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Blood&Mud - Bravil is Crashing


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Hello everyone. I'm not sure exactly what the problem is but I installed Blood&Mud and when I'm in Bravil for about an hour or two, (in-game time), Oblivion crashes. If I have my character wait then it crashes immediately. (I am using RAEVWD and Qarl's Texture Pack Blood&Mud but I removed Qarl's and the crashes were still happening.)

 

I used BOSS to sort my mods and there were no warning messages. So I could really use the experts help. :thumbsup:

 

Thank you.

 

Here's my Load Order/Mods:

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]
02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]
03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]
04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]
05  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.1]
06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]
08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]
**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]
0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
0D  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
10  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
**  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
12  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  LoadingScreens.esp
13  LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
**  LoadingScreensSI.esp
14  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]
15  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]
++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]
16  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
17  Better Bell Sounds.esp
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
18  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
19  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
1A  Storms & Sound.esp
1B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]
1C  WindowLightingSystem.esp
1D  Days&Months.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]
1E  FormID Finder4.esp
1F  DLCHorseArmor.esp
20  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
21  DLCOrrery.esp
22  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
23  DLCVileLair.esp
24  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
**  Lair_mobs.esp
25  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
26  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
**  Mehrunes_mobs.esp
27  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]
28  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
29  SellHorses.esp
2A  DLCThievesDen.esp
2B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
**  Thievesden_mobs.esp
2D  Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]
2E  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]
2F  OCC+COBL Luggage Patch.esp
30  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
31  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
32  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
33  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
34  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]
35  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]
++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]
36  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]
37  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
38  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]
39  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
3A  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
3B  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]
41  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]
++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]
42  Trade and Commerce.esp
43  300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp
44  Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp
45  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
46  Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp
47  ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp
48  GlenvarCastle.esp
49  TheElderCouncil.esp
4A  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
4B  za_bankmod.esp
4C  Zira's Battle Horse Shop.esp
4D  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
4E  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
**  Battlehorn_mobs.esp
4F  DLCfrostcrag.esp
**  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
50  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
51  Knights.esp
52  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
53  OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]
54  Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  DLC_MOBS.esp
55  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.51]
56  Blood&Mud.esp
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++  FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
57  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
58  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
59  xulTheHeath.esp
5A  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
5B  XulEntiusGorge.esp
5C  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
5D  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
5E  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
5F  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
60  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
61  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
62  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
63  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
64  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
65  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
66  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
67  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
68  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
69  xulPantherRiver.esp
6A  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
6B  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
6C  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
6D  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.7]
6E  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
6F  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
70  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
71  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
72  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
73  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
74  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
75  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]
76  OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp  [Version 1.1]
77  MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
78  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0]
79  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
7A  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 2.0]
7B  Open Cities Classic.esp  [Version 4.1]
7C  Open Cities Outer Districts.esp  [Version 4.1]
7D  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - OCC B&M.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
7E  OCC-OOO-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]
7F  OCC-ULCH-Patch.esp  [Version 2.2]
++  OCC-COBL-Wells.esp
80  OCC+Cheydinhal Falls Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
81  OC+ULSkingradOutskirts Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
82  BarrowFields-Blood&Mud-Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
83  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
84  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
85  DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
86  Storms & Sound - Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp
87  Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.esp
88  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
89  MidasSpells.esp
8A  OC+Midas Magic Patch.esp
8B  Midas OscuroGems.esp
++  Midas Betterholy.esp
++  Midas Reduced Costs Quarter.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp
++  Midas PowDur2x.esp
++  Midas Eldrich Power 2x.esp
++  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp
8C  Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp
++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]
++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]
8D  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
8E  Dogmeat Companion.esp
8F  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]
90  MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages-Lite.esp
**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
91  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3]
92  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
93  Extended Skingrad Open Cities Complete.esp
94  Extended Chorrol Open Cities.esp
95  Open Cities Classic B&M Additions.esp  [Version 4.1]

 

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Which version of BOSS are you using, and are you connected to the internet to get the latest loadorder masterlist for BOSS?

 

The reason I ask is because I have a number of mods that are the same as yours and my load order is different than yours in places.

 

Have a look:

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm [CRC: D670DD74]
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 47867C56]
02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5b] [CRC: 5D8B0DF9]
03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5b] [CRC: CE811D7B]
04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72] [CRC: 8284D0E6]
05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34] [CRC: C09734F4]
06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 5D909483]
07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7] [CRC: E73357CD]
08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35] [CRC: BCF36F0D]
09  Artifacts.esm [CRC: 679DB0A3]
0A  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.5] [CRC: C1CC0CA4]
**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp [CRC: 3EAE3D44]
0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5] [CRC: 68A05293]
0C  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0] [CRC: 8F16A015]
0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [CRC: C4F8DD5B]
0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [CRC: F9809708]
**  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [CRC: 3CE20AB5]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: A27190A9]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 4547AA1F]
0F  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 60FF114D]
10  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 0C2B2233]
++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3] [CRC: 8198FCB1]
11  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1] [CRC: 1464E3CC]
12  Side's EAX Control.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: 106C3756]
13  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: 544AC04C]
14  IlluminationWithin.esp [CRC: F3BFEC5B]
15  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp [CRC: 88936850]
16  EasySpellRemovalv1.esp [CRC: 198872F5]
17  Streamline 3.1.esp [CRC: 25C25D60]
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp [CRC: 02EC9CA3]
**  Armamentium female.esp [CRC: 13C12334]
18  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72] [CRC: EAB6315A]
19  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp [CRC: DE136AF6]
1A  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 5A017B08]
1B  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a] [CRC: 89745DD9]
1C  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 2AB563E8]
1D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34] [CRC: AD2A2935]
1E  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: A8FC19E3]
++  OOO-DLT_Remover.esp  [Version 1.33] [CRC: C4D121FF]
++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35] [CRC: 0A8CB72D]
1F  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35] [CRC: 74D0F883]
20  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72] [CRC: 23312D99]
++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: BE78E32B]
21  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: E6F0D173]
22  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: AD5EC654]
23  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 1650A744]
++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 4E68061B]
++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 22C0B57E]
++  FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: B359A7AF]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3] [CRC: 5CF5B873]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: ACBB13AD]
++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 5C5585E0]
**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 21EC43A1]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01] [CRC: 7FE9F55D]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35] [CRC: 9330907E]
**  Fransfemale.esp [CRC: 1302B5B2]
++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69] [CRC: 82EE4E0B]
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp [CRC: 761D67A5]
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp [CRC: D71907D9]
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp [CRC: 9F65E062]
24  Artifacts.esp [CRC: 66B9B580]
**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp [CRC: ABCCD7AE]
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: 1FD522A4]
25  GlenvarCastle.esp [CRC: 718904AC]
26  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 93873332]
27  D2k-AutoHarvest.esp [CRC: CBAE229B]
28  Bag of Holding.esp  [Version 1.5.0] [CRC: 132FD19B]
++  DarNified Books for OOO.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: 8F6D348C]
29  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00] [CRC: 6E4F2756]
2A  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: AD221D32]
2B  RealisticForceLow.esp [CRC: 63B900E2]
2C  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp [CRC: 711E59D2]
2D  EnchantmentMastery.esp [CRC: 5D1E2E81]
2E  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.1.2] [CRC: 09E4EE27]
2F  Mighty Magick - Core.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: 73357CCF]
++  Mighty Magick - Skills.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: F7B5668A]
30  Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: 667B7173]
31  Mighty Magick - Side Effects.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: E5FE9132]
++  Mighty Magick - Sigil Stones.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: 4B66E7F2]
32  Mighty Magick - Restore Magicka Potions [OOO].esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: 37E60F70]
33  attack and hide medium v2.1.esp [CRC: D3D2A8E8]
34  nGCD.esp [CRC: D57FC3CA]
35  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp [CRC: 497AAD7E]
++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp [CRC: D80A3E21]
36  DesuChan's Dolls.esp [CRC: 9A9AFD0D]
37  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52] [CRC: AA29DCA8]
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp [CRC: 2FA07B05]
38  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.9.5] [CRC: 040952FD]
39  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.5] [CRC: B5B4F398]
3A  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1] [CRC: 489B15CF]
3B  Better Clocks for Better Cities.esp [CRC: 9876B083]
++  Disable Tutorial Text.esp [CRC: 3F321A0F]
++  Francesco's day lenght rescale 1-16.esp [CRC: 2B3AD7CA]
3C  GW71_Life_Detect.esp [CRC: 2A373F67]
++  LightSpellWhiteDimmer.esp [CRC: 4F1C1CA9]
**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 779D0F82]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3] [CRC: 8565EC88]
3D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 55D14743]
3E  DesuChan's Dolls (Non-SI).esp [CRC: BB475024]
3F  Deadlier Sneaking.esp [CRC: 356384A4]
40  JCTestChest01.esp [CRC: D1552C63]

 

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I'll have a look at your load order. But yes, I'm connected to the internet to get the latest masterlist for BOSS. I've got BOSS 1.8 w/ internet.

 

Edit 1: Just used BOSS again and it updated from 3209 to 3213. So I'm definitely using an updated masterlist.

 

Edit 2: Well this is very peculiar, I just used BOSS yet again and it's giving me three error messages that it did not give me before. I do have FCOM, Blood & Mud, Knight of the Nine DLC and The Welkynd Sword. But BOSS is saying I don't.

 

FCOM_Blood&Mud.espVersion 0.9.9

ERROR: Required FCOM and Blood&Mud.esp

 

FCOM_Knights.espVersion 0.9.9Mb3

ERROR: Required FCOM and DLC 'Knights.esp'

 

FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.espVersion 0.9.9

ERROR: Required FCOM and Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp and Blood&Mud.esp

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This is off topic a little, but what mod is putting in the xul esp's?

 

As for the errors, have you double checked to be sure those mod esp's are still listed as active?

 

Unique Landscapes Compilation. And yes, the mods are still active.

 

I just used BOSS again and there are no errors. BOSS was being updated last night so maybe there was a burp or something and caused those error messages.

 

I'm still experiencing the crashes in Bravil however, and could use some help to sort that out.

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