all of Fran's Optional files and that chuck of CM files. TES4Edit makes merging plugins a breeze, just be sure to keep the original plugins in case you run into problems or decide you don't want a particular plugin later on as you can't unmerge them. Keep in mind that BOSS will no longer recognize the merged plugins so they'll have to be sorted by hand. Keeping the original plugins in your \Data folder but not ticked in your load order should help out with that.

 

On the other side of the coin, Wrye Bash's Bashed Patch capability could probably merge over half of your plugins into one in a lot less time, without the hassle of hand sorting or problems with unloading a plugin you may no longer want. The newer installer version of Bash is very easy to setup but there's still the learning curve of actually using it. BOSS's bash tag suggestions help a lot when making your Bashed Patch though.

Edited August 22, 2011 by MShoap13

[Ghoulz]

I cannot break my addiction to adding more armor/clothing. Should I use the experimental version or the previous one of TES4Edit to merge most of em?

[MShoap13]

The experimental has been working fine for me, and it's been out for quite a while so I'd go with it as it's the most recent version.