So, I've finally finished the Main Quest

[Wraithofdoom]

hey guys if you want to just finish the main quest for whatever reason but have done it 10000 times before and dont want to handle those (censured ;)) oblivion gates then type TCL in the console and go flying to the top of the tower everytime :yes: Edited August 29, 2011 by Wraithofdoom

[LeopoldCrank]

hey guys if you want to just finish the main quest for whatever reason but have done it 10000 times before and dont want to handle those (censured ;)) oblivion gates then type TCL in the console and go flying to the top of the tower everytime :yes:

 

Oh don't worry, by the sixth Oblivion gate I was using console. Tearing my eyes out by number three. Is there a less generic Oblivion Gate mod or something, that'd be cool

[RatcatcherOfKvatch]

Sigil Towers:

I actually liked this part of the plot, because closing all those gates trains you for the big time, when you have a ticking clock and need to know what you're doing before you take on the job.

I'm also obsessed with "Fortify Speed" in all its various forms, so by the time I've closed my 4th gate or so I'm running like a greyhound. Plodding through every gate like I did that first one would get really boring.

 

Too short:

Yeah, the main plot was too short. You maybe should've been required to join the Mage's Guild to get Tar-Meena's help, or maybe advance to some rank in either the Fighter's Guild or Arena before the Countess of Bruma trusts you enough to allow the Great Gate to be opened. Oblivion didn't lack for content, so coupling a few of those side-tracks onto the main track might've made sense.

 

Martin the Glory Hound:

I think it's hilarious, just like how Mehrune's Razor is cursed and the real treasure is the Bladeturn Cowl, and who would expect a DLC that you pay money for to have the artifact for which it is named to be cursed? I thought that was so thoroughly unexpected that it was one of the most awesome moments in gaming history! "Wait ... did I just DIE?" Then you figure it out and you're like, "Oh ... I get it!" Then lulz.

Similarly, Martin gets most of the credit when the end finally comes, and you sort of fade from the pages of history. I like irony. People are more likely to recognize you as the Arena Champion than the Champion of Cyrodiil. Just like Mehrune's Razor I think that was a brave choice for the writers and a hilarious thing to experience. Puncturing the player's ego is always a tricky thing to do well.

And seriously, Bruma made a STATUE in your honor. If you want to bask shamelessly in the glow of your own awesomeness you can stare up at it as that

plays in your head. "Look at it, Dennis!"

 

Main Character Starts in Prison:

It's an Elder Scrolls signature, for better or worse, like Vaults in Fallout. Not every Fallout game starts you off in a Vault, but by now it's expected. In the case of the Vault your origin gives you a clean, safe advantage over the irradiated Pip-Boy-less masses, a symbolic womb from which you begin your coming-of-age story. In Elder Scrolls you start at society's bottom rung, symbolized by ragged clothes and a prison cell, with nowhere to go but up.

 

Baurus And Other Martyrs:

I know Mage's Guild isn't "main plot" material, but I actually felt closer to Traven, because there was this moment of doubt when he asks for the Colossal Black Soul Gem (CBSG) when you think, "Might he be massing these artifacts for himself? Might he be Mannimarco in disguise? Perhaps Caranya was a rival he used me to eliminate?" Hiding your misgivings you hand him the CBSG, hoping you're not making a mistake, then with a pained cry Traven sacrifices himself to the gem so that through it he can protect you so you can go on to defeat Mannimarco. "I'm sorry I doubted you," I wished I could've said, but he knew neither of my doubts nor my remorse.

Baurus ... well, he died, too bad.

Martin was a bit too distant for me to get very emotional about his sacrifice.

 

Ratcatcher of Kvatch:

My name is related to the main plot. When I made my second character I wondered what would happen if I played it straight, doing exactly as I was told and running straight for Weynon Priory.

Of course you know that road leads to Kvatch, and to your first taste of Daedric combat ... with STUNTED SCAMPS!

Apparently the entire city was destroyed for want of a ratcatcher ... and so "Ratcatcher of Kvatch" was born.

[Nobody09]

There's tons of things "wrong" with oblivion. The main quest is disappointing. It's biggest problem is scripting though.

First off you can "control" the number of gates that open. When you first bring martin back to cloud ruler the game sets 25 percent chance to open 10 to 25 gates. If you roll that bad you can go back and have it roll more open gates or less open gates. When you finish the attack on the mythic dawn dungeon. The crisis escalates to 50 open gates with a 50 percent chance of one opening when you enter a zone. When you finish paradise the crisis stops and if you've closed 20 gates no more will open. But the game tries to force you into following the script.

Like when you kill the super gate and everyone stands around clapping. If you get even close to martin he'll "scan" your inventory and make your statue in bruma. So you run off go sell, put on what you want your statue to wear and come back and they are still standing around clapping and martin's "follow space" expands tremendously. He'll come up to you and run the script. It's the same thing with paradise. It would be nice to de-escalate the oblivion crisis and finish when you want to. But NOOOO martin wants to go running off to be crowned king RIGHT NOW. So you can do the same trick. Run away from him and you'll come back later to all the blades bowing with swords drawn. LOL.

 

The 2 weeks to get the armor from it thing is rediculous also. Like you're going to keep playing for 2 for weeks. Oblivion just shatters the original daggerfall scheduling and tasking. The original daggerfall you did all the guild quests and got high in the guilds and temples and you were prepared for the main quest. Oblivion if you do all the guild quests you're no better prepared for the main quest than if you just dove in and did it. Honestly. If you want to be a jerk about the main quest. You could level to 12 or 15 and get max stamina speed and pretty good agility. Use a cheat character that can fly or throw on an acrobats amulet, set timescale to 1 and you could blow through main quest so fast that you'd close allies for bruma gates and pretty much nothing else. Making the main quest about as involved as collecting statues for a sour faced high elf. Which I've done. Though I got cranky with the game and wanted to poison apple the count of bravil. I got the 11:30 to 12:18 time window for the tomb. Was finishing up allies for bruma and figured I was rushing too much and I'd just pick a few of them while they were at the dinner table. The count of bravil is one that never leaves room for dinner. And he was my last one I needed. I break in sneak past his bodyguard. Initiate conversation calm him down and his body guard kept putting a bounty on me and having them both run after me. I killed every guard in bravil castle out of frustration. Tried another tact and got them both chasing me. Since I couldn't fast travel. I tried to make them follow me into oblivion gates as they were popping open 2 and 3 for every cell I entered. I don't even remember how I finally got him to talk to me without the whole interrupting my dinner is an act of friggin war thing. But the whole speech thing about how much they appreciate you saving their city followed by let's have a frikkin war over you interrupting me eating my stupid apple in my stupid chair in my stupid room. Ya we appreciate you just don't interrupt my dinner you scumball. I kept trying to get him to chase me outside the "forbidden castle zone" out to where he'd talk without his let me call dog the bounty hunter bodyguard. But everyone inside there like me so much they kept killing him for attacking me.

 

Which is what spoils oblivion. The whole solidifying the data structures of the game makes it rather psychotic. And it's limited responses. Like I'd really like to put the sigil stone to the bravil gate BACK right now and re-open it.

Couple it with the dripping seething rotting hypocricy makes it even more annoying. You spend hours ripping the tops off coffins taking everything inside and to have to listen to the whole speech about how horrible the copious coinpurse guy feels about selling dead peoples clothes.... and how he's going to give you this fantastic ring to assuage his "guilt".

[TheMysteriousTraveler]

We'll, it was a bit disapointing the storyline for oblivion, but it was kind of a unique idea, making someone else the main charecter.

Okay, i'm lying, i hated the idea.

First, took me forever to complete charecter crreation because i couldnt decide between all the crappy hair styles...

 

Moving On,

I go beserk and lop mythic dawns heads off (not litteraly) with an iron longsword and then...

 

Baurus: I'm guessing your an experienced archer! Am i right?

 

I think that whole part with baurie selecting a class for you wasnt very accurate all the time.

Anyways, next i meet Mr. Martin Septim for the first time and i am like "Holy crap, BOROMIR!!!! Hows life in middle earth man? :D"

 

Then, he makes me treck around cyrodiil doing chores.

 

*sigh*

 

And before final battle with daedra, everyone cheers for martin when all he has done was sit in cloud ruler temple and read books all day telling me to "Go fetch meh a great welkynd stone" or "get me my ancestors armor for me will yah? too lazy to get my ass of this chair and fetch it myself!" while i have been working my butt off to save tamriel!

 

Now i hate Sean Bean.

 

Then when fighting the main boss, mankar cameron, i finally recognized his voice...

 

ITS DAH EVIL OLD DUDE FROM GET SMART MOVIE!!!!!!!!!

 

Then i killed him, gave martin amulet of kings (when it should be given to me after all that i have done), then martin turns into a dragon to kill frickin' satan and i say to myself:

 

"I WANT TO BE A DRAGON!"

 

Then martin dies and i say

 

"buh bai spoilt child!"

 

Then martin's voice tells me that i will be the next elder scrolls scribe.

What? thats all i get?!!

 

Then the chancellor ocato gives me martin's armor

 

THEN i am happy...

...Until i realized it sucked.

 

So out of rage, i kill Ocato.

Then i realised he was marked as essential so he cant die.

 

So i commit suicide off dive rock.

 

So thats what i think of the plot! Anyways overall, game is FUN besides its irritating plot...

Edited September 6, 2011 by TheMysteriousTraveler

[Deleted1848331User]

*gets meat shield and bacon bat*

 

Ah, well, Oblivion was the first RPG I played, so... I actually thought the story was good when I played my PS3 :P Not so much now...

[Nobody09]

We'll, it was a bit disapointing the storyline for oblivion, but it was kind of a unique idea, making someone else the main charecter.

Okay, i'm lying, i hated the idea.

Then, he makes me treck around cyrodiil doing chores.

 

*sigh*

 

Now i hate Sean Bean.

 

Then the chancellor ocato gives me martin's armor

 

THEN i am happy...

...Until i realized it sucked.

 

In these games you're basically a mobster enforcer for the king anyway. So giving you armor is like giving the maid a vacuum cleaner.

 

It's ok to hate sean bean. You can sign up to kill him but you got to get in line behind all the cows.

 

 

Is anyone surprised they killed him in games too. Just wait till the music industry Tupac's him.

[TheMysteriousTraveler]

We'll, it was a bit disapointing the storyline for oblivion, but it was kind of a unique idea, making someone else the main charecter.

Okay, i'm lying, i hated the idea.

Then, he makes me treck around cyrodiil doing chores.

 

*sigh*

 

Now i hate Sean Bean.

 

Then the chancellor ocato gives me martin's armor

 

THEN i am happy...

...Until i realized it sucked.

 

In these games you're basically a mobster enforcer for the king anyway. So giving you armor is like giving the maid a vacuum cleaner.

 

It's ok to hate sean bean. You can sign up to kill him but you got to get in line behind all the cows.

 

 

Is anyone surprised they killed him in games too. Just wait till the music industry Tupac's him.

 

Sean didnt die in troy though...

[RatcatcherOfKvatch]

I thought Martin Septim was a good character, convincingly haunted by a troubled past and guilty conscience, a kind of foreknowledge of his doom seeping from his every flint-edged word. That was definitely the best voice-acting of the game.

 

I remembered Mannimarco rolling a lot more "r's" and having a heavy accent when he didn't probably because his voice actor delivers his lines with such characteristic blandness that when he rolled the "r" on maybe 2 words it totally stuck out.

The second time I completed Mage's Guild and he spoke I was thinking, "Where was the thick Transylvanian 'I Am Dracula!' accent I remembered?" It was barely there ... but since I [mis]remembered him hamming it up when he really didn't I think that's a sign he should have.

His voice actor, who voices so many characters they all start to blend together, should have played this one for yuks. Manny was a perfect character for cutting loose and chewing the scenery.

 

So am I alone in liking the main plot? If you guys really like RPG's you've played the role of "Chosen One" about a zillion and fifty times. Why no love for being the Kato, TVTropes' Hypercompetent Sidekick? And it's not like Martin is some kind of useless fop; he shows both intelligence, wisdom, and courage. Plus sacrifice: you do know Martin has to pay for center stage with his life, right?

Anyway everybody knows Kato was way cooler than that other guy was ... the question is not whether he is worthy for us to fill his shoes but whether we are worthy to fill his ...

[TheMysteriousTraveler]

So am I alone in liking the main plot? If you guys really like RPG's you've played the role of "Chosen One" about a zillion and fifty times.

 

I dont want to be "The chosen one", i just want to be the lead charecter!

...Or at least get some credit for being the "right hand man" besides earning terri-bad stats armor and a title...