Persistent CTD/Freezes and savegame bloat

[Thingamajig]

Sigh.

 

Ok, now where do i start?

 

Ever since the days of oblivion i've suffered with persistent freezing, lockups and general nonesense that, regardless of what i do or try, never, ever goes away.

 

Usually i can reduce the frequency of these problems, but never entirely. I'll often crash at least once every hour, twice or more if i'm unlucky. The only thing thats really helped reduce these problems is enabling the 2GB adress flag on the exe of the title. Which to me indicates that these gamebryo titles have a serious problem managing system resources. Tweaking the fallout.ini has appeared to also have very little impact.

 

Now i keep getting savegame bloat - maybe this is the cause of all my problems, i don't know. But basically, after starting a new game and investing about 3 hours into it, the game shows typical signs of savegame bloat, such as when loading a particular save, the main menu music loops and doesn't stop till i play the radio or enter a new cell. Shortly after this i'll also get freezes.

 

Now i'm just at my wits end, and depending on what response i get i may even just wash my hands of this game (and new vegas and any other future Gamebryo title - looking at you, Skyrim) I've invested stupid amounts of time to sort these issues and i never get anywhere. Right down to load order sorting, to running without mods, to basic reinstall of the game and even windows. (And yes, i run K-Light codec pack)

 

 

Given that most if not all my other games work flawlessly, i havn't no inclination to go out of my way to make a flawed title work anymore. I'm going to try whatever suggestions are given to me here but aside from that, if it gets me nowhere i'm just going to give up.

 

Here's my load order at the moment, running all the necessary compatability patches for the relevant versions of the mods:

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

EVE.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

RZW_SlotMachine.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

StreetLights.esm

Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm

Destruction.esm

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

iHUD.esm

Scenic_Loading_Background.esp

Scenic_Loading_Background_PointofLookoutDLC.esp

Scenic_Loading_Background_OperationAnchorageDLC.esp

Delay ThePitt + Anchorage.esp

DelaySteel.esp

delaypl.esp

delayzeta.esp

EVE.esp

EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

DCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.esp

GalaxyNewsRadio100[M].esp

Attentater's Wasteland Economy.esp

Backpacks_witheffects.esp

CrowdedCities_v2.esp

Moriarty's Saloon Fen chui Mod.esp

Rivet City Merchants With Point Lookout.esp

Gifts4Kids.esp

ChildKiller.esp

Stop Insulting Me Outcasts.esp

TheWanderersHome.esp

Scavenger World - FWE Edition v0.07.esp

Named Wasteland.esp

Weighted Bottlecaps [insane Version].esp

Alternate_Level_Perks_2.esp

Kill and Loot Unconscious Essential NPCs_FOSE.esp

PowerOfTheAtom_FOOKandFWE.esp

NPC Response Expansion.esp

Rude Awakening.esp

Rude Awakening - MMM.esp

Burnification.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

StreetLights - Wasteland.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Anchorage.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - The Pitt.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Broken Steel.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Point Lookout.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Dynamic Sneak Bonus.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Sandstorm.esp

Destruction - Main.esp

Destruction - Main - Statics.esp

Destruction - DLC.esp

Destruction - DLC - Statics.esp

Destruction - CP - Fellout.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Vanilla_NewWeapons.esp

RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp

RH_FWE_Bridge.esp

RH_EVE_Bridge.esp

HelmPOV.esp

Recoil.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

CASM.esp

Merged Patch.esp

 

Total active plugins: 107

Total plugins: 107

 

(If it wasn't for the fact that this game has a fantastic modding community, i'd have dropped this game years ago)

 

And in case anyone thinks my system isn't enough to run the game, i'm running a quad extreme cpu overclocked and watercooled, and completely stable.

 

Appreciate any help given, i hope it helps but i'm not going to hold my breath.

 

Thanks

Edited September 19, 2011 by Thingamajig

[AlfredTetzlaff]

Hi,

I think you are missing an esm, quoting from Xepha's Dynamic Weather:

 

Skingrad24's Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow *MUST* be installed and its ESM activated if you intend to use Dynamic Weather - Rain, your game will CTD otherwise! Pick it up here: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6170 then follow the install instructions in Dynamic Weather - Rain.zip

 

Hope this helps

 

Ah, sorry disregard this Post, you are not using the Rain option. My bad :)

Edited September 21, 2011 by AlfredTetzlaff

[iFSS]

You are missing "Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp" (you need both that and "Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp" from FOIP). You should also look at the load order template on FWE's page (near the bottom): http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2761

 

As to the save game bloat, you could look through all the scripts in the mods that you have installed to see if any are doing stupid things (like using PlaceAtMe without marking references for deletion) - likely suspects are any that place or create new objects or allow you to move things. Or the easier way - start off with a minimal set of mods (say, just FWE, MMM, WMK, EVE, RH_IronSights and Dynamic Weather), check that it doesn't start happening, then slowly add the others til it does, and you have a better idea of which mod causes it.