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You know, I'm not for the war in Iraq either, but are you suggesting that your hoping Saddam's capture will polarize the resistance fighters to kill more American, British, Italian and other coalition soldiers?

 

Now really, do you understand how strange that sounds? Because it seems to me that someone who -does not- want war also -does not- want people to be killed, in any circumstance. My goverment has messed up plenty of times, and it shows, but does that mean my fellow Americans who are in the armed service just to make a living have to die for it? What kind of a person are you?

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I"m sorry if i have offended anybody in this topic, i did not mean to, my wording is just not all that good. I mean not that great, see what i mean.

 

Also no disrespect intended, but i did not say that people should die i somebody said before that this should hopefully stop guerilla attacks, i was jsut saying it did not it just made them madder than before.

 

I apologise once again and finish by saying i do not want war, i do not want death, leave that for the gaming world.

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More to the point, if we just pulled out, there would almost certainly a bloodbath in Iraq itself. I was (and am) strongly against the war but we've made our bed and now we must lie in it until governance can be passed over with at least a chance of peace. The sooner the better IMO but not at the cost of innumerable lives.
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I'm surprised that nobody came out with an, OMG WTF CONSPIRACY thing about his not committing suicide. (And it's not limited to your age group. I've seen people fifty and older going at that.)

 

So, I thought on it, and over breakfast I figured it out.

 

Saddam Hussein is a survivor. He has never given up. This was the spot where, some fourty-four years ago, he swam across the Tigris river while wounded and persuid by the King's forces to escape. This is a spot in the country which he defended against an army nearly ten times the size and twice as advanced back in '91. This is a spot in the country which he defended (read: ran away) while being attacked by an army the same size but about ten times more advanced.

 

To the end, Saddam Hussein was defiant. Would he, on the same spot as him being such a survivalist, dig himself a hole, shoot himself, and effectively do the job for the Americans? Especially when the concept of him being able to spew out propaganda and go as a martyr presents itself? (Hell, if he gets tried by the UN, they don't use the death penalty there. It's a tragedy in some cases. I'm glad they used it at, say, the Nuremberg [sic] trials. But, when he would have committed suicide, that would have been the end of Saddam Hussein. Killed himself, hiding in a hole, out of fear. There's no martyrdom in that.

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You know, I'm not for the war in Iraq either, but are you suggesting that your hoping Saddam's capture will polarize the resistance fighters to kill more American, British, Italian and other coalition soldiers?

 

Now really, do you understand how strange that sounds? Because it seems to me that someone who -does not- want war also -does not- want people to be killed, in any circumstance. My goverment has messed up plenty of times, and it shows, but does that mean my fellow Americans who are in the armed service just to make a living have to die for it? What kind of a person are you?

That is exaclty what I am saying. No nation should interfere with any other nation EVER again unless requested by it's government. The moment you cross your border you can be shot to pieces for all I care. And kill people to make a living, that is just plain sick, and those bastards deserve to die for that.

 

No, this is not because of blatant hatred for the US. If it was any other nation I would say exactly the same.At the moment the US just happens to be the #1 nation in the world that employs terrorism (defentition of terrorism: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons). However the US just seems to thing might makes right.

 

Of course Saddam was a monster, no denying that. However, who helped him get to power? America. Who pushed him to a war with Iran? America. And the Kurds? The Kurds actively supporting Iran and TERRORISTS. We all know what America does with such nations. And where was America when Saddam attacked them and they begged the west for help? No-where to be seen! Saddam has been another American pawn in their filthy games that has finished it's role.

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Buddy, I think you've got some problems if the only way you think a problem should be resolved is through violence.

 

So tell me, at what point do you think the killing should stop? Do those soldiers deserve to die because they're just following orders? If America pulled out of Iraq, do you think acts of terrorism in the States should increase, just to drive the point further that we're an evil nation? Would you want the whole bloody lot of us dead, before you'd ever consider we've had enough?

 

Not all of us support the actions of our goverment. I've -never- felt that this current war in Iraq was justified, but does that mean I'm just hunky-dory about my countrymen being slaughtered? Of course not.

 

And kill people to make a living, that is just plain sick, and those bastards deserve to die for that.

 

I have a friend who happens to be a soldier. A MP in the 63Oth MP Company unit, currently stationed in Germany.

 

Am I to understand that because she couldn't pay her bills, she deserves to die. Because I'm not sure what rock you're living under, but people don't just join the military to kill people. I'm -quite- sure she didn't. Typically it's to pay for college, pay the bills, or to just plain try and do something with your life. You'll learn the skills, of course, but the last time I checked being a soldier doesn't mean you get to shoot people for fifty bucks a head.

 

I never typically outright flame, but you, Shakkara, have some issues.

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i think nations at war should decide them by having there leaders step into the ring and duke it out last one standing wins the war :)

 

leaders are suposed to work for there country and make sacrifices arnt they :)

 

the big cushy ofice fishysticks from secretarys cash and power seems like bush has sacrificed alot to be americas leader

 

 

I say get sadam and bush to don the gloves and go toe to toe

 

if sadam wins he gets to lead again if bush wins he can do whatever the hell it is he is trying to do (i still have no clue why he invaded in the first place preemptive strike from nowhere no weapons of (my favorit hypocricy here america has freedom bringing weapons and iraq suposedly had...) "wepons of mass destruction" they find the leader of the country trying to save his own life by hiding... YEAH looks like he was planing a world wide take over! :)

 

 

reminds me of southpark episode all this where the hunters keep saying "ITS COMIN RIGHT FOR US!!!" then shoot the hell out of a green tree frog or other some such no threatening animal

 

I think world leaders insted of sending there country to do there bidding should do it them damn selves and let everyone else live (give em the gloves put em in the ring personaly i think sadam is in better shape than bush and would have the upper hand but bush as we all know is made of leather and might not tear easaly)

and they could increase the econemy by selling tickets to this event!!!

 

"Tonight on the war channel" bush declares sadams atempted to kill his dad sadam replyed with "well your a poo poo head" so they will duke it out in the ring for who is right and who is a snot bag... tickets 25$

 

well im all outa steem i think the whole war idea was the bigest mistake paraleled only by the childrens crucade... and posibly king Æthelred in 1000 AD

 

also the invention of the inferiority complex

 

hmm did i just rant?!? terably sorry please forgive me. :)

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